Should WWE have PPV's that live up to their name?

[THEKEVINBRAND]

I've been looking at last year's PPV's and as much as I don't mind having gimmick PPV's, shouldn't they all be living up to their name? For example, the upcoming PPV is Elimination Chamber, shouldn't all their matches be in an Elimination Chamber? It takes me to PPV's like Fatal 4-Way where you see a one-on-one match or Money in the Bank where you see a match that's irrelavant to the PPV. If you want to make MITB special, do like King of the Ring when it was a PPV, do qualifiers and then the winners go on in the main event and comepete in the Money in the Bank and the winner would carry the briefcase and choose which world title they wanna go after.

What are your opinions?

[InfoWarrior]

I think that all WWE PPVs should live up to their expections and I'm sure WWE feels the same way. To me it seems like for the past year the WWE has been kind of toying with their PPVs to see what new idead could work and what doesnt. I am really disipointed that both Elimination Chamber matches are not Championship matches, just seems like a waste of an Elimination Chamber match.

[THEKEVINBRAND]

I think that all WWE PPVs should live up to their expections and I'm sure WWE feels the same way. To me it seems like for the past year the WWE has been kind of toying with their PPVs to see what new idead could work and what doesnt. I am really disipointed that both Elimination Chamber matches are not Championship matches, just seems like a waste of an Elimination Chamber match.

I agree, instead we're stuck watching an old man vs. The Miz, a match that was seen on FREE TV before.

[Saiga]

wwe needs to get rid of their stupid gimmick pay per views. it's killing their buy rates.

[THEKEVINBRAND]

wwe needs to get rid of their stupid gimmick pay per views. it's killing their buy rates.

And have what?

[Wrestling Rant]

In response to your question yes and no. I admit for PPVs like Breakin point all the matches should be submission, but for the chamber and Hell in a cell PPV only a few select matches should be contested in the cage. If you have for example 3 or 4 MITB or chamber matches the novelty will quickly wear off. So it's good to have some normal matches in-between to even them out.

-- Wrestling Rant

[Bodom]

No.

The gimmick PPV's are already overkill the way they are. Having every match be a gimmick match will just devalue the gimmick more so then they already have been.

[Bodom]

And have what?

I don't know....maybe a normal PPV? and build to a gimmick match? Instead of "oh hey! The PPV this Sunday is Ladder Match Lunacy! So let's just have a ladder match even though our feud hasn't naturally progressed to a gimmick match!!"

[InfoWarrior]

I don't know....maybe a normal PPV? and build to a gimmick match? Instead of "oh hey! The PPV this Sunday is Ladder Match Lunacy! So let's just have a ladder match even though our feud hasn't naturally progressed to a gimmick match!!"

well said Bodom. a better build for gimmick matches could do wonders! One gimmick match that made no since to me was the "Chairs Match" at the last TLC PPV. Isnt that just a "No DQ Match" unlike a Table Match and Ladder Match which has a purpose of not just NO DQ.

[THEKEVINBRAND]

I don't know....maybe a normal PPV? and build to a gimmick match? Instead of "oh hey! The PPV this Sunday is Ladder Match Lunacy! So let's just have a ladder match even though our feud hasn't naturally progressed to a gimmick match!!"

yeah but the monkeys at creative wouldn't be able to come up with a decent name

[Bodom]

yeah but the monkeys at creative wouldn't be able to come up with a decent name

Bah I could think of some names.

[THEKEVINBRAND]

Bah I could think of some names.

too bad you're not employed by the WWE or are you.....

[Bodom]

too bad you're not employed by the WWE or are you.....

You'll know I am when John Cena is jobbing to Yoshi Tatsu on a daily basis and Daniel Bryan has entered his 2nd straight year as World Heavyweight Champion.

[THEKEVINBRAND]

You'll know I am when John Cena is jobbing to Yoshi Tatsu on a daily basis and Daniel Bryan has entered his 2nd straight year as World Heavyweight Champion.

then i can watch wwe again :D

[ed is dead]

bring back king of the ring as a pay per view with the winner challenging a world champion at summerslam. get rid of all the gimmick ppvs as they only water down the gimmick matches by having two on the same event and most feuds leading into them are not that memorable, so when the ppv happens its usually anticlimactic. also, they put their wrestlers in greater risk of being injured at such gimmick ppvs.

