PDA

View Full Version : Face/Heel Turns



SgtGohan
08-12-2010, 10:41 AM
You cant post here who you think should or would like to see turn heel or face and why.

I would like to see The Miz turn face and see how that works out, but only after he becomes a WWE champion. because else he would go down the same path as MVP.

Bodom
08-12-2010, 10:51 AM
Been saying this for a long time.

Give MVP his tunnel back, full theme song, and make him a goddamn heel.

CDave3
08-12-2010, 11:17 AM
MVP Go heel. When come back HHH Heel, Have john Morrison go Heel.

Tommy Thunder
08-12-2010, 11:18 AM
i would like to see the following:

MVP heel turn
Chavo Gurerro face turn (feud with ziggler for the IC belt as vikie has thrown chavo to one side in favour of ziggler)
Christian heel turn prehaps?
HHH to return as a heel
Jericho face turn, he's been a heel for ages now, and although he's brilliant, i want to see him back as face Y2J with the tights
Kozlov and Khali heel turn, both are a joke as faces

can't think of any others right now

Bodom
08-12-2010, 11:20 AM
I don't see Jericho coming back as Y2J, but yes as face. I just worry that we'll get Party Boy Y2J

SgtGohan
08-12-2010, 11:29 AM
Oh and i would love to see Mysterio turn heel, i dont think it would ever work out or even ever happen. but still i'm curious to see how it would work out.

Bodom
08-12-2010, 11:30 AM
Meh as long Mysterio stays far far away from the belt

Rangers_Chosen_Hun
08-12-2010, 11:38 AM
hhh was best as heel so should turn him back
mvp works better as a heel to
jericho as face would be great if he could be the jericho over the early 00's but dont see it in pg era
christian heel turn ould begood and form e and c with edge once again
would also be great if cena turned heel bt probs wont happen might be to obvious to us older fans

tantrum
08-12-2010, 03:24 PM
Cena heel turn would be almost as epic when Hogan turned heel at Bash at the Beach 96! That has to be the most epic heel turn of all time! 2 decades as a face and then BAM!! Cena is the face of WWE so a heel turn would be shocking! But doubt it would happen, so realistically I'd like to see MVP turn heel

Qwerty
08-12-2010, 10:49 PM
Morrison need a heel turn (him as a face bores me), MVP needs to be a heel (Everyone else already covered this), and I would love to see Christian turn heel (All that you would need to do is have him attack Hardy).

Necroyeti
08-12-2010, 11:07 PM
Justin Angel needs to turn face once the nexus angle is over, the man doesn't really suit being a heel.

I'm also guessing Morrison and Kofi are about to turn heel shortly, which would be pretty awesome I guess.

RKOViper
08-13-2010, 09:42 AM
In order of who needs a heel turn the most:

1. HHH
2. Cena
3. Morrison
4. MVP
5. Mysterio

In order of who needs a face turn the most:

1. The Miz (after WWE title win)
2. Can't think of anyone else?!

SgtGohan
08-13-2010, 09:50 AM
y2j needs to turn baby imo.

Bodom
08-13-2010, 09:57 AM
I feel it happening, just none of this party boy Y2J. IT was cute then, but it aint gonna work in 2010.

NightWolf
09-26-2010, 06:59 AM
In order of who needs a heel turn the most:

1. HHH
2. Cena
3. Morrison
4. MVP
5. Mysterio
6. Christian
In order of who needs a face turn the most:

1. The Miz (after WWE title win)
2. Can't think of anyone else?!Chris Jericho

Sorry for doing some editing on this, Rkoviper.

maddogg336
10-01-2010, 08:06 PM
Who do u think should crossover to heel/face in my opinion i think the undertaker should have another run as the psychotic heel b4 he retires

NecroButcher187
10-01-2010, 08:17 PM
It's obviously time for a Cena heel turn. Superman goes bad, Orton the anti-hero can't vanquish him setting up Triple H to come in and save the day. He'll win the belt, but Cena'll screw him over setting up the WWE-WHC unification 3-way match of face HHH vs. heel Cena (WWE champ) vs. Undertaker (he'll be WHC by then). Maybe even a 4-way if they allow Kane into the mix, which i wouldn't mind at all (he's earned & deserves it). 'Taker wins, retires the next night on Raw and sets up a tournamennt for the newly unified, and vacated, world championship.

