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Iron Ape
11-21-2010, 06:06 PM
Perhaps you heard about the current squabble between Roy Nelson and Roy Jones Jr. over a contract that he signed before competing on a hybrid boxing/MMA card put on by Roy Jones' promotional company. Jones felt so strongly that Nelson and the UFC violated the contract that he took the matter to court.

Unfortunately, the court date is tentatively set for January—January 2012. That's obviously a huge chunk of time that Nelson has been deemed "unable to compete for the UFC."

So what is Roy Nelson turning to, to hopefully make money during his extended break in action? Why, pro wrestling of course.

Whether or not Nelson is completely serious about this WWE cameo, it makes a ton of sense for "Big Country." While the contract situation is not entirely known, it would seem that it would only bar Nelson from competing for other mixed martial arts companies.

The WWE provides a tremendous stage for Nelson to display his over-the-top personality and less-than-stellar physique. Nelson gets paid and the WWE gets a pretty big name to draw viewers, everyone wins.

Now all of this is fine and dandy, but the timing of the lawsuit and Dana White's sudden compliance with the trial is rather alarming. Roy Nelson jumped to the UFC to compete on The Ultimate Fighter: Season 10 during the summer of 2009.

Following the taping of the reality show, he fought at the season finale and knocked-out Brendan Schaub, ran through Stefan Struve at UFC Fight Night 12 and then lost an inspiring decision to Junior Dos Santos at UFC 117 in August.

UFC 117 took place on Aug. 7. The news of the trial began to be reported by most major mixed martial arts on Aug. 2. Unless Roy Jones is just stupendously slow with filing lawsuits, he waited almost a full year and a half to contest the contract signed by Nelson.

Maybe the contract for The Ultimate Fighter didn't break any agreements signed by Jones and Nelson and the first time Nelson actual breached the contract was when he fought Schaub in December. That would still be eight months between the fight and when the trial was reported.

What made Jones finally press legal action? Could the promised title shot to the victor of the Junior Dos Santos/Roy Nelson bout have brought so much attention to the chubby heavyweight that Jones finally figured out he was losing out on a good chunk of income?

Was he just trying to draw media attention away from the already-hyped UFC 117 and towards his minor promotion? Maybe Jones was just lazy or really slow to act. Whatever the reason, something seems to be up.

Let's just say it took Jones a while to get the necessary paperwork to file the suit—the government has always been a pain to deal with. Then how do we explain the actions of Dana White? Once the trial was announced he forged forward with the planned bout of Dos Santos and Nelson.

Nelson lost out on his title shot and was relatively out of sight and mind until his proposed bout with Shane Carwin at UFC 125 came forth. Nelson/Carwin was supposed to add a much needed shot of excitement to a card headlined by Frankie Edgar vs. Gray Maynard, two guys who aren't exactly huge draws.

Then Carwin had to pull out of the fight. The UFC/WEC merged and Jose Aldo, the Brazilian firecracker, was placed as the co-main event to defend his title against Josh Grispi. Suddenly the UFC didn't need Nelson anymore and he was pulled from the card despite multiple fighters campaigning to replace the injured Carwin.

Both Mirko "Cro Cop" and Frank Mir expressed interest in the bout, but the UFC would have none of that. After being pulled from the bout, White announced the pending lawsuit and the fact that Nelson would not be competing on a UFC card until the matter is resolved.

So why the change of heart? Did White finally listen to the suit? Or was Nelson just no longer needed? If the latter is true, than it represents some very shrewd business decisions by the always grating White.

He finally determined that the possible return on backing Nelson and putting him to fight was not worth the headaches from Roy Jones Jr. and the pending trial.

Regardless of the trial, the whole thing reeks of something fishy. From Jones waiting so long to file the suit to White's sudden decree of Nelson not being allowed to fight for the organization. It will be quite interesting to see how everything eventually pans out.

If Nelson is unable to continue fighting for the UFC, than the company has lost a big draw. A guy who wasn't afraid to speak his mind. A guy who had fat people everywhere rejoicing. Maybe White's loss will end up being the WWE's gain.

