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xv2010lx
12-25-2010, 07:54 PM
Okay , so this guy has been intercontinental champion since early August after chasing the title for a year . He has had amazing matches and nice feuds with superstars such as John Morrison , Rey Mysterio , Kofi Kingston , Daniel Bryan , and Kaval . He even put two nice lengthy matches with John Cena recently . I honestly think he had the best match this year with Daniel Bryan . In my opinion , it offered and delivered more than Taker Vs. Michaels (This past Mania) . The Intercontinental title is as prestigious than ever . Ziggler's goal is to be the best and based on what I've seen so far , he's well on his way on being on of the greatest . I hope he carries the title through Wrestlemania and successfully wins . The only thing is that I think he needs more time for promos so he can improve his mic skills . There are other superstars cutting promos that aren't really necessary . So what do you guys think about Ziggler ? Would you guys agree he deserves more promos ? He is one of the better young and aggressive superstars WWE has to offer . Thoughts and opinions welcome . (Merry Christmas by the way ! :]) . BOTTOM LINE: What are your top 3 matches featuring Dolph Ziggler ?

Stump
12-25-2010, 09:02 PM
Sorry, the guy bores me. I guess he wrestles well, i just dont have any emotion whatsoever regarding his character. i don't care what he says or does. I dont dislike him, he just doesn't garner any interest.

xStraightxEdgexSaviorx
12-25-2010, 09:12 PM
A merry Christmas to you too!! I defiantly agree that he should get more promo time. I think having Vickie around, while helping him get major heat (although it's more Vickie's heat then Ziggler's heat) I think she's hurting him as far as not letting him be his own man promo wise.

I think there is a slight chance that he may turn babyface against Vickie, as she's been flirting with Ziggler's NXT Rookie (like Ziggler did to Vickie's rookie) and that might lead to a split and even a program between Ziggler and Kaitlin vs Vickie and Jacob Novak, with Dolph/Kaitlin being the face and Vickie/Novak being heels. I think this would be a good move regardless, as I think Ziggler has earned the right to be on his own, and Vickie will help Novak get over. Don't know how good Ziggler will be as a face, but it seems to be the direction their going with him so I guess their confident in him.

I think his three best matches (at least in recent memory) were vs. Cena at RAW, vs. Daniel Bryan at Bragging Rights, and vs. Kofi Kingston (I don't know which PPV it was on, but it was the one that he won clean).

Rich Cranium
12-25-2010, 09:15 PM
He is a fantastic wrestler! This is a dumb question but just curious, is the name Dolph Ziggler a take on Dirk Diggler from Boogie Nights?

Stump
12-25-2010, 09:20 PM
He is a fantastic wrestler! This is a dumb question but just curious, is the name Dolph Ziggler a take on Dirk Diggler from Boogie Nights?

I believe so, yes.

xv2010lx
12-25-2010, 09:28 PM
Dolph Ziggler meets The Rock :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4v38vbGNm8&feature=related

wallyman
12-25-2010, 09:30 PM
Okay , so this guy has been intercontinental champion since early August after chasing the title for a year . He has had amazing matches and nice feuds with superstars such as John Morrison , Rey Mysterio , Kofi Kingston , Daniel Bryan , and Kaval . He even put two nice lengthy matches with John Cena recently . I honestly think he had the best match this year with Daniel Bryan . In my opinion , it offered and delivered more than Taker Vs. Michaels (This past Mania) . The Intercontinental title is as prestigious than ever . Ziggler's goal is to be the best and based on what I've seen so far , he's well on his way on being on of the greatest . I hope he carries the title through Wrestlemania and successfully wins . The only thing is that I think he needs more time for promos so he can improve his mic skills . There are other superstars cutting promos that aren't really necessary . So what do you guys think about Ziggler ? Would you guys agree he deserves more promos ? He is one of the better young and aggressive superstars WWE has to offer . Thoughts and opinions welcome . (Merry Christmas by the way ! :]) . BOTTOM LINE: What are your top 3 matches featuring Dolph Ziggler ?