Mr Perfect
10-01-2010, 08:39 PM
It's obviously time for a Cena heel turn. Superman goes bad, Orton the anti-hero can't vanquish him setting up Triple H to come in and save the day. He'll win the belt, but Cena'll screw him over setting up the WWE-WHC unification 3-way match of face HHH vs. heel Cena (WWE champ) vs. Undertaker (he'll be WHC by then). Maybe even a 4-way if they allow Kane into the mix, which i wouldn't mind at all (he's earned & deserves it). 'Taker wins, retires the next night on Raw and sets up a tournamennt for the newly unified, and vacated, world championship.

I love this idea.. Let's hope Vince see's this or does something on these lines.

maddogg336
10-01-2010, 08:51 PM
i think wwe should introduce a new "evil" character that makes kane and undertaker go back to their evil roots. making kane go back to his mask and bodysuit possibly thru a freak accident in a match that burns his face again and making undertaker go back either to this taker or to the purple/grey attire after a brutal hiac match where he gets destroyed and then dragged thru the ring by what looks like demons then months later comes back from the dead.....again

AndyWonder
10-01-2010, 10:18 PM
I need Orton to go back to heel. The "punt" to Jericho's skull on Monday Night RAW just did not feel right considering he was being cheered. It's just to me a sadistic kick like that is for a full blown heel, not a tweener.

Cena just does not have the look of a heel right now. When he used to walk out with his throwback jerseys and big neck chains and his hat tilted to the side, he actually looked like the heel that he played back then.

Scottland
10-01-2010, 11:59 PM
I need Orton to go back to heel. The "punt" to Jericho's skull on Monday Night RAW just did not feel right considering he was being cheered. It's just to me a sadistic kick like that is for a full blown heel, not a tweener.

Cena just does not have the look of a heel right now. When he used to walk out with his throwback jerseys and big neck chains and his hat tilted to the side, he actually looked like the heel that he played back then.

Dude, it doesn't matter if Orton is a heel/tweener/babyface or whatever. Randy Orton is at that stage where fans are going to cheer for him no matter what. Orton is kind-of-like the Austin of today (or on his way to be). The "punt" to Jericho was a sadistic kick. Hell, Orton is still sadistic as a tweener. Just ask Orton himself. He has even stated his character hasn't changed. The only difference now is he's cheered & he RKO's anyone whether they are a babyface or a heel. Truth be told, Orton as a tweener is truly refreshing & something the WWE has been missing greatly. Creating other full-fledge heels is easy but finding a great anti-hero type is a rare breed & Orton has that "it" factor about him. Keep Orton as the anti-hero. It's one of the best things WWE has done in a long time.

Plus, Triple H & John Cena are both expected to become heels. Triple H has stated for awhile he wants to be a heel again. So, you can expect him to turn heel after he gets redemption on Sheamus & from what's being said WWE is strongly considering having John Cena turn heel just before Wrestlemania. Also, Cena is expected to lose at Hell In The Cell PPV. Nexus is going to be around for Survivor Series since the Survivor Series poster is all Nexus on it.

P.S. From the looks of it, Edge seems to be on the verge of turning babyface especially after tonight's Smackdown.

merhardt03
10-02-2010, 06:49 AM
I would hope after his retribution on Sheamus that Haitch turns heel. Hes so good at it n hes faced for a number of years. Go to the darkside HHH. Lol

Splattered-Dreams
10-02-2010, 11:21 AM
I love watching Kofi in the ring. He needs a heel turn to really express himself as a performer...

$$$ Maker
10-02-2010, 12:04 PM
Undertaker=Heel leading a new ministry of darkness
Triple=Heel leading Nexus
Randy orton=Heel legend killer
John Cena=Heel leading Nexus till trple comes back
Kofi Kingstone=Heel psycho
Mvp=Heel teaming with Kofi and win tag team titles
jericho=face when he comes back
christian=heel gets tired being a jobber