Roy Nelson vs. The Undertaker in a Hell in the Cell match? Yeah, I'd watch that.
Hahaha. They need to give him a Kenny Powers-like gimmick. It would be comedy gold.

Bodom
11-21-2010, 06:08 PM
Hahaha. They need to give him a Kenny Powers-like gimmick. It would be comedy gold.

It'd be the BEST FUCKING GIMMICK EVER

Rich Cranium
11-21-2010, 06:09 PM
So much for Lesnar-Nelson in the spring. Guess we get to see Lesnar-Mir III. -smh-

Bodom
11-21-2010, 06:11 PM
So much for Lesnar-Nelson in the spring. Guess we get to see Lesnar-Mir III. -smh-

As much as I dislike Mir, I really don't want to see Lesnar kill him again

Iron Ape
11-21-2010, 06:12 PM
It'd be the BEST FUCKING GIMMICK EVER

I mean, they already have the same build and hairstyle. Plus, as much as I like Roy, he does have a bit of an ego. Channeling Kenny Powers wouldn't be too hard for him.

The biggest question is: who would be his Stevie Janowski?

Iron Ape
11-21-2010, 06:12 PM
Oh, yeah. It will be days before Ryan "breaks" this story. Just watch.

Bodom
11-21-2010, 06:51 PM
Oh, yeah. It will be days before Ryan "breaks" this story. Just watch.

Without crediting a source.

Iron Ape
11-21-2010, 07:22 PM
Without crediting a source.

I'm amazed that his "colleagues" have yet to track him down and falcon-punch him in his dick.

Bodom
11-21-2010, 07:27 PM
I'm amazed that his "colleagues" have yet to track him down and falcon-punch him in his dick.

The real reporters don't bother with him.

They see "Ryan Clark" and roll their eyes.

Robstar
11-21-2010, 07:36 PM
See, here's the point you guys are missing. I'm a lazy internetter. If someone like Ryan Clark compiles 'news' from sources here and there for this site, I don't care, in fact it's good because I'm not trawling for news myself. I only have to come here to find it. If he wants to give himself credit for reporting whatever, so what? I really don't care if he 'sourced' it, 'stole' it or blatantly plagarised it. It's no concern of mine.

On topic, I think that the possibilty of getting injured would prevent him from competing in wrestling, or it would cause him to lose his contract because of some clever loophole Dana has devised

Iron Ape
11-21-2010, 07:46 PM
See, here's the point you guys are missing. I'm a lazy internetter. If someone like Ryan Clark compiles 'news' from sources here and there for this site, I don't care, in fact it's good because I'm not trawling for news myself. I only have to come here to find it. If he wants to give himself credit for reporting whatever, so what? I really don't care if he 'sourced' it, 'stole' it or blatantly plagarised it. It's no concern of mine.
I don't have a problem with him compiling the information. I do, however, have a problem with him not giving credit where credit is due. It's especially ignorant considering he's making money off of someone else's hard work. And his audacity to do all of that and then attack the character of others, well, that just puts it over the top.


On topic, I think that the possibilty of getting injured would prevent him from competing in wrestling, or it would cause him to lose his contract because of some clever loophole Dana has devised
Did you read the article? The guy can't compete in MMA indefinitely because of an old contract he has with Roy Jones Jr.'s promotion. Essentially, he has no way to make money. Sports entertainment, however, would allow him to keep putting food on his table, as it wouldn't violate the contract that he's already signed to (as wrestling isn't recognized as a real sport).

Bodom
11-21-2010, 07:52 PM
I don't have a problem with him compiling the information. I do, however, have a problem with him not giving credit where credit is due. It's especially ignorant considering he's making money off of someone else's hard work. And his audacity to do all of that and then attack the character of others, well, that just puts it over the top.


Im going to second this and leave it at that. Im a member to one of the sites Clark steals from constantly and never gives credit to, and actually decent friends with the guy in charge of the site.

jcagosto
11-21-2010, 07:54 PM
I'm surprised Ryan Clark didn't ban you guys like he does with people in the comments section. Never understood the need to acknowledge and get upset about that.