after seeing ziggles vs cena i have found new restpect for him...he can work and bump...i hope ziggles can elevate himself to main statues soon...as he showed he can work at that level...if they can have the miz as champion this guy who is way better deserves more credit...i wound tmind seeing him at the top i just hope they build it well

xStraightxEdgexSaviorx
12-25-2010, 09:46 PM
after seeing ziggles vs cena i have found new restpect for him...he can work and bump...i hope ziggles can elevate himself to main statues soon...as he showed he can work at that level...if they can have the miz as champion this guy who is way better deserves more credit...i wound tmind seeing him at the top i just hope they build it well

The bolded statement is false. Sure, he's a lot better of an in-ring talent than The Miz, but Miz is more marketable and a much better talker. That'd be like saying Ken Shamrock is way better and more deserving of a title run than the Rock.

xv2010lx
12-25-2010, 10:02 PM
In terms of in ring ability , sure Ziggler is the better wrestler . However , I agree that The Miz is more charismatic and knows how to approach the crowd . Both are in different levels . Remember , we are comparing the WWE champion with the I.C champion . I think Dolph can get to his level one day . Now Dolph Ziggler as a face sounds interesting as long as it serves good to him in the long run . Since it is Christmas , here's a video of Dolph and Santa ! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgA5wWD0vgc&feature=related

Pepsi Plunge
12-25-2010, 10:15 PM
i have always loved dolph ziggler
i think he just needs a few clean wins over top superstars so he could give more credit to himself.
he has got the looks and moves - although i rather him using the sleeper hold to finish his opponents off the zig zag is a below average finisher.
his theme song song is great for him.
a bit of mic work would be great for him though i think hes gotten much better over the last year.
i like him now with vickie to help him garner heat, but after hes established him as one of the top heels i would like to see him with katelyn. i DONT want ziggler to be a face i think heel suits him very well and he should stay heel for atleast another year or 2.
im hoping for a big push for him...

Necroyeti
12-25-2010, 10:25 PM
He is a fantastic wrestler! This is a dumb question but just curious, is the name Dolph Ziggler a take on Dirk Diggler from Boogie Nights?I always thought it was a Dolph Lundgren reference, to be honest, on account of the blonde hair. Could be both, I guess

SilverGhost
12-25-2010, 10:37 PM
I always thought it was a Dolph Lundgren reference, to be honest, on account of the blonde hair. Could be both, I guess

He is a good Mr. Perfect-like character in this time.

(I know I know....Mr. Perfect is irreplaceable and he is PERFECT!)

donthatetheplayer
12-25-2010, 10:50 PM
Okay , so this guy has been intercontinental champion since early August after chasing the title for a year . He has had amazing matches and nice feuds with superstars such as John Morrison , Rey Mysterio , Kofi Kingston , Daniel Bryan , and Kaval . He even put two nice lengthy matches with John Cena recently . I honestly think he had the best match this year with Daniel Bryan . In my opinion , it offered and delivered more than Taker Vs. Michaels (This past Mania) . The Intercontinental title is as prestigious than ever . Ziggler's goal is to be the best and based on what I've seen so far , he's well on his way on being on of the greatest . I hope he carries the title through Wrestlemania and successfully wins . The only thing is that I think he needs more time for promos so he can improve his mic skills . There are other superstars cutting promos that aren't really necessary . So what do you guys think about Ziggler ? Would you guys agree he deserves more promos ? He is one of the better young and aggressive superstars WWE has to offer . Thoughts and opinions welcome . (Merry Christmas by the way ! :]) . BOTTOM LINE: What are your top 3 matches featuring Dolph Ziggler ?

Dolph Ziggler sells like HBK, works well in the ring with anyone, is okay on the mike and I really like his aggression. Am hoping he maybe gets a MITB run or something like that - definitely deserves more of a push but theres still time.

xv2010lx
12-25-2010, 11:22 PM
I totally agree that he can sell the moves just as good as HBK !

Hardik
12-26-2010, 12:22 AM
A merry Christmas to you too!! I defiantly agree that he should get more promo time. I think having Vickie around, while helping him get major heat (although it's more Vickie's heat then Ziggler's heat) I think she's hurting him as far as not letting him be his own man promo wise.

