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Tommy Thunder
10-21-2011, 10:13 PM
So it's now official. Zack Ryder will be facing Dolph Ziggler at Vengeance for the United States title, meaning that Ziggler will be in 2 matches that night.

Any thoughts?

CGBigMan
10-21-2011, 10:14 PM
wasnt dolph and swagger meant to take on air boom?

EDIT
I only read the 1st half of ure post

Daffy Duck's Finest
10-21-2011, 10:29 PM
I have a feeling us Zach Ryder fans will be disappointed with a short match that Ziggler will dominate for 80% of it :(

The Brown One
10-21-2011, 10:33 PM
They might change it last minute like they change the Raw scripts 10 times before the shows lol. But its a bad idea to showcase a midcarder in two matches in one show. It makes them seem like they don't have anything else worth while to put on.

RampantLion2010
10-21-2011, 11:53 PM
If Ryder loses, we riot!

K2Jelly
10-22-2011, 12:04 AM
I have a feeling that Ziggler will either win or lose his match to Air Boom first and then lose to Ryder with the reason being that he was tired.

CM_Jericho
10-22-2011, 12:12 AM
Ryder needs to win this match... If he doesn't he will be buried.

Tenzach
10-22-2011, 12:16 AM
I'm thinking something like this will happen. Ziggler and Swagger will win the tag titles with help from Vickie then Air Boom gets mad, maybe Mason Ryan comes out too. Then they just beat the hell out of Ziggler and Swagger. Ryder comes out, Ryder wins the US title rather quick and there you go.

Tommy Thunder
10-22-2011, 12:18 AM
I'm thinking something like this will happen. Ziggler and Swagger will win the tag titles with help from Vickie then Air Boom gets mad, maybe Mason Ryan comes out too. Then they just beat the hell out of Ziggler and Swagger. Ryder comes out, Ryder wins the US title rather quick and there you go.

That sounds likely. I then see a good re-match on Raw, with Mason Ryan again attacking Ziggler.

Russo swerve
10-22-2011, 12:18 AM
Ryder needs to win this match... If he doesn't he will be buried.

So if the guy that has beatin ziggler plenty of times and beat swagger in less than a minute loses then hes gettin burried? Lol wow

K2Jelly
10-22-2011, 12:19 AM
So if the guy that has beatin ziggler plenty of times and beat swagger in less than a minute loses then hes gettin burried? Lol wow

Yep. Winning a few high profile matches doesn't mean a thing unless you become a champion while you're still noticed.

Roy
10-22-2011, 01:08 AM
Ryder wins by DQ! My pick.

Russo swerve
10-22-2011, 02:52 AM
Yep. Winning a few high profile matches doesn't mean a thing unless you become a champion while you're still noticed.

Yeeaaa ok........

Tommy Thunder
10-22-2011, 02:55 AM
Yep. Winning a few high profile matches doesn't mean a thing unless you become a champion while you're still noticed.

Tell that to James Storm. Hasn't won a singles match in a few months from what I understand. Next thing you know, he's the TNA WHC.

Russo swerve
10-22-2011, 02:56 AM
Yep. Winning a few high profile matches doesn't mean a thing unless you become a champion while you're still noticed.

And if you are getting pushed that mean u cant loose a match. And if u do loose that means your buried?

ELNIOJR
10-22-2011, 05:07 AM
I think Dolph will still leave Vengeance, a Champion!

Mizfit
10-22-2011, 05:11 AM
I hope Ziggler wins both of his matches, to put him even closer to his break out

Y2Jryder
10-22-2011, 05:53 AM
I like Ziggler, but It doesn't make sense to let him have 2 matches, while there are so many guys on the roster that deserve a spot on the card.

TNA 'The very best'
10-22-2011, 08:42 AM
Ryder vs ziggler open the PPV = Ryder win = swagger ziggler win ttc

Dr. Death
10-22-2011, 10:31 AM
Ryder vs ziggler open the PPV = Ryder win = swagger ziggler win ttc

Or it could go as you suggested except Ryder loses and Swagger/Ziggler lose also. Either way Ziggler still leaves Vengeance as Champion. In the past, superstars that were going to receive major pushes had to wrestle two or more matches at a PPV. But I also agree that there is a lot of talent not being used let alone on the PPV.