Scottland
10-02-2010, 03:46 PM
Undertaker=Heel leading a new ministry of darkness
Triple=Heel leading Nexus
Randy orton=Heel legend killer
John Cena=Heel leading Nexus till trple comes back
Kofi Kingstone=Heel psycho
Mvp=Heel teaming with Kofi and win tag team titles
jericho=face when he comes back
christian=heel gets tired being a jobber

Yeah...that's real good. Put all the top guys as heels. Sorry, that wouldn't sell. Most established guys need to be faces or tweeners because they are the ones that carry the show & it's better to bring rookies in as heels rather then faces or tweeners because it takes time for fans to adapt to liking a character.

Undertaker's heel days are long gone. Hell, Undertaker's wrestling days are coming to an end according to some within the WWE. He gets cheered no matter what & a heel turn won't change that. His character is a heel persona but that man is too beloved by fans & his character is just liked.

Triple H will be a heel again down the line for sure even though I think fans are not going to turn against as he's one of those guys in the stages of his career were he will get cheered for no matter what.

Randy Orton's "legend killer" heel days are done & gone let alone it got stale which is why WWE ended it & created the whole "Apex Predator" & "Viper" theme. Orton as the bada$$ anti-hero is perfect for him let alone GREATLY refreshing. This is what most fans have been waiting for as Orton is to good of a wrestler to keep him heel let alone his career would get hurt in the long run by it. He's really going to become the "it" guy rather soon here & WWE knows it. Many have said the Orton Era has begun or it's on it's way.

John Cena turning heel would be just as refreshing as Orton becoming the anti-hero let alone it's the perfect set-up to let Orton take over.

Kofi as a heel would be interesting because he's not that interesting as a face by any means.

There has been speculation of MVP returning to heel form. So, we will have to see.

I don't think Jericho will be back as a face. He returned as a face last time & it didn't go over well. If anything when he returns it will be heel form & wanting redemption on Orton possibly at Wrestlemania not unless they do that prior because Randy Orton (anti-hero) vs. John Cena (heel) has been speculated for this year's Wrestlemania which is by no means out of the question.

As for Christian, keep him as a babyface. He wasn't that good of a heel.

Bodom
10-02-2010, 03:49 PM
Triple=Heel leading Nexus



I enjoy all of your ideas. But on good principle I just can't agree with this one. It would do nothing for Nexus.

$$$ Maker
10-02-2010, 05:58 PM
I enjoy all of your ideas. But on good principle I just can't agree with this one. It would do nothing for Nexus.


Yeah you're right people will be more interest on Triple H than Nexus.

AndyWonder
10-02-2010, 06:20 PM
I can't see Kofi as a heel. Unless maybe he cut his hair shorter. He also should not do his "boom boom boom" hand signal if he is a heel it would not look right.

Undertaker=Heel leading a new ministry of darkness
Triple=Heel leading Nexus
Randy orton=Heel legend killer
John Cena=Heel leading Nexus till trple comes back
Kofi Kingstone=Heel psycho
Mvp=Heel teaming with Kofi and win tag team titles
jericho=face when he comes back
christian=heel gets tired being a jobber

Belzova
10-02-2010, 07:26 PM
Nexus is played out.

HHH should be a heel
I remember growing up watching Triple H an watched him also grow into what he later became. One thing I learned was that HHH played the role of a heel absolutely PERFECTLY! I loved his DX days, (minus the naked ladies they would show in the audience) and his Evolution days which catapolted Batista an Orton into main event status. He was really good at making you hate him. I use to lean on the ledge of my chair within each an every one of this guys matches. Recently, face HHH.. Just does not feel right. I liked his 09 feud with Orton though! <3

John Cena should be a heel
Cena also shows that he knows how to play a heel an play it well. At the time I did not respect the gimmick but when he went super I realized how important that gimmick would have become in recent years! The throwback jerseys... The large chains.. Him doing little hilarious rap battles on his opponents of the night. An his funny tag team with A-train. I mean HIP HOP HIPPO.

