View Full Version : Your Choice: Keep Hogan, Russo, or Bischoff
Rich Cranium
01-03-2011, 09:27 PM
If TNA asked you which two they should eliminate and which one they should keep employed out of Hogan, Russo, and Bischoff, who would it be and why?
Iron Ape
01-03-2011, 09:55 PM
I'd keep Bischoff, solely because his naturally douchetastic personality makes him an unbelievably easy to hate heel. He's actually really effective in that role and always has been.
North Vegas Benny
01-03-2011, 10:01 PM
Hogan, His name alone sells more seats then the other two could ever dream of. Russo and Bischoff would be nobodies without Hogan.
Iron Ape
01-03-2011, 10:26 PM
Hogan, His name alone sells more seats then the other two could ever dream of. Russo and Bischoff would be nobodies without Hogan.
If Hogan's name still sells seats, then how is it that TNA hasn't grown an inch since he's come in? Besides, they give away free tickets to the same friggin' arena, week in and week out, so nobody in TNA is really selling more seats than another. I mean, outside of their occasional on the road shows that are performed in front of hundreds, there really isn't any actual seat selling taking place.
vbirwin
01-03-2011, 10:30 PM
Keep Hogan. Russo seems to have fallen out of touch with today's wrestling fan. Bischoff, while always a good corporate heel, brings nothing you don't get more of with Hogan. I think Hogan could do a lot for TNA if he doesn't put himself in the spotlight and with his back issues it looks like his active days are over. I think if you pair up Hogan's name, experience, contacts, and pull within the business with some fresh new writers and bookers I think TNA could make a serious run.
Eric Bischoff
01-03-2011, 10:44 PM
I'd keep Bischoff, solely because his naturally douchetastic personality makes him an unbelievably easy to hate heel. He's actually really effective in that role and always has been.
YES, you have just spoken what I have on my mind, of course you have to keep me.
Hesterica
01-03-2011, 10:53 PM
I'd keep Bishoff. I think out of all the three, he's the only one with fresh ideas left. Plus, he has a chip on his shoulder. He wants to prove that his success in WCW wasn't a one time thing.
steveorton
01-03-2011, 10:58 PM
Bischoff could be great in TNA he just has to let go his WWE past, he has to stop fixating on that aspect and then there would be uprising.
Hogan- he has such a huge ego, I don't think he will ever put over a young star.
Russo- Epic fail, enough said.
So I guess Bischoff, I'm jus sayin...
Necroyeti
01-03-2011, 10:59 PM
Gotta be Bischoff. The man can attract what can only be described as NUCLEAR heat when he's a heel. (or, in the case of the IWC, whenever he opens his mouth)
Hogan just doesn't seem to be in good health at all lately, and Russo is Russo.
AlterBridge
01-03-2011, 11:05 PM
I'm going to go with the least painful and say Bischoff. He could do great things and he's an easy to hate heel.
Hogan is way past his prime, and honestly, IMO, he just uses TNA to further his ego and fame.
Russo is just so... idiot. He fails.
Sinliner
01-04-2011, 12:35 AM
Hogan because if we choose hogan hes the oldest and will be the first to die.................and then all 3 will be gone!!!!!
p.s. im sorry if my comments are at all offensive :(
"i hope iron ape doesnt yell at me"
The Brown One
01-04-2011, 12:57 AM
Hogan because if we choose hogan hes the oldest and will be the first to die.................and then all 3 will be gone!!!!!
p.s. im sorry if my comments are at all offensive :(
"i hope iron ape doesnt yell at me"
You bastard.
On topic:
I'd say keep Bischoff. He did WCW wonders, and should not repeat himself in TNA as he is now, since old storylines which were popular God knows when, won't always be successes now. I feel that he has the smallest ego out of the lot, so I've decided to keep him.
Hogan was known as the best wrestler in the world, a long long time ago, and revolutionized wrestling, which put asses in seats. However, like IronApe said, TNA gives away free tickets to Impact anyway, so theres no need to draw a huge crowd and fill in every seat in the arena like Hogan did with WWE.
Russo just pisses me off to no end. Sure he had alot of great ideas in the Attitude Era that worked well, but he also crossed the line and created controvery, for instance, when The Undertaker crucified Stone Cold on tv.