The American disaster
10-22-2011, 11:10 AM
I dont really care who wins this match. Im stoked. I love both men and seeing Ryder in a ppv is great. I mean look how far he has come this year and those of you that think if he loses he will get buried your idiots, a title shot at ppv is far from being buried for crap sake. And Ziggles being in two title matches is great too. who cares if takes away from other guys, guess what they are all there to make money its a job so if you can get your self double booked more power to you. just sayin. It s also good to see Ziggles getting noticed more. Hell he was losing on superstars week after week a year ago. Im happy for both men.

wwefan007
10-22-2011, 11:51 AM
i agree but it seems like someone always has to find something to complain about

TNA 'The very best'
10-22-2011, 12:29 PM
Or it could go as you suggested except Ryder loses and Swagger/Ziggler lose also. Either way Ziggler still leaves Vengeance as Champion. In the past, superstars that were going to receive major pushes had to wrestle two or more matches at a PPV. But I also agree that there is a lot of talent not being used let alone on the PPV.

Ryder will walk out champion

Dr. Death
10-22-2011, 01:00 PM
i agree but it seems like someone always has to find something to complain about

And they usually will

Dr. Death
10-22-2011, 01:04 PM
Ryder will walk out champion

That would be decent to see.:) I'm just saying I think Ziggler will walk out as either the US champ or 1/2 the Tag champions.

The American disaster
10-22-2011, 01:13 PM
That would be decent to see.:) I'm just saying I think Ziggler will walk out as either the US champ or 1/2 the Tag champions.
that's what i think too

thetheme
10-22-2011, 01:17 PM
The tag team title match will be first. Swagger and Dolph will lose to Air Boom and Dolph will get powerbombed by Swagger after the match because of some miscommunication thus turning face. Ziggler will be groggy. Ryder comes out and hits the dick ryder front fame-asser and wins the U.S. title. Vickie screams and makes us all go deaf. Have your mute buttons ready for the Vickie screams and the bitching by Cole.

zapphoman
10-22-2011, 01:21 PM
Zach Ryder is too over right now to lose. I hate to say it but I think he is going to get the US Title this Sunday. I do think that Ziggler and Swagger will get the Tag Titles though.

rss3004
10-22-2011, 01:31 PM
Ziggler will loose the US championship and win the tag team championship.

Automatic
10-22-2011, 02:39 PM
Who doesn't want to see Ziggler wrestle 2 times? The guy is a delight to watch.

The Hit Man
10-22-2011, 02:42 PM
I have a bad feeling, Ziggler will come out of Venagance without a Championship. I'm not too bothered about the outcome of the tag match just as long as it's a good match which I'm sure it will be if given time. However, Ryder is not at the level to become US Champion. It's only within the last month he has appeared on Raw regularly so no way should he be winning the gold even if Ziggler has already been in a match. I think a PPV title match is a good way to help build him up but he just shouldn't win it.

jordan1995
10-22-2011, 03:19 PM
just seen the recent episode of true long island story does anyone think that the attacker sounds like the big show ?

Russo swerve
10-22-2011, 03:30 PM
The tag team title match will be first. Swagger and Dolph will lose to Air Boom and Dolph will get powerbombed by Swagger after the match because of some miscommunication thus turning face. Ziggler will be groggy. Ryder comes out and hits the dick ryder front fame-asser and wins the U.S. title. Vickie screams and makes us all go deaf. Have your mute buttons ready for the Vickie screams and the bitching by Cole.


The dick ryder lol too funny

BlazersDozen
10-23-2011, 05:22 AM
I also think Ziggler leaves with nothing. It'd be a good way to continue the storyline with Ryder & could add an interesting swerve to the WWE storyline. Him going from US Champ to Tag champ would be going in the wrong direction for his push & I can see Mason Ryan costing him the US title.

Wouldn't be surprised if this all leads to Punk winning the WWE title soon then Ziggler coming from the group of guys to challenge for it.