Edge should be a face

Once he was funny... Once he was skinny... Once he was ripped... Once he was VERY cruiserweight-like in ring ability. Edge had it all an did a lot in the business. From E&C all the way to the many 'reek of awesomeness' matches that he would later have with The Hardys an The Dudley Boys. He always had the potential, and lets face it!! He has done everything there pretty much to do in a heel role. Its time for him to further explore the face role which I believe he has not really done a lot in.

If Chris Jericho comes back he should be a face
Y2J! I loved how his voice sounded. I was always like OH YES! He sounds like a rockstar baby. ;D He got people to hate him, and created some very remembrel moments! For me it was his WWF debut since I was there in attendance. "What is my name bitch?!" He also gave Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson a run for his money as far as mic skills are concerned. He was the king of snarky comments, and made the word ASSCLOWN a common word in my house hold. xD

Randy Orton should be a heel

Randy Orton is just a doll.. I remember when he debuted in his blue tights an came out to some jobber music.. XD I wanted to type more but I have to go! You guys know his heel career. =/

Toss some of those guys to Smackdown or Raw an you have yourself some great star power. I want to see John Cena on Smackdown! again.

Bodom
10-02-2010, 07:30 PM
Nexus is played out.

HHH should be a heel
I remember growing up watching Triple H an watched him also grow into what he later became. One thing I learned was that HHH played the role of a heel absolutely PERFECTLY! I loved his DX days, (minus the naked ladies they would show in the audience) and his Evolution days which catapolted Batista an Orton into main event status. He was really good at making you hate him. I use to lean on the ledge of my chair within each an every one of this guys matches. Recently, face HHH.. Just does not feel right. I liked his 09 feud with Orton though! <3

John Cena should be a heel
Cena also shows that he knows how to play a heel an play it well. At the time I did not respect the gimmick but when he went super I realized how important that gimmick would have become in recent years! The throwback jerseys... The large chains.. Him doing little hilarious rap battles on his opponents of the night. An his funny tag team with A-train. I mean HIP HOP HIPPO.

Edge should be a face

Once he was funny... Once he was skinny... Once he was ripped... Once he was VERY cruiserweight-like in ring ability. Edge had it all an did a lot in the business. From E&C all the way to the many 'reek of awesomeness' matches that he would later have with The Hardys an The Dudley Boys. He always had the potential, and lets face it!! He has done everything there pretty much to do in a heel role. Its time for him to further explore the face role which I believe he has not really done a lot in.

If Chris Jericho comes back he should be a face
Y2J! I loved how his voice sounded. I was always like OH YES! He sounds like a rockstar baby. ;D He got people to hate him, and created some very remembrel moments! For me it was his WWF debut since I was there in attendance. "What is my name bitch?!" He also gave Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson a run for his money as far as mic skills are concerned. He was the king of snarky comments, and made the word ASSCLOWN a common word in my house hold. xD

Randy Orton should be a heel

Randy Orton is just a doll.. I remember when he debuted in his blue tights an came out to some jobber music.. XD I wanted to type more but I have to go! You guys know his heel career. =/

Toss some of those guys to Smackdown or Raw an you have yourself some great star power. I want to see John Cena on Smackdown! again.

That was Scotty 2 Hotty that teamed with A-Train.

You're thinking of B-2 (Bul Buchanan). He also teamed shortly with Rodney Mack

IrkenInvader
10-02-2010, 07:35 PM
That does sound awesome. Orton is acting like a heel, but gets cheered because they put him up against heels. Have him fight faces again. His RKO is perfect for a heel, he can reverse a move and BAM! RKO outta no where, great way to have Orton win but not bury the face.

Bodom
10-02-2010, 07:38 PM
That does sound awesome. Orton is acting like a heel, but gets cheered because they put him up against heels. Have him fight faces again. His RKO is perfect for a heel, he can reverse a move and BAM! RKO outta no where, great way to have Orton win but not bury the face.

Truth. Nothing about Orton has changed. He's still the exact same character. Which is what's so great about his face character. They kept everything that made Orton great. Not like Kennedy where they ripped his balls off

NightWolf
10-02-2010, 07:43 PM
Nexus is played out.