I think there is a slight chance that he may turn babyface against Vickie, as she's been flirting with Ziggler's NXT Rookie (like Ziggler did to Vickie's rookie) and that might lead to a split and even a program between Ziggler and Kaitlin vs Vickie and Jacob Novak, with Dolph/Kaitlin being the face and Vickie/Novak being heels. I think this would be a good move regardless, as I think Ziggler has earned the right to be on his own, and Vickie will help Novak get over. Don't know how good Ziggler will be as a face, but it seems to be the direction their going with him so I guess their confident in him.

I think his three best matches (at least in recent memory) were vs. Cena at RAW, vs. Daniel Bryan at Bragging Rights, and vs. Kofi Kingston (I don't know which PPV it was on, but it was the one that he won clean).

its a good idea of having ziggler/kithlin and vickie/novak fued

johnadah
12-26-2010, 12:36 AM
It's hard to pick three favorite matches, but I can easily pick three favorite opponents: Rey Mysterio Jr., John Morrison and Brian Danielson. Dolph has had excellent matches with each of them. Not to mention the fact that (and I really mean this) Dolph made Cena look good in the ring. He's a very talented guy and I hope he has a long career with WWE.

Bodom
12-26-2010, 12:41 AM
Dolph vs Danielson I
Dolph vs Danielson II
Dolph vs Danielson III

johnadah
12-26-2010, 12:45 AM
Dolph vs Danielson I
Dolph vs Danielson II
Dolph vs Danielson III

That certainly was a treat. Between WWE giving us Ziggler vs Danielson three times in one week and TNA giving us MCMG vs Beer Money five weeks in a row, we at least know each company still has the capacity to do something right once in a while.

Bodom
12-26-2010, 12:49 AM
That certainly was a treat. Between WWE giving us Ziggler vs Danielson three times in one week and TNA giving us MCMG vs Beer Money five weeks in a row, we at least know each company still has the capacity to do something right once in a while.

It can only spell good things for the future when your Cena's and HHH's permanently retire.

SilverGhost
12-26-2010, 12:59 AM
Dolph vs Danielson I
Dolph vs Danielson II
Dolph vs Danielson III

Godly matches. Pure wrestling and entertaining.

xv2010lx
12-26-2010, 01:15 AM
How about Dolph Ziggler Vs. Daniel Bryan IV at Wrestlemania ?

SilverGhost
12-26-2010, 01:16 AM
How about Dolph Ziggler Vs. Daniel Bryan IV at Wrestlemania ?

Title Unification then yes.

xv2010lx
12-26-2010, 01:28 AM
Title Unification or not , I would like to see them face each other at Wrestlemania . Their matches remind me of the legendary feuds between The Rock and Stone Cold . SO DID ANYONE GET ACTION FIGURES ? lol x]

donthatetheplayer
12-26-2010, 05:30 AM
Which leaves the question - why did WWE not take the opportunity to let Dolph win against Cena.... just very disappointing. Didn't have to be clean but on RAW with Vicky's distraction it could've been perfect timing giving big momentum. Let Bryan get on a roll with some good wins and crossing paths in the Rumble, then going on each others shows leading to a unification match at WM?

Necroyeti
12-26-2010, 05:49 AM
Title Unification then yes.
Won't this rumour GTFO already?

Kashdinero
12-26-2010, 06:24 AM
I'd like to see a good old fashioned Best of Seven Series culminating in a high profile match at The Grandaddy of them all.

mrbluto
12-26-2010, 09:14 AM
My problem with Dolph is reminds me of HHH without the mad aggresion, have him injure someone, I mean a complete beatdown then brag about it. Randy Orton was the legend Killer because he dident respect anyone and it gave him the image of a stone killer.

IrkenInvader
12-26-2010, 10:31 AM
I don't think the Intercontinental is prestigious again. Most of his feuds haven't been about the title. They have been about Vickie or other stupid things with the title taking the backseat.

I definitely think Dolph needs to move up to the main event scene. Anyone who can have good matches against Cena should instantly be given a match for the WHC.

xStraightxEdgexSaviorx
12-26-2010, 12:31 PM
I don't think title unification is a good idea really. At least not the IC and U.S. championship:; they have too many talented mid-carders and upper mid-carders to only have one belt.

dxtaker
12-26-2010, 03:25 PM
Dolph Ziggler deserves to get a push sometime in the future. And if you don't think so, think about it this way. He actually made two of John Cena's matches watchable!

Rich Cranium
12-26-2010, 03:31 PM
Title Unification then yes.