Now that hes in TNA, hes not doing over the top stuff like he used to, but isn't making good matches. Hes throwing a bunch of random shit together, that he expects will deliver, like the Cookie above the cage match. You've got to be joking. The guy has done well for himself, and its about time he leaves the business.
SilverGhost
01-04-2011, 01:02 AM
Its Bischoff for me. "Controversy creates cash"
Hogan should just stay away from the wrestling business.
Russo....is just stupid batshit.
The Brown One
01-04-2011, 01:10 AM
Russo....is just stupid batshit.
Hey SG, this ones for you.
Why should you never ride with Russo at the wheel?
Because he's constantly swerving.
AlterBridge
01-04-2011, 01:58 AM
Hey SG, this ones for you.
Why should you never ride with Russo at the wheel?
Because he's constantly swerving.
HAHAHA I LOL'd :)
Strange, that no one so far has picked Russo? ;)
The Brown One
01-04-2011, 02:03 AM
HAHAHA I LOL'd :)
Strange, that no one so far has picked Russo? ;)
Theres many reasons that any of us with 2 brain cells could tell you why we didn't.
Iron Ape
01-04-2011, 02:14 AM
I'm not really sure why Hogan insists on continuing with the wrestling thing, anyways, especially considering that he's actually pretty damn good at being a pitchman. If anyone has a shot at filling the void left by Billy Mays' passing, I think the Huckster is definitely it. If I were him, I'd quit further tarnishing the wrestling legacy and just dedicate myself to selling stuff 24/7.
Kashdinero
01-04-2011, 03:55 AM
Bischoff, along with long time buddy Jason Hervey, masterminded Reaction. The concept of that show was really quite groundbreaking for a wrestling show. Regardless of wether it got cancelled or not, it proved that Bischoff still has a place in wrestling.
Russo hasn't been needed in wrestling for a long time. His name is cursed in countries whose names I couldn't spell. No-one has a nice word to say about him, ever... Dixie insist's that he's brilliant, and that he's not responsible for some of the things he's been blamed for. I don't believe her.
When The Hulkster went on that UFC fight night, to promote his TNA debut, Joe Rogan almost burst out in laughter. I did burst into laughter... I've been laughing ever since!
RevolutionIcon
01-04-2011, 04:00 AM
Oh give me a link for that! Please! lol
Kashdinero
01-04-2011, 04:08 AM
Oh give me a link for that! Please! lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FORhbCSSjT8
IPEEINTHESHOWER
01-04-2011, 04:28 AM
HAHAHA I LOL'd :)
Strange, that no one so far has picked Russo? ;)
IPEEINTHESHOWER aims to please alterbridge. So I will pick Russo to stay. In life sometimes you need a fall guy and Russo fits the bill perfectly. I have watched a few interviews with him and he seems pretty smart. In the creative process he seems to want to give the fans what they want. He is a fan after all. Who doesn't like a swerve, I know I do. Yes some of his swerves were just silly but no one can get it right every time. I think when people say he killed WCW they must be high. I give him credit for taking a job that was a sinking ship and trying something to save it. WCW was a sinking ship make no mistake about it. Eric Bischoff has even stated it wasn't Russo's fault. It was really AOL and Time Warner fault but I digress.
Russo has done more to help wresting than he ever has to hurt it. Sure the ROH-bots will always hate Russo (Jim Cornett is the main one) and the WWE universe will always despise him for getting credit for the Attitude Era. But in my eyes he is the definition of a visionary.
U MAD???
The Brown One
01-04-2011, 04:34 AM
Bischoff, along with long time buddy Jason Hervey, masterminded Reaction. The concept of that show was really quite groundbreaking for a wrestling show. Regardless of wether it got cancelled or not, it proved that Bischoff still has a place in wrestling.
Russo hasn't been needed in wrestling for a long time. His name is cursed in countries whose names I couldn't spell. No-one has a nice word to say about him, ever... Dixie insist's that he's brilliant, and that he's not responsible for some of the things he's been blamed for. I don't believe her.
When The Hulkster went on that UFC fight night, to promote his TNA debut, Joe Rogan almost burst out in laughter. I did burst into laughter... I've been laughing ever since!