[Trips88]

Whatever happened to PPV's like Armageddon and Bad Blood. I'm all for a gimmick match but I liked it a lot better when they had one or two per PPV. I hate that they name PPPV's after gimmicks. It's takes away from the match itself.

[captainmoonlight]

Ive done this before but aside from the main ppvs

New years revolution - elimination chambers
Backlash
King of the ring - full tournament that includes champions, Maybe a last 16
The bash
Bad blood - hell in a cell
Night of champions - only championship matches
Armageddon - extreme rule team based matches
Vengeance - wild card matches drawn by a computer on the undercard

[Lowki]

Personally they should go back to their old cards and instead of having gimmick ppvs based on ONE theme, mix them throughout the other ppvs. There should be 10-12 max 13-14 is a bit too much and rushes build ups when theres only 2 weeks!
I loved the old ppvs line ups of Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, summerslam, survivor series, King of the ring as the big five. Other ppvs i actually liked (due to the theme and short historys) No way out, backlash and armageddon- Armageddon and no way out have given us some awesome Matches over the years. There are TOO many gimmick matches being used now that kind of waters down the actual gimmick. Elimination Chamber should be done twice like it is but hell in a cell should only be used once a year max. It should be used as a fued ender!
I'd be happy with ppv events in this order;

Jan=Royal Rumble
Big Four.

Feb=No Way Out (
Include Elimination chamber- I prefer the "No Way Out" theme over naming a ppv after a match. If you want another match, throw in a steel cage.

March=Wrestlemania
No info needed.

April=Backlash
The backlash from wrestlemania..it fits better than naming it after a match

May=Judgment Day
Honestly, i liked the name. Plus it's better than a ppv match name.

June=King of the Ring/MitB rotation every other year
This would stop the MitB having too many cases- Have one Mitb match so every year theres 1 at wrestlemania and then KotR/MitB to give another person a title shot. This would stop the gimmicks being worn out in a short space of time but give a mix of events each year. Two MitB in one PPV (three in a year is TOO much). Plus KotR announced on Raw (for the next Raw) never boosts ratings that high. A PPV with a tournament however will do good PPV buys every other year. Give the winner a title shot at night of champions and you get a free fued and the crown is worth something (other than giving people pointless King gimmicks.)

July=Night of Champions
Should always have one night where all the titles are on the line-although that USED to be the case at every ppv until a few years back. Maybe after both world titles have been defended have a non-title match between BOTH champions just to see who's the best.

August=Summerslam
Big Four

September=Great American Bash
One of WCWs best events and plays the patriot card i guess.

October=No Mercy
Better than naming it after a gimmick match. Maybe put a Cell or TLC in this PPV if a particularly big fued is near the end.

November=Survivor Series
Bragging rights match included, now and again, as one of the TWO 5 man tag matches-It gives ring time to mid card talents but bragging rights match on it's own isn't enough to build a ppv around.

December=Armageddon
Include a MIX of gimmicks here-Hell In A Cell would be good as this would end one of the major fueds in the run in to Royal Rumble, falls count anywhere, extreme rules etc. I just think Hell in a cell suits ppvs like armageddon or judgment day.

If anything, cut No Mercy and judgment day from the line up. Whilst buy rates are down, you have to understand that running 13 or 14 ppvs STILL makes more money than running 12, which is why Vince keeps doing it. Think of it this way, on average the worst ppvs draw in about 100,000 buys. Cut two ppvs off, you need to find 200,000 buys extra spread over the others on top of the buys they normally get. However cut the price of some of them (keep the big four as they are because people will still buy them) and you could probably claw in a lot more buyers from the illegal streaming sites. Most people i've spoke to on some of the sites only watch streams because they don't want to pay stupid amounts of money for PPVs.

[68wPayne]

I remember back when I was younger and, I believe he was at the time, Cactus Jack feuding with Triple H over the title. At this promo Triple H declared that Jack could pick any match he wanted as long as there was no thumbtacks, no barbed wire, none of your sick little toys. Cactus Jack responded by saying the match would be Hell In A Cell. The crowd erupted, JR and King went wild, classic moment on TV before your very eyes. Now there is a whole PPV devoted to Hell in a Cell and no one cares. It's no longer special. Why is these guys who haven't met in a normal match before in a Cell. The Cell is the end all of the feud. The writers no longer care about properly developing the feud and putting the time and effort to draw people in.