No, no, no, no! Not a good idea to unify IC and US titles!

The Brown One
12-26-2010, 03:39 PM
No, no, no, no! Not a good idea to unify IC and US titles!

Yeah like its been said in countless threads before..there needs to be 2 midcard titles due to the large amount of midcarders.

But I would love to see Ziggler defend his title at WM, or even win MITB. Hes one of those wrestlers who I truly want to watch when they come out of that curtain, which is rare nowadays. 2011 must be the year of the Ziggler!

xv2010lx
12-26-2010, 04:21 PM
There are too many midcarders , not that it's a bad thing . I agree that a title unification is unnecessary . I would like to see Ziggler having his own match at Wrestlemania . He deserves his own match and his own feud . I wouldn't mind if both Daniel Bryan and Dolph Ziggler cost each other the titles to build a feud , but then again Ziggler's been holding on to the I.C title for almost 6 months !

The Brown One
12-26-2010, 04:56 PM
There are too many midcarders , not that it's a bad thing . I agree that a title unification is unnecessary . I would like to see Ziggler having his own match at Wrestlemania . He deserves his own match and his own feud . I wouldn't mind if both Daniel Bryan and Dolph Ziggler cost each other the titles to build a feud , but then again Ziggler's been holding on to the I.C title for almost 6 months !

A champion vs champion fued could be huge! WM puts on its best wrestlers, so DB and Ziggler should face each other for sure. The titles could make it that much better, but are not necessary. I'd rather have DB vs Ziggler in a brand warfare fued.

Side note: Did anyone watch Superstars this week? In the Smackdown recap, did anyone notice the jewish music when they were recapping the Cena and Ziggler match? What the hell up with that?

xv2010lx
12-26-2010, 05:25 PM
lol Dude , I just saw it and you're right . Ha Ha ! Man , the recap also discredits Ziggler's moves . I wanted to see a replay of how Ziggler reversed the AA .

The Brown One
12-26-2010, 05:41 PM
lol Dude , I just saw it and you're right . Ha Ha ! Man , the recap also discredits Ziggler's moves . I wanted to see a replay of how Ziggler reversed the AA .

Lol when Cenas in trouble they don't show that, but when someone else is its ok :P

Also, during the Cena vs Ziggler match on Raw, when Ziggler hit the running, jumping leg drop to the back of Cenas neck and dropped him, Cole called that the ZigZag. WTF?

xv2010lx
12-26-2010, 05:57 PM
Honestly though , Ziggler can make anybody look good .

lol Man , I know ! I've lost count on how many times he's mistaken the Zig-Zag . He confuses the Rocker Dropper with the Zig-Zag . It can be funny , but he needs to differentiate between the two . I mean , it's not like asking we're asking him to call a match like J.R , simply to get it together .

donthatetheplayer
12-26-2010, 06:30 PM
Honestly though , Ziggler can make anybody look good .

lol Man , I know ! I've lost count on how many times he's mistaken the Zig-Zag . He confuses the Rocker Dropper with the Zig-Zag . It can be funny , but he needs to differentiate between the two . I mean , it's not like asking we're asking him to call a match like J.R , simply to get it together .

I think that doesn't look good for Ziggler... If Cole doesn't know your moves it means Vince hasn't made it a priority.... And I cant understand it because he is one of the very few atm moment who bring excitement into the ring with them. I'll just keep hoping that he gets that shot at WM to take the MITB.

Rich Cranium
12-26-2010, 06:45 PM
I didn't realize Dolph was a collegiate amateur wrestler until I just read this quote from the former Spirit Squad member himself:


"Also, because of my wrestling background, I've been able to apply a lot of moves that a lot of people haven't seen in a long time -- stuff I've actually used in college to win matches.

"I used to do this 'crucifix pin,' where you get a guy's arm between your legs and another arm between your arms and you roll him on his back. I used to use that as a finishing move in high school and college. Now I actually use it almost every match. It's really comfortable for me to go to place like that really quickly."

SilverGhost
12-26-2010, 06:58 PM
I didn't realize Dolph was a collegiate amateur wrestler until I just read this quote from the former Spirit Squad member himself:


"Also, because of my wrestling background, I've been able to apply a lot of moves that a lot of people haven't seen in a long time -- stuff I've actually used in college to win matches.

