Do you think the WWE should bring back the Hardcore championship?

[TheDevilsAdvocate]

We all remember the days of Crash, etc who held the title. It was entertaining to see, and the picture that the WWE painted for that title was that ANYONE could win it. It was truly a fun title to carry around, and seeing those hilarious segments where you see Bradshaw knocked out, and then pinned by Lilian, or Mae Young, or Crash being attacked at a Chucky-E cheese looking place while crawling through a ball pin, and so an so. But what I think should happen is that they should bring this belt back with that same quality, but with a more IC, and USC feel to it. WWE hasn't had hardcore matches in awhile. I know for a fact that they could give off amazing Hardcore matches with Tommy Dreamer Vs. Christian being the main example I'm going to use in this case.



So, What do you guys think?

[Robstar]

I'd love to see the hardcore belt bought back but in the PG era, there is no chance

[jhorton1215]

I think the days of "Hardcore" wrestling in WWE are over.

[Verdammung]

I think bring back the title would allow for some wrestlers to distinguish themselves from others, but really I think it's more important for the WWE to just bring back hardcore matches.

[Northernwolf]

With WWE having the PG rating that they have now it wouldn't make sence to bring it back.

Anytime a drop of blood hits the mat they stop the match and throw a guy in to patch em up then if you are lucky the show will go on.

Five or six years ago it would have been great but now not at all.

[AGEOFFALL]

Doesn't the wwe already have enough comedy matches.

[SilverGhost]

No chance of that happening. As close as WWE can get to hardcore is "Extreme rules".

[Tommy Thunder]

as long as we're PG, never going to happen, but if WWE get rid of the PG rating in the future, it's possible they could bring it back, and i'd welcome that with open arms!

[lucky7pointman]

Sorry pg or not hardcore title could never be back cuz it enough they wrestle over 200 day a yr why bring back hardcore title for more pain and injury

[WF™ - Original Member!]

I liked the Hardcore title when it was first introduced, I thought it was new and fresh (for the WWF) and really credible when guys like Mankind and The Undertaker held it.

The title died a death quickly though when they made the 24/7 rule, a terrible rule change, I'd be happy not to see it again but I'd also be OK with it if they ever did bring it back to life, the only thing I'd hate would be the mundane 24/7 rule

[DirtySteal]

I liked the Hardcore title when it was first introduced, I thought it was new and fresh (for the WWF) and really credible when guys like Mankind and The Undertaker held it.

I agree with this

But I highly doubt we'll see its return. The closest we'll get is maybe a DVD called The History of the Hardcore Title. To be honest, i'd rather not it come back, it would disgrace the history of the belt and just ruin its legacy. WWE PG would turn it into a joke/gimmick.

I'd prefer to see it left alone and just have the good memories to look back on.

[Dierdorf]

greatest match the hardocre title ever had was kane vs big show vs maven and Kane wins the title! that whole match was amazing!!

[mouse]

The only way I can see the Hardcore Title coming back is if they bring in more midgets and give the title to them. That way WWE can keep it PG while still making it funny.

But bringing it back to its former glory? Probably not a chance in the near future.

[SilverGhost]

They should bring it back but the WWE is in the PG era. Brutality isn't in the list for them.

[WF™ - Original Member!]

Why should they bring it back though? it stopped being entertaining long before they retired the division

[AGEOFFALL]

The title was more about comedy matches and skits. every now and then there would be a serious match.

[WF™ - Original Member!]

That's why I didn't like it, the title did more to bury talent than any writer could ever have done, seeing guys 'knocked out' by hotdog buns and such was pretty stupid and got very stale very very fast

[SgtGohan]

no they shouldnt, would never work in the PG era. and there is already enough titles.

[Rangers_Chosen_Hun]

i would love if they did but not in this pg era since no blood and violence has happened in a few years to bringit back plus they gave foley it back in 2003 or something would be greta if they did though i liked the 24/7 thing cold beat anyone at anytime lol

[The Watcher]

I thought that the ECW reunion in TNA would be an ideal opportunity to create a "hardcore" division over there and do something different to WWE. Turns out they're more interested in attempting to be WWE than differentiate themselves from them though.

The Hardcore title was a great little distraction, unfortunately in the era of PG and seperate brands the chances are it'll never return- although hacing a Hardcore title on Raw and a Cruiser-weight title on Smackdown would be a great way to give each show an individual flavour.

[Craigcmufc]

With the WWE pg atm there is little to no chance of that title coming back imo

[WF™ - Original Member!]

People who are quick to just use the PG rating as an excuse should be aware that Monday Night RAW was rated PG when the Hardcore Title was introduced

[krismegaw]

i think it would be a good idea! wwe "in all" needs a total revamp! but tht could be a start! bring back the attitude era!

[Belzova]

i think it would be a good idea! wwe "in all" needs a total revamp! but tht could be a start! bring back the attitude era!

Vince already made it clear that there would not be another Attitude Era. Maybe in time they will become more violent, but even that would just be wishful thinking concisdering Lindas campaign, and the fcc(or whatever it is) that report on the World Wrestling Entertainment's violence, deaths, etc.

[WF™ - Original Member!]