[Trips88]

I remember back when I was younger and, I believe he was at the time, Cactus Jack feuding with Triple H over the title. At this promo Triple H declared that Jack could pick any match he wanted as long as there was no thumbtacks, no barbed wire, none of your sick little toys. Cactus Jack responded by saying the match would be Hell In A Cell. The crowd erupted, JR and King went wild, classic moment on TV before your very eyes. Now there is a whole PPV devoted to Hell in a Cell and no one cares. It's no longer special. Why is these guys who haven't met in a normal match before in a Cell. The Cell is the end all of the feud. The writers no longer care about properly developing the feud and putting the time and effort to draw people in.

Exactly what I was thinking. Same match between Jack and HHH came to mind too. AGREED.

[SevenCagedTigers]

I think that all WWE PPVs should live up to their expections and I'm sure WWE feels the same way. To me it seems like for the past year the WWE has been kind of toying with their PPVs to see what new idead could work and what doesnt. I am really disipointed that both Elimination Chamber matches are not Championship matches, just seems like a waste of an Elimination Chamber match.

I agree, to a degree. First of all, putting the championship on the line in an Elimination Chamber match is just rediculous. 5 to 1? Those are impossible odds.

On the other hand, it was a way to give credibility to their champion before heading to wrestlemania. The champion could say, "I beat 5 other guys, theres no way I can lose at wrestlemania". I mean, whoever wins Royal Rumble can brag "I beat 39 other men". Both guys would be going into Mania with credibility.

[SevenCagedTigers]

Ive done this before but aside from the main ppvs

New years revolution - elimination chambers
Backlash
King of the ring - full tournament that includes champions, Maybe a last 16
The bash
Bad blood - hell in a cell
Night of champions - only championship matches
Armageddon - extreme rule team based matches
Vengeance - wild card matches drawn by a computer on the undercard

On that note, I enjoyed Cyber Sunday, or its counterpart, Cyber Monday. I liked the idea of WWE giving fans what they want. For example, when they allowed you to pick 1 of 3 superstars to participate in a match, sometimes you would get oddball pairings the WWE would never think to use. Or you would get underappreciated guys like Evan Bourne getting to compete in high-profile matches. I always thought it was a special night because the fans got to choose instead of being force fed

[SevenCagedTigers]

September=Great American Bash
One of WCWs best events and plays the patriot card i guess.

The "Great American Bash" name has been retired by the WWE because it alienates foreign countries from buying the PPV. The last I heard, it would be referred to only as "The Bash".

[steveorton]

Bring back Backlash, No mercy, No way out, Unforgiven and get rid off Hell in a Cell, Elimination Chamber, Extreme Rules, I'm jus sayin...

[Lowki]

The "Great American Bash" name has been retired by the WWE because it alienates foreign countries from buying the PPV. The last I heard, it would be referred to only as "The Bash".
Yeah it's the bash now. I'm british and i've never felt alienated by the name since the early 90s. It's a pretty contradictory though with Cena as the face of their company. I mean if they think a name alienates people, then they must realise showing american troops on TV and having Cena dedicate his matches to them with tags would probably be worse? I mean it's good that they appreciate the troops, but for some countries they actually air in, American military is pretty controversial. I just think it's a bit of a stupid reason for the name change.
I mean several countries like China, Japan, North Africa & Middle East (Arab World) are just a few.

[HeelTurn]

Yeah Hell In A Cell is a feud ender not a PPv with 2 or 3 matches like that.
Breaking Point had a lot of potential, decent name (alot better than Submission Sunday) plus there was a lot of different types they could use: I quit, submission, ultimate submission, falls count anywhere submissions only, tag team submission etc etc

[Kashdinero]

On that note, I enjoyed Cyber Sunday, or its counterpart, Cyber Monday. I liked the idea of WWE giving fans what they want. For example, when they allowed you to pick 1 of 3 superstars to participate in a match, sometimes you would get oddball pairings the WWE would never think to use. Or you would get underappreciated guys like Evan Bourne getting to compete in high-profile matches. I always thought it was a special night because the fans got to choose instead of being force fed

I hated this show, all it did was prove how easily manipulated the 'E Universe is. I'm glad this insulting piece of crap has been scrapped.