"I used to do this 'crucifix pin,' where you get a guy's arm between your legs and another arm between your arms and you roll him on his back. I used to use that as a finishing move in high school and college. Now I actually use it almost every match. It's really comfortable for me to go to place like that really quickly."

Striker mentions that he(Ziggler) was a collegiate athlete almost every Ziggler match dude. Striker always says "collegiate wrestler from Kent state."

IrkenInvader
12-26-2010, 07:01 PM
I'll just keep hoping that he gets that shot at WM to take the MITB.

MITB PPV, I don't think WM is going to have one this year.


Striker mentions that he(Ziggler) was a collegiate athlete almost every Ziggler match dude. Striker always says "collegiate wrestler from Kent state."

I say that every time I watch his matches too.

Hesterica
12-26-2010, 07:05 PM
I for one don't want Ziggler to be pushed to the moon in one swoop. I think their doing him right. A very slow pace of going to the top. IC Champ, beat everyone. Drop to the next guy. Tag champ. Beat everyone, drop to the next guy. Then he goes on to be a main eventer by competing in a grueling 8 man tournament for the number 1 contendership. Not only does this build him up, it also allows him to be showcased to the fans every now and again. PLUS! It gives more credibility to the titles.

Rich Cranium
12-26-2010, 07:17 PM
Striker mentions that he(Ziggler) was a collegiate athlete almost every Ziggler match dude. Striker always says "collegiate wrestler from Kent state."

That's what I get for blocking out Striker!

The Brown One
12-26-2010, 07:40 PM
MITB PPV, I don't think WM is going to have one this year.

Damn. MITB has become an annual tradition at WM. I'd hate to see it go from WM.

xv2010lx
12-26-2010, 07:58 PM
Ziggler has been wrestling since he was 5 years old .

xv2010lx
12-26-2010, 08:04 PM
He weight 98 pounds his freshman year !

Rich Cranium
12-26-2010, 08:59 PM
He weight 98 pounds his freshman year !

Are you Rain Man? jk ;)

IrkenInvader
12-26-2010, 09:09 PM
He's a great wrestler but I don't think WWE is very high on him. They didn't think he would get over on his own so they stuck him with Vickie to get some cheap heat.

xv2010lx
12-26-2010, 09:22 PM
Ziggler has carried the I.C title for 6 months . I'm pretty sure WWE like's Ziggler . Maybe he doesn't gather much heat . However , he does have a fan-base(Dolphans) that cheers for him .

AgeoftheFallguy
12-27-2010, 11:34 AM
Whats funny to me is that they only started the fued for their Night of Champs match 1 week from the PPV. What if they actually had time to set up an even better match. Actually give them several weeks or even 2 PPV build ups like working to WM. That would give both Ziggler and Bryan plenty of Mic time I would hope. Ive never realized how little some of the guys actually get to talk during the shows. Dragon must have went 4 or 5 weeks before he was even allowed to say 3 words on TV after NXT. It was just coming out to the ring and wrestling and all of they push was just from his face time and wrestling skills. I'm sure if they let Zigg and Danielson go at it could become a great Fued for WM.

SilverGhost
12-27-2010, 11:41 AM
Ziggler has carried the I.C title for 6 months . I'm pretty sure WWE like's Ziggler . Maybe he doesn't gather much heat . However , he does have a fan-base(Dolphans) that cheers for him .

Or maybe creative is brainfarting and has no idea how to use him properly.

Necroyeti
12-27-2010, 12:27 PM
NO U, Ziggler's title run has been an awesome creative decision. I love long title reigns by guys not named Cena, and it's clearly having the Honky Tonk Man heel effect on the WWEUNIVERSE marks.

SilverGhost
12-27-2010, 01:02 PM
NO U, Ziggler's title run has been an awesome creative decision. I love long title reigns by guys not named Cena, and it's clearly having the Honky Tonk Man heel effect on the WWEUNIVERSE marks.

Yeah but I haven't seen anything. They have finally upped up the IC title matches but they want him to keep it. I just see Ziggler holding the IC belt and feuding with some dudes.

Rich Cranium
12-27-2010, 01:12 PM
All things must end! I could have seen Kaval winning the IC title but.....