ReAction wasn't that bad, I actually found it quite interesting. Thats why Bischoff should stay-he can still relate to the fans, despite the fact that hes been in the biz for decades.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FORhbCSSjT8
That was halarious! Are they serious?! Dude you just made my night :D
Kashdinero
01-04-2011, 04:44 AM
That was halarious! Are they serious?! Dude you just made my night :D
Rogan's face said it all.
The Brown One
01-04-2011, 04:58 AM
Bischoff, along with long time buddy Jason Hervey, masterminded Reaction. The concept of that show was really quite groundbreaking for a wrestling show. Regardless of wether it got cancelled or not, it proved that Bischoff still has a place in wrestling.
Russo hasn't been needed in wrestling for a long time. His name is cursed in countries whose names I couldn't spell. No-one has a nice word to say about him, ever... Dixie insist's that he's brilliant, and that he's not responsible for some of the things he's been blamed for. I don't believe her.
When The Hulkster went on that UFC fight night, to promote his TNA debut, Joe Rogan almost burst out in laughter. I did burst into laughter... I've been laughing ever since!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FORhbCSSjT8
Rogan's face said it all.
Rogan:"I can't believe theyr'e making me do this....."
RevolutionIcon
01-04-2011, 04:59 AM
Wow that made me fucking laugh.
Kashdinero
01-04-2011, 05:31 AM
Dixie must've wondered what the hell she was getting in to!
The Brown One
01-04-2011, 06:34 AM
Dixie must've wondered what the hell she was getting in to!
I'd say! I liked it better when Dixie was in complete control of things. Now its mainly Hogans ideas.
I swear the only thing Hogan doesn't have control over is MCMG, because theyr'e constantly in good matches and storylines. Even Angle gets put into a shitty one-the MMA Exhibition with JJ.
68wPayne
01-04-2011, 10:14 AM
I'm going with Bischoff. Even if he wasn't an on screen heel back in WCW he was smart enough to do things that Vince wouldn't like bring in the luchadors and other cruiserweights and make them an important aspect of the show. Why he isn't doing that now with the X-Division is beyond me though.
CobraNightviper
01-04-2011, 03:32 PM
why did that vid under Hogan's name say tna wrestler?by that point he hadn't been on a full time schedule in years.
Rassling_Fan
01-04-2011, 03:45 PM
Of the three, I would keep Russo. Despite all their past achievements elsewhere, in TNA terms Russo was on during the time it was more acceptable. More Tag Teams, X-Division still a focus, the Women Wrestling was a lot better...
The Brown One
01-04-2011, 04:31 PM
I'm going with Bischoff. Even if he wasn't an on screen heel back in WCW he was smart enough to do things that Vince wouldn't like bring in the luchadors and other cruiserweights and make them an important aspect of the show. Why he isn't doing that now with the X-Division is beyond me though.
Yeah! It doesn't work for WWE in Vinces eyes, so it shouldn't work for Bischoff? He should know that he could easily bring back the X-Division to its former glory.
Kashdinero
01-04-2011, 11:58 PM
I would happily lose all three of them if it meant the return of Scott D'Amore.
He was the man responsible for the many awesome aspects of TNA that no longer seem to have a place there. Under his guidance the Knockout division, X-Division and even the main events were something to be proud of.... Russo was not responsible for these things. I repeat, NOT responsible for these things.
The Brown One
01-05-2011, 12:56 AM
I would happily lose all three of them if it meant the return of Scott D'Amore.
Me too. Its not too hard to believe that Russo didn't come up with great ideas.
Rassling_Fan
01-05-2011, 11:45 AM
Russo was not responsible for these things. I repeat, NOT responsible for these things.
Maybe so, but at least when he was the only one of the three in TNA they were still there. The difference now is that D'Amore is gone and Hogan and Bishoff are here. You get rid of Hogan and Bishoff and rehire D'Amore. Russo being there or not wouldn't change much.