HHH should be a heel
I remember growing up watching Triple H an watched him also grow into what he later became. One thing I learned was that HHH played the role of a heel absolutely PERFECTLY! I loved his DX days, (minus the naked ladies they would show in the audience) and his Evolution days which catapolted Batista an Orton into main event status. He was really good at making you hate him. I use to lean on the ledge of my chair within each an every one of this guys matches. Recently, face HHH.. Just does not feel right. I liked his 09 feud with Orton though! <3

John Cena should be a heel
Cena also shows that he knows how to play a heel an play it well. At the time I did not respect the gimmick but when he went super I realized how important that gimmick would have become in recent years! The throwback jerseys... The large chains.. Him doing little hilarious rap battles on his opponents of the night. An his funny tag team with A-train. I mean HIP HOP HIPPO.

Edge should be a face

Once he was funny... Once he was skinny... Once he was ripped... Once he was VERY cruiserweight-like in ring ability. Edge had it all an did a lot in the business. From E&C all the way to the many 'reek of awesomeness' matches that he would later have with The Hardys an The Dudley Boys. He always had the potential, and lets face it!! He has done everything there pretty much to do in a heel role. Its time for him to further explore the face role which I believe he has not really done a lot in.

If Chris Jericho comes back he should be a face
Y2J! I loved how his voice sounded. I was always like OH YES! He sounds like a rockstar baby. ;D He got people to hate him, and created some very remembrel moments! For me it was his WWF debut since I was there in attendance. "What is my name bitch?!" He also gave Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson a run for his money as far as mic skills are concerned. He was the king of snarky comments, and made the word ASSCLOWN a common word in my house hold. xD

Randy Orton should be a heel

Randy Orton is just a doll.. I remember when he debuted in his blue tights an came out to some jobber music.. XD I wanted to type more but I have to go! You guys know his heel career. =/

Toss some of those guys to Smackdown or Raw an you have yourself some great star power. I want to see John Cena on Smackdown! again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzisp_-IsNE/video

Bodom
10-02-2010, 07:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzisp_-IsNE/video

Christ was A-Train underutilized back then. Thank goodness he's tearing up Japan as Giant Bernard

Robstar
10-02-2010, 08:22 PM
That does sound awesome. Orton is acting like a heel, but gets cheered because they put him up against heels. Have him fight faces again. His RKO is perfect for a heel, he can reverse a move and BAM! RKO outta no where, great way to have Orton win but not bury the face.

The RKO out of nowhere is on the same level as CenaMan Mode - it's just too hard to cop sometimes. Also, this is a move that is easy to oversell (as is The Pedigree) - some victims of the RKO jump to freakish heights to help the sell and it just seems like so much crap to me. Sorry, IMO of course. Not all moves can be as easily sold as say, a Stunner

NightWolf
10-02-2010, 08:23 PM
Christ was A-Train underutilized back then. Thank goodness he's tearing up Japan as Giant Bernard

I know right? I am really happy for the guy. On my HCTP video game I had A-train win all of the RAW belts, and I have the dudes overall to its maximum level.

Scottland
10-03-2010, 02:45 AM
That does sound awesome. Orton is acting like a heel, but gets cheered because they put him up against heels. Have him fight faces again. His RKO is perfect for a heel, he can reverse a move and BAM! RKO outta no where, great way to have Orton win but not bury the face.

Orton has gone against faces such as John Cena very recently & Orton was clearly the favorite among the fans. Truth be told, it doesn't matter anymore who Orton faces because he's is now officially an anti-hero type. The fans are going to cheer him on from here on out. The days of Orton getting booed are gone (rightfully so) & it's great to see arguably the best talent in the WWE getting the treatment of becoming the "it" guy in which Orton should have been awhile ago.

AGEOFFALL
10-03-2010, 02:46 AM
To me Orton is still a heel.

Scottland
10-03-2010, 02:50 AM
To me Orton is still a heel.

Orton is still a heel in terms of a persona but he is technically a tweener which is basically a heel or anti-hero that's a fan favorite. Hell, The Undertaker is technically that as well.