SilverGhost
12-27-2010, 01:19 PM
All things must end! I could have seen Kaval winning the IC title but.....

Now if they wrote that Kaval won the IC title then they would have something there to give him more matches.

johnadah
12-27-2010, 09:49 PM
I don't think the Intercontinental is prestigious again. Most of his feuds haven't been about the title. They have been about Vickie or other stupid things with the title taking the backseat.

I definitely think Dolph needs to move up to the main event scene. Anyone who can have good matches against Cena should instantly be given a match for the WHC.

Agreed. Not only did he have a good match with Cena, but he made Cena look good. I'm sure Cena realized that Dolph could show him up in the ring. That probably made him work a lot harder.

johnadah
12-27-2010, 09:55 PM
Or maybe creative is brainfarting and has no idea how to use him properly.

He IS being used properly right now. He's bringing honor and prestige back to the IC Title. Just like what the Miz and Danielson have done for the US Title.

xv2010lx
12-31-2010, 11:11 PM
Dolph Ziggler has great matches . I'm glad he is having a lengthy title run . I actually hope his reign is far from over . If anyone should carry the I.C title at Wrestlemania, it's Dolph Ziggler .I would also like Daniel Bryan at Mania with the U.S title . Ziggler Vs. Bryan are almost as exciting as watching
Stone Cold Vs . The Rock . HAPPY NEW YEARS(In a few hours.) !

xv2010lx
01-05-2011, 12:35 AM
So Dolph Ziggler lost the I.C title. :[ At least he's in the World title picture . I think this is going to test Dolph Ziggler's heat reaction from the crowd . I really hope he makes it . Well earned opportunity for Dolph Ziggler .

The Brown One
01-05-2011, 01:09 AM
So Dolph Ziggler lost the I.C title. :[ At least he's in the World title picture . I think this is going to test Dolph Ziggler's heat reaction from the crowd . I really hope he makes it . Well earned opportunity for Dolph Ziggler .

Thanks for the spoiler, before Smackdown even aired ><

CaptainCharisma
01-07-2011, 10:06 PM
I'm so happy he won the #1 contender's match for the WHC. With that being said, will the E drop the ball on this????

Snair
01-07-2011, 11:17 PM
I'm so happy he won the #1 contender's match for the WHC. With that being said, will the E drop the ball on this????

I don't think he'll get title at rumble,but he's bound to be champion someday or other but not that early in RR

IPEEINTHESHOWER
01-07-2011, 11:21 PM
Can someone please explain to me why everyone on this site uses the term "dropped the ball." I hope everyone isn't http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1177025/person-smoking-crack-o.gif without me.

SDR
01-07-2011, 11:22 PM
Dolph and Vickie have been working really hard for the past few months, l hope Christian wins the title at WrestleMania, but I would like to see it on Dolph or Alberto Del Rio in the very near future.

CaptainCharisma
01-07-2011, 11:45 PM
Can someone please explain to me why everyone on this site uses the term "dropped the ball." I hope everyone isn't http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1177025/person-smoking-crack-o.gif without me.

http://i.imgur.com/747Lf.gif

The Brown One
01-07-2011, 11:52 PM
Its already been reported that plans are for Edge and Miz to retain their respective championships past the RR, so I'm afraid no WHC for Dolph. I'd really like to see it happen though, but not so soon. I wouldn't expect him to win the title on his first try.
I too would like to see Christian win the world title. Before Dolph, as hes been here forever and hasn't been allowed to win it yet. Dolph should win it after WM.

They didn't drop the ball on him. Giving him a title match with no explanation(why is he going to fued with Edge?), and at one of the Big 4 PPVS(IMO the 2nd biggest), shows how much confidence they have in him.

CaptainCharisma
01-07-2011, 11:57 PM
Its already been reported that plans are for Edge and Miz to retain their respective championships past the RR, so I'm afraid no WHC for Dolph. I'd really like to see it happen though, but not so soon. I wouldn't expect him to win the title on his first try.
I too would like to see Christian win the world title. Before Dolph, as hes been here forever and hasn't been allowed to win it yet. Dolph should win it after WM.

They didn't drop the ball on him. Giving him a title match with no explanation(why is he going to fued with Edge?), and at one of the Big 4 PPVS(IMO the 2nd biggest), shows how much confidence they have in him.