MattElder
01-05-2011, 12:36 PM
Im with Russo on this one, He did ok at WWF and was doing fine at TNA before Bishogan came in, He took control of WCW after Bisch screwed it up,
For me the reason Bish isnt worth is weight in piss is because of his EGO, he had to be at center with NWO he now as to be at Centre with Immortal but what does he actually do? Can anybody tell me since they announced Hogan coming to TNA as bish been announced as coming? he just turned up carrying hulks bags and sat in his chair annoying the shit out of me
Kashdinero
01-05-2011, 02:18 PM
Maybe so, but at least when he was the only one of the three in TNA they were still there. The difference now is that D'Amore is gone and Hogan and Bishoff are here. You get rid of Hogan and Bishoff and rehire D'Amore. Russo being there or not wouldn't change much.
I'd rather keep The Bisch, in a backstage capacity, than Russo. What Eric has done for TNA's production and presentation has been revolutionary.... D'Amore was responsible for great ideas like the world X cup and was the driving force behind Kim v Kong. Russo has been responsible for some of the most clustered and overbooked segments in the history of wrestling..... I know who I'd prefer to have around.
Rassling_Fan
01-05-2011, 02:31 PM
As MattElder mentioned, Bishoff has too much of an ego and has to be the center. At least Russo stays off TV. And ironically, not all the stupid gimmick matches in TNA were his idea... Heck, the "Last Rites match" in TNA was Dutch Mantell's fault, not Russo's.
EDIT: on TVTropes (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VinceRusso)...
Even Russo Has Standards: Whilst the angle would appear to be his doing, Russo isn't actually to blame for the Immortal angle. In a ReAction interview a few weeks ago, even he said he didn't like this storyline, and was just being pressured by Hogan and Bischoff to keep going with it. When Vince Russo, the worst wrestling booker in existence, doesn't like a crappy idea? Chances are you should not do it.
Kashdinero
01-05-2011, 02:45 PM
Dutch can join Russo in the unemployment line for all I care. The style of writing employed by Vince is not conducive to TNA's growth. A confused audience does not translate to an entertained audience.
Worst case scenario. Russo has to have all his scripts O.K'd by someone with half a clue.
Best case scenario. Russo goes home and never comes back (just like that other slime ball Ed Ferrara).
At least we can be thankful for the fact that Russo has realised that NO-ONE wants to see his goggle eyed boat race on television anymore.
The Brown One
01-05-2011, 03:24 PM
Dutch can join Russo in the unemployment line for all I care. The style of writing employed by Vince is not conducive to TNA's growth. A confused audience does not translate to an entertained audience.
Worst case scenario. Russo has to have all his scripts O.K'd by someone with half a clue.
Best case scenario. Russo goes home and never comes back (just like that other slime ball Ed Ferrara).
At least we can be thankful for the fact that Russo has realised that NO-ONE wants to see his goggle eyed boat race on television anymore.
This. I'd rather have TNA just keep Bischoff. Hes the lesser of many evils so to speak. If I could, I would get TNA to hire new writers, but we all know that isn't going to happen.
Rassling_Fan
01-06-2011, 10:53 AM
Worst case scenario. Russo has to have all his scripts O.K'd by someone with half a clue.
That's the problem, no one in TNA has a clue. That's why these storylines got pushed in the first place. And the current Immortal Storyline with all of it's WTF moments were all Bishoff's and Hogan's idea. Even Russo didn't like it.
Firebrand
01-06-2011, 11:12 PM
In defence of Hogan and Bischoff they had the right idea. They are well known and (im guessing here but it makes sence) they figure what better way to draw attention to the TNA guys then to have Hulk Hogan who's a famous guy lead the TNA guys in a stable, and let them ride his coat tails to popularity. Unfortunately it didn't work out like that but at the time it probably seemed like the best way to go.
SilverGhost
01-06-2011, 11:15 PM
Immortal should end...I mean....Hogan has his health issues....
RevolutionIcon
01-09-2011, 03:01 AM
I love how everyone sits here all day and says Immortal has to go, I love this storyline, for one reason and one reason only.
If guys were online talking about the people they constantly say they wish would replace Immortal, but without mentioning names, then I would get it. But they aren't, you are all on here constantly whining about Bishoff Hogan and Immortal.
THIS MAKES THEM A SUCCESSFUL HEEL STABLE. YOU ARE ALL STILL WATCHING, WILLING TO READ 10 PAGES WORTH OF COMPLAINING JUST TO FIND A RESEMBLANCE OF A FEELING ABOUT THE SHOW THAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA IN HOW TO DESCRIBE.
