Perfection?

[TheBeardOfZeus]

Yes, a Ziggler thread.

Thoughts? Opinions? He's actually really impressed me, and i think he could be pushed to upper midcard after his IC run.

[Young Guns]

I hope so :D

[SaberToothTigerz]

he impresses me too but like i quoted before on this forum
ziggler is a ladies man in real just like how we see him backstage flirting on vickie's back im amazed they still didnt broke up its only a matter of time before vickie and ziggler are out of hugging and kissing and he will be without his intercontinental championship sooner or later against mvp hopefully to be him since he deserves a push now

[Splattered-Dreams]

He's a great worker, IMO, wouldnt mind seeing him getting a main event push.. lord knows SD! is desperate.. Chris Masters is on the goddamn SS team... CHRIS MASTERS!!!

[Rich Cranium]

Ziggler really impresses me, just look at the match he had against Daniel Bryan. I believe Ziggler was a successful amateur wrestler in college.

[Splattered-Dreams]

Ziggler really impresses me, just look at the match he had against Daniel Bryan. I believe Ziggler was a successful amateur wrestler in college.

Which one? All three matches were great

[Bodom]

Huge fan of Ziggler, but it just seems like the man can't get heat from the crowd

[IrkenInvader]

Face turn?

[TheBeardOfZeus]

True, thats why he's got a mouthpiece in Vickie.

Personally, he should continue with his woman getter gimmick, i couldve worded that better, but have a dreadful attitude towards the way he treats women, then brag about it?

That would certainly gain some heat from my point of view

[IrkenInvader]

True, thats why he's got a mouthpiece in Vickie.

Personally, he should continue with his woman getter gimmick, i couldve worded that better, but have a dreadful attitude towards the way he treats women, then brag about it?

That would certainly gain some heat from my point of view

No, because the majority of WWE's fanbase hasn't hit puberty and doesn't understand why he is supossed to be a heel.
He needs a more PG gimmick.

[TheBeardOfZeus]

No, because the majority of WWE's fanbase hasn't hit puberty and doesn't understand why he is supossed to be a heel.
He needs a more PG gimmick.

Ahh very true my friend, i quite like the disrespect thing though, maybe not just towards women.

[Bodom]

True, thats why he's got a mouthpiece in Vickie.

Personally, he should continue with his woman getter gimmick, i couldve worded that better, but have a dreadful attitude towards the way he treats women, then brag about it?

That would certainly gain some heat from my point of view

Except all the heat is directed to Vickie. Not Ziggler

[Splattered-Dreams]

Kinda off topic, but when King or whoever insults Vickie, its as if they're forgetting who her ex husband is. I've heard her been called "repulsive," among other things.. so close to the anniversary of his death too

[TheBeardOfZeus]

Kinda off topic, but when King or whoever insults Vickie, its as if they're forgetting who her ex husband is. I've heard her been called "repulsive," among other things.. so close to the anniversary of his death too

I think it's supposed to be in character, i'm sure she doesn't take it personally, and i think it's better to promote her to the younger audiences. I think cause we all know who she is, some might get offended mate.

[Bodom]

I think it's supposed to be in character, i'm sure she doesn't take it personally, and i think it's better to promote her to the younger audiences. I think cause we all know who she is, some might get offended mate.

I agree with this. Bet most of the young fans don't even know who Eddie is.

[The Brown One]

the majority of WWE's fanbase hasn't hit puberty

They ought to get Kaitlyn more air time to solve this XD

[SilverGhost]

They ought to get Kaitlyn more air time to solve this XD

7~12 years dude xD

"Eww girls."

[Kashdinero]

Although I respect and like the man's abillities, I just cant see him as a main eventer. He lacks the spark with the fans that is nessisary to break through the glass ceiling. If he were future endeavoured i doubt the majority of the audience would care.

[Kashdinero]

P.S. Kaitlyn getting more air time (skits not wrestling) is win Win WIN (for me)

[SilverGhost]

Although I respect and like the man's abillities, I just cant see him as a main eventer. He lacks the spark with the fans that is nessisary to break through the glass ceiling. If he were future endeavoured i doubt the majority of the audience would care.

I agree with this. He has skill but not enough to burst in the main event scene.

[The Brown One]

P.S. Kaitlyn getting more air time (skits not wrestling) is win Win WIN (for me)

Yup. This guy gets what I'm talking about :)

[Kashdinero]

Yup. This guy gets what I'm talking about :)

This is a thread named perfection after all.

[Splattered-Dreams]

I agree with this. He has skill but not enough to burst in the main event scene.