Do you think they'll give Christian a title shot right after returning from injury?

arsenhole
01-07-2011, 11:57 PM
I'm so happy he won the #1 contender's match for the WHC. With that being said, will the E drop the ball on this????

depends on what you consider dropping the ball cause if you consider anything less than a win them dropping the ball(i would disagree) then yeah definetely the ball WILL be dropped but other than that no i believe he will look very strong

Rich Cranium
01-07-2011, 11:57 PM
They didn't drop the ball on him. Giving him a title match with no explanation(why is he going to fued with Edge?), and at one of the Big 4 PPVS(IMO the 2nd biggest), shows how much confidence they have in him.

I agree that RR is the 2nd biggest WWE event of the year behind WM. The 30 man Rumble itself has always been one of my favorites and of course with the winner going on to WM for the title shot!

CaptainCharisma
01-08-2011, 12:00 AM
I agree that RR is the 2nd biggest WWE event of the year behind WM. The 30 man Rumble itself has always been one of my favorites and of course with the winner going on to WM for the title shot!
Rumble is probably my favorite PPV, I just whipped out my 2003 Royal Rumble DVD today and watched it, good times

The Gravefilla
01-08-2011, 12:01 AM
I think Dolph will either win MITB or be a actual contender for the WHC in 2011

Rich Cranium
01-08-2011, 12:05 AM
Rumble is probably my favorite PPV, I just whipped out my 2003 Royal Rumble DVD today and watched it, good times

I read the bolded part and almost thought you were on the verge of getting banned! ;)

SDR
01-08-2011, 12:31 AM
NXT is becoming a show that is worth watching, I loved how Dolph eliminated Daniel Bryan and then said "I hate you SO MUCH, you have no idea how good that felt!" He just really made me laugh throughout the over-the-top-rope challenge and then the way he got rid of Jacob Novak.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i8-ABb5xZw

Sinliner
01-08-2011, 12:36 AM
I only see this as a big thing, btw has anyone else noticed that atleast 4 up and comers have gotten they're first title matches in the last 4 months, Alberto Del Rio, Morrison (not really his first i thjink he had one just after wrestlmania), Barret, the awesome one the MIZ, and now Ziggler will be getting his first shot! I think its pretty awesome to be honest.

Eric Bischoff
01-08-2011, 01:02 AM
Do you think they'll give Christian a title shot right after returning from injury?

He wasn't given one years ago, what makes you think that he would get one now? Especially the youth movement, considering Christian is 36. He has always been Champ's material, but he was never given a chance to get any major titles in WWE.

themiz666
01-08-2011, 01:06 AM
i think that is so stupid Christian has never been givein a major title he diservises it.

IPEEINTHESHOWER
01-08-2011, 01:09 AM
I read the bolded part and almost thought you were on the verge of getting banned! ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYlDbv7MqE8

xv2010lx
01-08-2011, 01:28 AM
lol Sorry man . I couldn't help it . Ha Ha ! Ziggler deserves a main event push .

The Brown One
01-08-2011, 01:47 AM
lol Sorry man . I couldn't help it . Ha Ha ! Ziggler deserves a main event push .

He is getting a main event push right now.

The Brown One
01-08-2011, 01:52 AM
I only see this as a big thing, btw has anyone else noticed that atleast 4 up and comers havent gotten they're first title matches in the last 4 months, Alberto Del Rio, Morrison (not really his first i thjink he had one just after wrestlmania), Barret, the awesome one the MIZ, and now Ziggler will be getting his first shot! I think its pretty awesome to be honest.

All of them have gotten/getting their shot. Your post confuses me.

BTW shouldn't this merged with the other Ziggler thread?

xv2010lx
01-08-2011, 02:11 AM
Obviously . lol I guess I tried to say that he earned it . Now I hope he gets put over .

Sinliner
01-08-2011, 03:01 AM
All of them have gotten/getting their shot. Your post confuses me.

BTW shouldn't this merged with the other Ziggler thread?

oops i ment HAVE gotten shots

IPOOPINTHEBATH
01-08-2011, 03:15 AM
Alright BUBBLENUGGETS, listen up.