Its easy to say things like "Bring Back the Attitude Era" but its really not that simple, firstly, the Attitude Era for all its good had a helluva lot of crap attached to it as well, on the plus side though the good things have stood the test of time, so for that alone it would be good, however we don't even know if the WWE have the charismatic talent to go back to that kind of program, plus, TNA have went completely in that way and lost viewers, the Attitude Era was a time when Pro Wrestling tapped into the market of the casual and enticed people who didn't normally watch Pro Wrestling, that same market isn't out there anymore, if it was then TNA would have gained viewers over the course of the last eight months.

I'd agree that the WWE as a whole needs re-structuring, however going back 12 years isn't the way to move forward, I've heard of taking a step back to take 2 steps forward but that would be ridiculous, the WWE can still get it right with good basic storylines, look at the Randy Orton/McMahon's & Triple H feud leading into WrestleMania, it was compelling viewing, the same with Shawn Michaels/Chris Jericho, Shawn Michaels/JBL, Shawn Michaels/Undertaker and the whole Batista link with McMahon and the feud with John Cena

The biggest problem with the WWE isn't the PG rating, the Creative, the Bookers or the talent (with generic characters) its plain and simple, the problem with the WWE is Vince McMahon, he has become a complete parody of himself, he was the guy who revolutionised Professional Wrestling in the 80s and who had the balls to put his faith in a lot of young talent in the 90s, yet in the 2000s he has become the man who has sold his soul to be apart of the Hierarchy in America, he is more interested in Celebrity Status than running a Wrestling Promotion, Vince McMahon is more interested in being seen as an Entertainment Producer than a Wrestling Promoter and that unfortunately is the problem with the WWE

[AGEOFFALL]

TNA is a lost cause. And i yearn for the post-invasion - 2005/06 wwe days, compare to what wwe does now.

[RKOViper]

For good hardcore matches we need head-chairshots, and blood. With PG rubbish we won't be getting that, so there is no point to the title being brought back.

[Belzova]

The idea of a good hardcore match is the weapons that are involved inside of it an the two going at it in the ring. Blood is just a bonus. If the Hardcore championship was to ever be resurrected then you should know very well that WWE would jump at the chance to show off the worth of the title the way they did back then because the Hardcore Championship had a specialty. IC an USC as far as I am concerned was just a lower version of the WHC. A tv Rating should have nothing to do with whether it's successful or not. It's about the WWE creative needing to create deeper thought-provoking story lines like how they did with Nexus before letting it crumble back down into the same old crap. Also, if you look at the promos from some of the Wrestlers lately you can obviously tell that the creative is trying to push the envelope as much as they possibly can within the PG-limits.


But if there were to come a day when the pg rating would be dropped would have to be when:


-Linda gives up on her damn campaign.

-John Cena demands a rating change

-TNA iMPACT! rises up an becomes a credible rival to the WWE

[Ruggy]

My opinon (low as it is) is that who would actually fight for it??? They are all in TNA or "retired"... SO basically, no.

[TheDevilsAdvocate]

What are you talking about Ruggy?


An there would be a handful of people that would fight for it like Ziggler, and those other small guys who are cocky an want what they can't have so they turn to chairs, and slippery moves to get the victory. If the Hardcore Championship came back. The creative would have those guys be jumping at the title, and it would give smaller guys a chance to be credible opponents against guys like Khali an 'Taker, and last but not least Kane.

[Ruggy]

Which basically tempts the fate.... Does the WWE have too many people on the books???

[TheDevilsAdvocate]

Do you mean 'books' as in having them study the ways of hardcore? LOL

I'm sorry if I mis-interpeted that my friend.

[*BRET_THM_HART*]

i think WWE will have hard time to sell hardcore now that everything is PG, not mention al of stuff that are banned from being used.

im all for it if the PG era runs out.

[AGEOFFALL]

i think WWE will have hard time to sell hardcore now that everything is PG, not mention al of stuff that are banned from being used.

im all for it if the PG era runs out.

WWE has a hard time selling things nowadays. Ex. PPVS, Events, Wrestlemania, Drew McIntyre, Merchandise (Cena been the exception.)

[PunkIsDead]

If done properly they should but in reality they would ruin "hardcore" such as they have already done and also the title itself and what it represents.

[Rich Cranium]

Nah, leave the Hardcore title in history!

[SilverGhost]

Nah, leave the Hardcore title in history!

Agreed with this.

Another old talk...

[Rich Cranium]

Agreed with this.

Another old talk...

Thing is, I keep seeing topics being unintentionally rehashed like bring the Rock back for example. So, I just thought I'd share some of the oldies.

[SilverGhost]

Thing is, I keep seeing topics being unintentionally rehashed like bring the Rock back for example. So, I just thought I'd share some of the oldies.

Hmm....I like it. There are other golden ones hidden XD

[TheDevilsAdvocate]

You had to bring back this one? Lol.


I had a lot of other good ones.

[SilverGhost]

You had to bring back this one? Lol.


I had a lot of other good ones.

My fave was the "World Heavyweight Championship-Who deserves it?" thread.

I like the idea of bringing in the old ones to keep the convo flow going.

[TheDevilsAdvocate]

My fave was the "World Heavyweight Championship-Who deserves it?" thread.

I like the idea of bringing in the old ones to keep the convo flow going.

I am going to start doing this too. I seen a really good one that I liked. Didn't really take off though.

[SilverGhost]

I am going to start doing this too. I seen a really good one that I liked. Didn't really take off though.

Do it! :) Old convos with new people!