kizarny has a point

[ShockMaster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOek4-FC4ak&feature=youtube_gdata_player

But where was the turkey comment made? On WWE's site?

[ShockMaster]

I hate posting from my phone...it never properly embeds...

[Asherdelampyr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOek4-FC4ak&feature=youtube_gdata_player

But where was the turkey comment made? On WWE's site?
I never thought I would see anyone say that Kizarny has a point about anything
honestly, I thought he was dead.

also, here is the article in question
http://www.wwe.com/inside/wwefeaturepage/turkeys-in-the-ring

[THEKEVINBRAND]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOek4-FC4ak&feature=youtube_gdata_player

But where was the turkey comment made? On WWE's site?

where's your link?

[ShockMaster]

I never thought I would see anyone say that Kizarny has a point about anything
honestly, I thought he was dead.

also, here is the article in question
http://www.wwe.com/inside/wwefeaturepage/turkeys-in-the-ring

ahaha that was good.

[Asherdelampyr]

from the article

something wretched this way comes. Looking to ruffle the feathers of the WWE Universe in 2009, the bizarre circus freak known as Kizarny strolled into town with his unorthodox look and "carny" way of speaking. Within two months, he was gone. Like the circus itself, this clown was fun for one night. After that, he was as nauseating as riding the tilt-a-whirl with a bellyful of corndogs

He was ranked 3rd, also on the list? Michael Cole, Vince's golden boy
After watching the video, the guy comes off as a whiny little bitch. Seriously, he was released because he couldn't draw money with a crayon and a bunch of construction paper.

[ShockMaster]

where's your link?

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fw atch%3Fv%3DgOek4-FC4ak%26feature%3Dyoutube_gdata_player&feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=gOek4-FC4ak&gl=US

This better? Sorry I'm posting mobile.

[THEKEVINBRAND]

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fw atch%3Fv%3DgOek4-FC4ak%26feature%3Dyoutube_gdata_player&feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=gOek4-FC4ak&gl=US

This better? Sorry I'm posting mobile.

nope still nothing, post it when you get to a computer it's better off

[Asherdelampyr]

nope still nothing, post it when you get to a computer it's better off

it's also on the main page.
link works for me

[ShockMaster]

It's on the main page so if anyone with access to a better link or embed tool wants to post it feel free.

[Asherdelampyr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOek4-FC4ak&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I'm a helper!

[Reichwulf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOek4-FC4ak&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I'm a helper!

That video actually kinda ticked me off, as it shows the wwe doesn't care about their "ex" talent as much as they should, hes right theres a ton of smaller promotions talent can go to, but having your dreams ripped away from you can really screw a guy up. Rehab is one thing, but the wwe really should look into other opinions for talent in general.

[Asherdelampyr]

That video actually kinda ticked me off, as it shows the wwe doesn't care about their "ex" talent as much as they should, hes right theres a ton of smaller promotions talent can go to, but having your dreams ripped away from you can really screw a guy up. Rehab is one thing, but the wwe really should look into other opinions for talent in general.

I see what you're saying, but let's put this into perspective. He didn't put a video up because he was depressed and felt like WWE didn't take care of their guys enough, he didn't put it up because his friend took himself out, he put it up because he was upset at being called a "turkey"

that's it, he's upset because his gimmick was ranked #3 in a list of 7 "turkeys". And, to be honest, his gimmick sucked. Also, nobody else on that list, including people who are still with WWE has made any complaint about it, because they all understood that it was written in jest. This isn't some way for the higher-ups in WWE to "get back at him" or whatever, this was a holiday-themed list put together by a man who makes articles for a living.

I am sure if he was asked (the writer) he would say that he hadn't meant to upset anyone, or cause a problem, and seriously, the article in question is really tame. Perhaps not well written, but it never actually gets around to saying anything bad about the guy. Just that his gimmick sucked (which, as previously established, it totally did)

[ShockMaster]

I see what you're saying, but let's put this into perspective. He didn't put a video up because he was depressed and felt like WWE didn't take care of their guys enough, he didn't put it up because his friend took himself out, he put it up because he was upset at being called a "turkey"

that's it, he's upset because his gimmick was ranked #3 in a list of 7 "turkeys". And, to be honest, his gimmick sucked. Also, nobody else on that list, including people who are still with WWE has made any complaint about it, because they all understood that it was written in jest. This isn't some way for the higher-ups in WWE to "get back at him" or whatever, this was a holiday-themed list put together by a man who makes articles for a living.

I am sure if he was asked (the writer) he would say that he hadn't meant to upset anyone, or cause a problem, and seriously, the article in question is really tame. Perhaps not well written, but it never actually gets around to saying anything bad about the guy. Just that his gimmick sucked (which, as previously established, it totally did)

Yeah exactly if you look at it from both sides of the coin you can pretty much see it was just bad timing. Neither side is wrong or right fully but if I had to lean on one side i'd choose kizarny. I just hate Johnny ace lol.

[Asherdelampyr]

Yeah exactly if you look at it from both sides of the coin you can pretty much see it was just bad timing. Neither side is wrong or right fully but if I had to lean on one side i'd choose kizarny. I just hate Johnny ace lol.

I think he is being an over-dramatic whiny-ass crybaby over nothing, less than 2 minutes in he already has to pull in a completely different subject because he realizes that he doesn't have a legitimate complaint. He didn't Move out of Florida, he moved to Vegas to pursue his new career choice, which is fine, but he can't now try to claim that it was just to get away from wrestling.

The sad part is, I actually agree with the idea that WWE should offer psychological assistance like they do drug rehab, but that one good point is buried under 8 minutes of him whining about people saying bad things about his gimmick on the internet.

[VanHooliganX]

WWE can be such douches sometimes.

[monctonvike]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOek4-FC4ak&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I'm a helper!

thanks for the vid!!!!!!! and as far as the things he is saying I have never payed much attention to or had a strong opinion about him. After seeing that I have gained some respect for him. He seems legit pissed I can get why

[VanHooliganX]

thanks for the vid!!!!!!! and as far as the things he is saying I have never payed much attention to or had a strong opinion about him. After seeing that I have gained some respect for him. He seems legit pissed I can get why

Agreed.
Another excuse to hate Johnny Ace some more.

[Kincaid]

Shouldn't this thread be "Kizarny has a pizoint?" lol. I agree with him on some things, others no. YES it sucks that WWE doesn't provide counseling. On the other hand, MAN UP. You were given a crap gimmick.

[THEKEVINBRAND]

Here's a link to an mp3 to Vito's reaction (http://a6.video3.blip.tv/0390000012087/Gerweck-VitoCommentsOnWWECallingHimATurkey638.mp3?brs=175&bri=6.5)

[Lowki]

I think he is being an over-dramatic whiny-ass crybaby over nothing, less than 2 minutes in he already has to pull in a completely different subject because he realizes that he doesn't have a legitimate complaint. He didn't Move out of Florida, he moved to Vegas to pursue his new career choice, which is fine, but he can't now try to claim that it was just to get away from wrestling.

The sad part is, I actually agree with the idea that WWE should offer psychological assistance like they do drug rehab, but that one good point is buried under 8 minutes of him whining about people saying bad things about his gimmick on the internet.
If you listened he states he went to vegas to focus on his sideshow, magic AND his wrestling. He got away from the politics of wrestling (WWE in other words). He does have a legitimate complaint; they are calling a guy who had one match a turkey. How can you say a guy who wrestled once on TV can't draw?