Christian is never going to be a world champ. Everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too. Everyone wants longer title reigns and less changes, but at the same time they want everyone they think is any good on the roster to hold the damn belt. TOO BAD. If everyone get's their paws on it it's "prestige" (it's a fake Title, hence the quotes) is lessened. There are plenty of legends from back in the day who never won, or even got a shot at the belt. Yes, it's horrible that Sheamus can win it twice within his first two years of the company while someone like Christian is overlooked.

And while we're on the subject of "prestige" let's just get it straight that NONE of the belts have ANY prestige. Perceived prestige yes, but if we're going by perception then John Cena is one of the absolute greatest of all time because he hardly ever uses, and correct me if I'm wrong because I'm too lazy to check Wikipedia, but isn't he like 5th in total length of title reigns?

As the IWC, if we're not being hypocrites which 90 percent of us are, Titles should mean absolutely nothing to us. Entertainment is what counts, a match should be the same whether a belt is on the line or not. The only thing the belt means is more TV time, which I suppose is the only reason we should care who holds it. Once again, not like it matters. Cena hasn't held the belt in how long and he's still dominated the air time each week.

Sorry for the rant. :D

EDIT: I take back that Christian will NEVER be World Champ. He's got one chance and that's the push we're all hoping the give him off his injury return. I do have to admit that he's probably one of the top people to win the Rumble this year.

jethro
01-08-2011, 04:40 AM
I dont think Dolph gonna win the heavyweight title at royal rumble,he might lose the match but it'll make Dolph a threat and look good at the same time.
Watch him against Cena few weeks back,I believe Dolph can hang with the big names.

Bennyladd1
01-08-2011, 04:47 AM
I dont think Dolph gonna win the heavyweight title at royal rumble,he might lose the match but it'll make Dolph a threat and look good at the same time.
Watch him against Cena few weeks back,I believe Dolph can hang with the big names.

i agree that dolph can main event , hes 1 of the biggest things on smackdown right now , hopefully he gets the title at some point although i doubt he will win at RR, but i hope he does :)

MattElder
01-08-2011, 06:10 AM
I think dolph could win at RR but I dont think it will be for him
Think about it, his promos aint upto much and would have no prom otime at all, if it wasnt for vicky who just so happens to the WHC's ex wife!!

I smell a storyline coming up which will take us to Elimination Chamber which includes Edge getting screwed by Vicky much like what was happening when Edge and Vicky was together, so i believe this is a major push for vicky with Dolph going along for the ride

Pepsi Plunge
01-08-2011, 06:48 AM
chances are he wont win it at royal rumble, lets pray he does but i cant see him with it before wrestlemania because they would definately want a stronger champ at wrestlemania but i can definitely see him winning a singles match or money in the bank match at wrestlemania

i can see him in a match with daniel bryan over the u.s. title at wrestlemania but him losing but going to the mainevent scene but i can also really see him or daniel bryan winning money in the bank aswell.

Tenzach
01-08-2011, 06:48 AM
I think dolph could win at RR but I dont think it will be for him
Think about it, his promos aint upto much and would have no prom otime at all, if it wasnt for vicky who just so happens to the WHC's ex wife!!

I smell a storyline coming up which will take us to Elimination Chamber which includes Edge getting screwed by Vicky much like what was happening when Edge and Vicky was together, so i believe this is a major push for vicky with Dolph going along for the ride

A major push for Vickie? The hell. You being serious?

MattElder
01-08-2011, 07:31 AM
Yeah deadly serious my friend, Vickys is the E's top heel at the minute, i mean how many times have y.ou seen a performer not be able to finish theyre promo because of the heat they get? Tey have a vry unique oppertunity at the minute with theyre top heel being not being a wrestler.

No doubt Dolph Ziggler is a top athlete and his i ring ability is worthy of main event status but the strongest part of them 2 is vickys promos and heat

U heard it here first

SDR
01-08-2011, 08:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgA5wWD0vgc

Bodom
01-08-2011, 09:10 AM
Yeah do try to not post spoilers unless appropriately marked in the appropriate section.

Some people don't like that.

Necroyeti
01-08-2011, 11:28 AM
Can someone please explain to me why everyone on this site uses the term "dropped the ball." I hope everyone isn't http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1177025/person-smoking-crack-o.gif without me.

Yeah, I thought it was just me. Never heard the phrase before in my life until I started coming here.