Also, I could be wrong, but wasn't it's counterpart Taboo Tuesday?

[The Brown One]

well said Bodom. a better build for gimmick matches could do wonders! One gimmick match that made no since to me was the "Chairs Match" at the last TLC PPV. Isnt that just a "No DQ Match" unlike a Table Match and Ladder Match which has a purpose of not just NO DQ.

They could always make it so that in no DQ matches..if you use a chair you will be DQ'ed. But thats something that TNA would do.


I hated this show, all it did was prove how easily manipulated the 'E Universe is. I'm glad this insulting piece of crap has been scrapped.

Also, I could be wrong, but wasn't it's counterpart Taboo Tuesday?

I think it was just a show for cheap thrills, giving the WWE Universe "complete control" over the matches, and whos in them. And yeah, the PPV used to be called Taboo Tuesday, before it was renamed Cyber Sunday.

I think that the PPVs should either stay where they are, or go back to the ones which didn't really have gimmicks(e.g. Armageddon, Backlash, Judgment Day). If a PPV, lets say Elimination Chamber, had all matches as Elimination Chamber matches, then that devalues the rarity of the match, and since anyone can be in it, even a jobber, it makes it look weak. And also, because hardcore-style matches have been watered down, it would be like watching 5-6 matches, being disappointed. Its been said many times before, and I'll say it again: there should be less PPVs, with only the good ones still remaining. Good ones meaning no gimmicks(except maybe MITB). Have the "dangerous" matches e.g. HIAC, and EC only once a year, since that will make them seem more threatening.

[AGEOFFALL]

What about In Your House: (Insert Relevant Title to the PPV here)?

[PandaMassacre]

Backlash, No Way Out, and Unforgiven, AND Judgement Day were cool pay per view names.


I think if No Way Out was still around it would have been the perfect ppv to carry the Elimination Chamber.

[Bodom]

too bad you're not employed by the WWE or are you.....

January = Behold:Galvatron
February = Acts of Fred Savegery
April = Wrestlepalooza
May = Hangover
June = Next Month Is July
July = American Cock Puncher 2011
August = Uncomfortable
September = Semi-Breakable
October = Who The Hell Are These Guys
November = Big Ole Aretha Balls
December = Old Men In Sweatpants

[THEKEVINBRAND]

January = Behold:Galvatron
February = Acts of Fred Savegery
April = Wrestlepalooza
May = Hangover
June = Next Month Is July
July = American Cock Puncher 2011
August = Uncomfortable
September = Semi-Breakable
October = Who The Hell Are These Guys
November = Big Ole Aretha Balls
December = Old Men In Sweatpants

lol that would be great WWE or TNA PPV names lol

[Lance Storm]

Personally they should go back to their old cards and instead of having gimmick ppvs based on ONE theme, mix them throughout the other ppvs. There should be 10-12 max 13-14 is a bit too much and rushes build ups when theres only 2 weeks!
I loved the old ppvs line ups of Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, summerslam, survivor series, King of the ring as the big five. Other ppvs i actually liked (due to the theme and short historys) No way out, backlash and armageddon- Armageddon and no way out have given us some awesome Matches over the years. There are TOO many gimmick matches being used now that kind of waters down the actual gimmick. Elimination Chamber should be done twice like it is but hell in a cell should only be used once a year max. It should be used as a fued ender!
I'd be happy with ppv events in this order;

Jan=Royal Rumble
Big Four.

Feb=No Way Out (
Include Elimination chamber- I prefer the "No Way Out" theme over naming a ppv after a match. If you want another match, throw in a steel cage.

March=Wrestlemania
No info needed.

April=Backlash
The backlash from wrestlemania..it fits better than naming it after a match

May=Judgment Day
Honestly, i liked the name. Plus it's better than a ppv match name.