They are selling it, and selling it well. It is the cards they were given, and no it ain't no TNA first PPV quality of matches anymore. But you got so much star power that once these guys do get elevated, any Amazing Red or X-Division guy can throw on a wicked match and get noticed for it.
AND..
Will get more internet recognition for it as people will click on recognition before they click on some kids mispelled "G00d rwasslin'g homi3" youtube video.
Fuck stop complaining or stop watching, some of us are enjoying this.. WAY better than the Dr. Nash storyline.
The Brown One
01-09-2011, 04:23 AM
I love how everyone sits here all day and says Immortal has to go, I love this storyline, for one reason and one reason only.
If guys were online talking about the people they constantly say they wish would replace Immortal, but without mentioning names, then I would get it. But they aren't, you are all on here constantly whining about Bishoff Hogan and Immortal.
THIS MAKES THEM A SUCCESSFUL HEEL STABLE. YOU ARE ALL STILL WATCHING, WILLING TO READ 10 PAGES WORTH OF COMPLAINING JUST TO FIND A RESEMBLANCE OF A FEELING ABOUT THE SHOW THAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA IN HOW TO DESCRIBE.
They are selling it, and selling it well. It is the cards they were given, and no it ain't no TNA first PPV quality of matches anymore. But you got so much star power that once these guys do get elevated, any Amazing Red or X-Division guy can throw on a wicked match and get noticed for it.
AND..
Will get more internet recognition for it as people will click on recognition before they click on some kids mispelled "G00d rwasslin'g homi3" youtube video.
Fuck stop complaining or stop watching, some of us are enjoying this.. WAY better than the Dr. Nash storyline.
I did use names. The Pope, The Reds, even Brian Kendrick, Anderson, Kurt Angle. What more do you want?!
RevolutionIcon
01-09-2011, 04:49 AM
With the exception of Brian Kendrick, they are using all of those guys. And nobody can say not Kurt Angle, because if he was on television this whole time it would compromise the storyline. And I'm tired of storylines being compromised, even if it ends up sucking, scrapping it is not the way to go, you gotta finish what you started. A scrapped storyline only sets up a storyline not getting taken serious the next time around.
I don't know, I'm just very positive about this whole thing, and I'm enjoying it. I know it isn't TNA from the past but fuck what is what it was from the past these days? Fuck, we don`t even have our fucking rocket cars that we were promised and nobodys bitching about that. You`d think we could all enjoy some fucked up wrestling? I mean what is wrestling if everything isn't constantly fucked up? It's the best fucking part, I don't think there's enough of it.
The Brown One
01-09-2011, 06:43 AM
With the exception of Brian Kendrick, they are using all of those guys. And nobody can say not Kurt Angle, because if he was on television this whole time it would compromise the storyline. And I'm tired of storylines being compromised, even if it ends up sucking, scrapping it is not the way to go, you gotta finish what you started. A scrapped storyline only sets up a storyline not getting taken serious the next time around.
I don't know, I'm just very positive about this whole thing, and I'm enjoying it. I know it isn't TNA from the past but fuck what is what it was from the past these days? Fuck, we don`t even have our fucking rocket cars that we were promised and nobodys bitching about that. You`d think we could all enjoy some fucked up wrestling? I mean what is wrestling if everything isn't constantly fucked up? It's the best fucking part, I don't think there's enough of it.
Thats alot of swearing. Yeah I also hate the fact that TNA goes nowhere with their storylines sometimes. If TNA is going to end Immortal, I suggest they do it right. They should have Fortune and Immortal turn against each other, instead of the probably swerve of Hogan and Abyss turning on Jeff and Jarrett or something along the lines of that.
mistertna
01-09-2011, 01:09 PM
id keep bischoff just for his production skills and all the high teck cameras he and hervey bring as for hogan he can go home where he belongs as for russo he should just go and commit suicide for the shit hes pulled his fortay is killing things whether it be a person a company or an industry
RevolutionIcon
01-09-2011, 01:29 PM
A man should die because he didn't write your precious soap opera properly? Really? That's the most mature thing you could come up with?
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