Bodom
11-21-2010, 07:56 PM
I'm surprised Ryan Clark didn't ban you guys like he does with people in the comments section. Never understood the need to acknowledge and get upset about that.

He bans people who comment on the main site?

jcagosto
11-21-2010, 07:58 PM
He bans people who bash him in the comments section below the news.

Iron Ape
11-21-2010, 08:00 PM
I'm surprised Ryan Clark didn't ban you guys like he does with people in the comments section. Never understood the need to acknowledge and get upset about that.

He's really, really insecure. With good reason.

Bodom
11-21-2010, 08:00 PM
News to me. Thought he just deleted them.

Iron Ape
11-21-2010, 08:02 PM
News to me. Thought he just deleted them.

A single comment about the guy will you get you a ban nowadays. He can't handle opinions, despite constantly offering his own. Dude's just funny like that.

Bodom
11-21-2010, 08:09 PM
A single comment about the guy will you get you a ban nowadays. He can't handle opinions, despite constantly offering his own. Dude's just funny like that.

Surprised he didn't delete the comments from that one Kevin Nash article bashing him for blatant plagiarizing

Robstar
11-22-2010, 03:43 AM
I don't have a problem with him compiling the information. I do, however, have a problem with him not giving credit where credit is due. It's especially ignorant considering he's making money off of someone else's hard work. And his audacity to do all of that and then attack the character of others, well, that just puts it over the top.


Did you read the article? The guy can't compete in MMA indefinitely because of an old contract he has with Roy Jones Jr.'s promotion. Essentially, he has no way to make money. Sports entertainment, however, would allow him to keep putting food on his table, as it wouldn't violate the contract that he's already signed to (as wrestling isn't recognized as a real sport).

Yes I read the article. I was just trying to say that the risk of Roy getting injured to the point of it being detrimental to his MMA career, would be enough for Dana to say no. It would be much more in their interest to keep him on some sort of salary.

Robstar
11-22-2010, 03:45 AM
And btw, everyone, the reason Jones Jnr is scrambling for cash is because my boy Danny Green handed him his ass earlier this year!

Iron Ape
11-22-2010, 10:33 AM
Yes I read the article. I was just trying to say that the risk of Roy getting injured to the point of it being detrimental to his MMA career, would be enough for Dana to say no. It would be much more in their interest to keep him on some sort of salary.

I don't think Dana has much of a say in the matter, unfortunately, as a preexisting contract kind of nullifies any arrangement he may have with Nelson.

Robstar
11-22-2010, 01:13 PM
I don't think Dana has much of a say in the matter, unfortunately, as a preexisting contract kind of nullifies any arrangement he may have with Nelson.

Then he's not obligated to offer Nelson anything? That's what he gets for winning TUF? Pretty harsh for Nelson, but tbh, can you really see him going all the way in UFC?

Iron Ape
11-22-2010, 01:55 PM
Then he's not obligated to offer Nelson anything? That's what he gets for winning TUF? Pretty harsh for Nelson, but tbh, can you really see him going all the way in UFC?

Dude, Nelson is the real deal. Did you see his fight with Junior Dos Santos? Sure, he lost the decision, but there aren't too many other heavyweight fighters who could have sustained the punishment that Roy did. Most of those guys would have crumbled from that kind of abuse (here's looking at you, Lesnar). He's every bit as good as all of the other guy's in that division, save for maybe Velasquez. Even then, that's a fight that I would love to see.

Rich Cranium
11-22-2010, 08:14 PM
Looks like Ryan has now reported this on the main news board, Iron Ape. He should have given you due credit! Roy was talking about the Royal Rumble.

Iron Ape
11-22-2010, 08:41 PM
Looks like Ryan has now reported this on the main news board, Iron Ape. He should have given you due credit! Roy was talking about the Royal Rumble.

To be fair, I just got it off of the Bleacher Report. But at least I had the decency to give them credit when I posted the story up. ;)