June=King of the Ring/MitB rotation every other year
This would stop the MitB having too many cases- Have one Mitb match so every year theres 1 at wrestlemania and then KotR/MitB to give another person a title shot. This would stop the gimmicks being worn out in a short space of time but give a mix of events each year. Two MitB in one PPV (three in a year is TOO much). Plus KotR announced on Raw (for the next Raw) never boosts ratings that high. A PPV with a tournament however will do good PPV buys every other year. Give the winner a title shot at night of champions and you get a free fued and the crown is worth something (other than giving people pointless King gimmicks.)

July=Night of Champions
Should always have one night where all the titles are on the line-although that USED to be the case at every ppv until a few years back. Maybe after both world titles have been defended have a non-title match between BOTH champions just to see who's the best.

August=Summerslam
Big Four

September=Great American Bash
One of WCWs best events and plays the patriot card i guess.

October=No Mercy
Better than naming it after a gimmick match. Maybe put a Cell or TLC in this PPV if a particularly big fued is near the end.

November=Survivor Series
Bragging rights match included, now and again, as one of the TWO 5 man tag matches-It gives ring time to mid card talents but bragging rights match on it's own isn't enough to build a ppv around.

December=Armageddon
Include a MIX of gimmicks here-Hell In A Cell would be good as this would end one of the major fueds in the run in to Royal Rumble, falls count anywhere, extreme rules etc. I just think Hell in a cell suits ppvs like armageddon or judgment day.

If anything, cut No Mercy and judgment day from the line up. Whilst buy rates are down, you have to understand that running 13 or 14 ppvs STILL makes more money than running 12, which is why Vince keeps doing it. Think of it this way, on average the worst ppvs draw in about 100,000 buys. Cut two ppvs off, you need to find 200,000 buys extra spread over the others on top of the buys they normally get. However cut the price of some of them (keep the big four as they are because people will still buy them) and you could probably claw in a lot more buyers from the illegal streaming sites. Most people i've spoke to on some of the sites only watch streams because they don't want to pay stupid amounts of money for PPVs.

I have some changes:

The Great American Bash in July: Just like it was in WCW.
Night of Champions in place of Judgment Day in May.

My big one would be....Starrcade in December
Why not have the premier event of NWA/WCW be featured as a PPV?

[Deadman's_streak]

I think these new ppv names are retarded. I mean how can anyone possibly like them?

I'm just coming back to the whole wwe scene after a while away and I come back to the elimination chamber ppv? The money in the bank ppv?

Come on, whatever happened to the good old ppv's like armageddon, fully loaded, no way out..ect.

I mean what was wrong with the name's before?

[The Brown One]

I think these new ppv names are retarded. I mean how can anyone possibly like them?

I'm just coming back to the whole wwe scene after a while away and I come back to the elimination chamber ppv? The money in the bank ppv?

Come on, whatever happened to the good old ppv's like armageddon, fully loaded, no way out..ect.

I mean what was wrong with the name's before?

Maybe when the WWE was going PG they thought that the names would scare little children -.-

[Deadman's_streak]

Maybe when the WWE was going PG they thought that the names would scare little children -.-

Don't you think it's kind of ironic how all these little kid channels like cartoon network, nick, disney channel...ect have become more teen and young adult related while the WWE has become more kid related.

What the heck is wrong with this world?

[The Brown One]

Don't you think it's kind of ironic how all these little kid channels like cartoon network, nick, disney channel...ect have become more teen and young adult related while the WWE has become more kid related.

What the heck is wrong with this world?

I've actually noticed that..strangely enough. I don't mind Adult Swim ;P
But I believe that many people(mostly mothers) think that wrestling is a violent thing, due to the stuff they do in the ring, and the WWE is trying to make it a family orientated product, so that the mothers don't complain, and they can get more viewers.

[Deadman's_streak]

I've actually noticed that..strangely enough. I don't mind Adult Swim ;P
But I believe that many people(mostly mothers) think that wrestling is a violent thing, due to the stuff they do in the ring, and the WWE is trying to make it a family orientated product, so that the mothers don't complain, and they can get more viewers.

I understand that, but idk...
blah! Lol

[Bodom]

Maybe when the WWE was going PG they thought that the names would scare little children -.-

So they go and name a PPV Hell In A Cell lol

[HeelTurn]

So they go and name a PPV Hell In A Cell lol

Still surprised they havent renamed that Heck In A Cell yet lol