LOL! Over 50% of the main eventers don't have any "skill".. Ziggler would wipe the flor with them

[Bodom]

LOL! Over 50% of the main eventers don't have any "skill".. Ziggler would wipe the flor with them

I dunno.

Big fan of the guy and he can wrestle like no other, but he just cant seem to get any significant reaction from the crowd. That doesnt really help him.

[Splattered-Dreams]

I dunno.

Big fan of the guy and he can wrestle like no other, but he just cant seem to get any significant reaction from the crowd. That doesnt really help him.

He's given almost no promo time, to be fair to the dude

[Kashdinero]

He's given almost no promo time, to be fair to the dude

Which would be of benefit to him but as he stands now he doesn't cut it. There's a reason he was given Vickie as a manager/mouthpiece. On his own there's just no connection with the audience.... His name (while cool IMO) is quite off putting and his beady little eye's do him no favour's either....

[Bodom]

Which would be of benefit to him but as he stands now he doesn't cut it. There's a reason he was given Vickie as a manager/mouthpiece. On his own there's just no connection with the audience.... His name (while cool IMO) is quite off putting and his beady little eye's do him no favour's either....

Where you'd think being with Vickie would be enough, but during all of his matches, the crowd is usually dead.

[Kashdinero]

Where you'd think being with Vickie would be enough, but during all of his matches, the crowd is usually dead.

Quiet as a church on Sunday's... Except when he's in there with the right opponent (step forward Mr Danielson) which isn't a good sign at all. Bottom line. He lacks the X-factor!!

[Bodom]

Quiet as a church on Sunday's... Except when he's in there with the right opponent (step forward Mr Danielson) which isn't a good sign at all. Bottom line. He lacks the X-factor!!

Which is strange, because I think he does.

[Kashdinero]

Which is strange, because I think he does.

He's one of my favourite's to come out of devolpmental... The Zig Zag suits him as finisher, he applies the sleeper better than most, he has a great look and he sure can wrestle... A true enigma!

[Bodom]

He's one of my favourite's to come out of devolpmental... The Zig Zag suits him as finisher, he applies the sleeper better than most, he has a great look and he sure can wrestle... A true enigma!

I honestly didn't become a fan until he went to Smackdown.

[Kashdinero]

I honestly didn't become a fan until he went to Smackdown.

I caught on after he beat Battista by count out.... I remember being impressed with his athleticism if not his name (which did grow on me eventually)

[Kashdinero]

I honestly didn't become a fan until he went to Smackdown.

I caught on after he beat Battista by count out.... I remember being impressed with his athleticism if not his name (which did grow on mr eventually)

[Bodom]

I caught on after he beat Battista by count out.... I remember being impressed with his athleticism if not his name (which did grow on mr eventually)

Yeah I thought the name sucked at first, but it grew on me.

I remember that Batista match, I was shocked at how much offense he got in.

[Kashdinero]

Yeah I thought the name sucked at first, but it grew on me.

I remember that Batista match, I was shocked at how much offense he got in.

Especially after all the cringe worthy hand shaking and introducing himself.... The offence was quite nifty too!

I do hope he connects better in the future but, as they say "you either got it or you don't"

[The Brown One]

Didn't they base his character on a legendary por*star? Since WWEs PG now I thought they would have changed it. But its a funny name

[Kashdinero]

Didn't they base his character on a legendary por*star? Since WWEs PG now I thought they would have changed it. But its a funny name

I think I thought the same thing when I first heard his name lol

Whoever came up with it probably had the p0Rn star that played by Mark Walberg in Boogie Nights in mind as well!

[The Brown One]

I think I thought the same thing when I first heard his name lol

Whoever came up with it probably had the p0Rn star that played by Mark Walberg in Boogie Nights in mind as well!

I'm surprised this wasn't Russos fault

[Kashdinero]

I'm surprised this wasn't Russos fault

There's a whole heap of dickheads at WWE that could have come up with it.

[xStraightxEdgexSaviorx]

In SVR 2011 Christian calls him "Dolphin," which I thought to be hilarious.

[Tommy Thunder]

Ziggler has really come along way since the days of being shipped off to OVW with the rest of the Spirit Squad in a container by DX!! He's proven to be great in the ring as seen in his matches with Daniel Bryan, and he even had a decent match with Cena (yes, Cena in a decent match!!), and is proving to be a good IC champ. Would be interesting to hear him more on the mic, not sure how he'd hold up without Vickie. But it would be nice to think that he's a future main eventer in the making.

[The Brown One]

Getting match of the year of 2010 shows that hes a main eventer in the making too.