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jhorton1215
10-03-2011, 03:14 PM
The title might be a little deceptive...

But I'm now calling this time frame for WWE the "Transition Era". The days are that of transitional champions. This year alone, the WWE Championship has changed hands 8 times if you count Punk and Cena as co-Champions. The belts are just constantly jumping around. Good news is, this only includes the Main 2 titles, as the midcard belts have been going pretty steadily. The World Title has changed hands only 5, which is still a lot over 9 months.

Los Conquistador
10-03-2011, 03:33 PM
That was pretty much just a statement

Not a question of opinion

But regardless
Transitional camps isnt bad so long as its credible names up there

zerosystem
10-03-2011, 03:56 PM
The US and IC titles have become almost defunct. These titles (save for this past week) aren't defended all that much anymore, nor are they the subject of storylines. When was the last time there was a legitimate feud over the US belt. I can't remember.

As for the other titles, I think they're changing hands way too much. I think it's being done for two reasons:

1. To give their top guys multiple reigns in a short period of time
2. Unpredictability

However, when unpredictability becomes predictable, then what is the point.

squarecircle
10-03-2011, 04:12 PM
The reason the world title changes hands as often as it does is because:

1. It is needed to build up and push new stars.

2. It's a bad investment to bury any of your stars. So everyone needs to win some and lose some. The guys who make the most money will of course get to win more often then lose.

3. In order to *milk* a storyline for all its worth, you need to make it last as long as possible. The more PPVs you can stretch a storyline over, the more money you can make. So that means, everyone needs to win and lose so that the storyline has life. If the champ always wins, then loser gets pushed to the back and then you'll have to find a new challenger to push for the world titles.

Hence, why CM Punk and Del Rio have run the title from Cena in the last year. Hence, why Christian and Mark Henry won the title from Orton. It allows the story line to be interesting and last long.

AOF666
10-03-2011, 04:33 PM
The reason the world title changes hands as often as it does is because:

1. It is needed to build up and push new stars.

2. It's a bad investment to bury any of your stars. So everyone needs to win some and lose some. The guys who make the most money will of course get to win more often then lose.

3. In order to *milk* a storyline for all its worth, you need to make it last as long as possible. The more PPVs you can stretch a storyline over, the more money you can make. So that means, everyone needs to win and lose so that the storyline has life. If the champ always wins, then loser gets pushed to the back and then you'll have to find a new challenger to push for the world titles.

Hence, why CM Punk and Del Rio have run the title from Cena in the last year. Hence, why Christian and Mark Henry won the title from Orton. It allows the story line to be interesting and last long.

Actually Christian only beat Orton once. Twice if you want to count the six man tag on raw. If they wanted to keep the Christian- Orton feud interesting, they should have had Christian win more matches.

pauadrian
10-03-2011, 04:40 PM
The reason the world title changes hands as often as it does is because:

1. It is needed to build up and push new stars.

2. It's a bad investment to bury any of your stars. So everyone needs to win some and lose some. The guys who make the most money will of course get to win more often then lose.

3. In order to *milk* a storyline for all its worth, you need to make it last as long as possible. The more PPVs you can stretch a storyline over, the more money you can make. So that means, everyone needs to win and lose so that the storyline has life. If the champ always wins, then loser gets pushed to the back and then you'll have to find a new challenger to push for the world titles.

Hence, why CM Punk and Del Rio have run the title from Cena in the last year. Hence, why Christian and Mark Henry won the title from Orton. It allows the story line to be interesting and last long.

i feel you will be loved here

pauadrian
10-03-2011, 04:41 PM
Actually Christian only beat Orton once. Twice if you want to count the six man tag on raw. If they wanted to keep the Christian- Orton feud interesting, they should have had Christian win more matches.

the storyline was to make christian lose lots of times
so he could be a heel jeez man

CrowOfMurders
10-03-2011, 05:35 PM
The reason the world title changes hands as often as it does is because:

1. It is needed to build up and push new stars.

2. It's a bad investment to bury any of your stars. So everyone needs to win some and lose some. The guys who make the most money will of course get to win more often then lose.

3. In order to *milk* a storyline for all its worth, you need to make it last as long as possible. The more PPVs you can stretch a storyline over, the more money you can make. So that means, everyone needs to win and lose so that the storyline has life. If the champ always wins, then loser gets pushed to the back and then you'll have to find a new challenger to push for the world titles.

Hence, why CM Punk and Del Rio have run the title from Cena in the last year. Hence, why Christian and Mark Henry won the title from Orton. It allows the story line to be interesting and last long.

1. How the hell are you building new stars if the champs(Cena and Orton) are burying all their competitors? Miz was the last credibile heel before Del Rio,and Cena made him his b*tch in every match they had. If they were serious about pushing Del Rio,he'd have at the very least,one or two big wins over Cena. Making a heel look convincing won't hurt the Golden boy. Taking the title off Del Rio for Cena to spoon with for 2 weeks was idiotic,it would've made more sense Del Rio to hold it under DQ or interference. Yea if it was the HHH era when he was burying everyone left and right as a dominant heel, it would be interesting because you always want to see who can FINALLY beat the invincible heel. Having a superman face champ is ridiculous and makes the title look like garbage,there's no achievement in winning it because even if a new star does,he'll lose it to Cena the next week/month. Punk was already a star so he doesn't count in your argument either. Henry is in no way a new built up talent. Christian should've just had a nice respectable face run with the belt for two months and then they could've f*cked around with him and made him the whiny b*tch he is now. At the very least smackdown is interesting with Orton actually putting over Henry.
2. Ummm, are you even watching the same WWE as everyone else? All they do is bury stars,sometimes they make them world champion too quick and bury them right after(Swagger/Sheamus) Who the hell besides Cena and Orton aren't buried on a regular basis? Having the "guys who make the most money" win more is exactly the problem and the reasoning for burying stars. It's not just win some and lose some, guys at the HHH,Undertaker,Cena level should be able to win some and lose some without it hurting their credibility or sales. Sure Cena loses an odd match here and there,but he's always Supercena in the big matches,and WWE hasn't found him one single credible competitor. Punk doesn't count,he's Batman to Cena's Superman.
3. The proper way to "milk" a storyline is to actually give it some depth,range,and get fans emotionally invested. Something the WWE hasn't been able to do in years because of their dependence on their "supermen" CM Punk's current storyline was the closest they came to really delivering on a good storyline,but it seems like they've shot their load with that one as well. What's the storyline with Cena winning the title every other month? Cena is superman?Everyone else sucks and cant beat him,especially clean? That's the most idiotic storyline they can shove down our throats.

I still find a heel driven storyline is always the most interesting. In WWE's history,a heel with a title has ALWAYS been gold. HHH,Edge,the biggest storylines worth milking have always had a strong heel at the center. Not a cartoon character marketable to kids.

Y2J___Y2J
10-03-2011, 06:02 PM
This is always the time of year when the belt changes more often than the rest of the year..
As soon as the Rumble comes then you won't see many title changes.. if any until Mania..
It's not that bad of a thing anyway as long as they make the title changes credible

BIGZrudypoo812
10-03-2011, 11:52 PM
the last time there was a big fued over the US title was when Matt Hardy and MVP where fueding for it for a couple of months....i think....maybe not but thats what i remember