VR Main event. Who benefits from the decision?

[Bandages]

Being a UK viewer, and Victory Road not being aired till Thursday, I've only just watched the Main event on You tube. It is easy to rant about many things but my main question is Who benefits from the decision to send Hardy out?

Firstly, lets be under no illusions that Hardy is the first wrestler to turn up in an unacceptable state to a match. Its easy to blame Jeff, but the truth is that someone in creative/managements made the final decision to let him wrestle in the main event. As far as i can tell every other post so far has had ideas about an alternative to this match going ahead or a way to adjust the card so that it doesn't embarrass everyone. So in no way do i buy that TNA didn't know what else to do.

This debacle has an adverse affect for everyone;

1. Jeff Hardy. Yes he was in no state, but he has a fairly loyal following and can produce a decent match (ladder match with Anderson wasn't too bad). Now everyone and their mother wants him sacked and/or in rehab. He shouldn't have turned up like that but shouldn't he be helped rather than exposed on a ppv?

2. Sting. Just returned, probably for his last title reign, clearly furious with having to wrestle Hardy and the whole situation. Makes a mockery of his return and his status as an icon.

3. TV fans and Live audience. Fans should be rightfully furious, This is not like the WCW beach bash of 2000 with Hogan and JJ title match, as they got a 'Replacement' main event, this was a farce where all parties were embarrassed. The Live fans especially should be compensated for TNA not even trying to make up for it by adjusting the match

4. TNA themselves. Would this have happened in WWE? No. It is another example of a company getting the major decisions wrong about creative direction. They have not protected either star, they have annoyed fans and made no clear attempt to correct it.

I realise this has become a bit of a rant, sorry. My only conclusion is that TNA actually WANTED to expose the fans to Jeff's behavior/state. I have read reports that other TNA stars were also not happy about the match going ahead. I cannot believe that even his brother could not have intervened with this awful decision.

[rko619]

hi welcome and take a braeth n chill out . hardy sucked at vr and evry1 knows it . but i like hardy and like ive said in previous threads just send him to jail and let him come clean.

[thejman93]

Welcome to the fourms bud. :) I pretty much agree with what you said; TNA digraced themselves on Sunday.

[ihearvoices]

hi welcome and take a braeth n chill out . hardy sucked at vr and evry1 knows it . but i like hardy and like ive said in previous threads just send him to jail and let him come clean.

You Chill out this is just Wrestling at the end of the Day really? you want him to Go to jail just cause of that? but anyways i say give him a choice either Go To Rehab get clean or Be fired simple as that. this guy has been giving so many chance to clean his act i dont want to see him in jail because he has a daughter and wife but i think he needs to take some time off to get himself together and make a big come back Clean and better then ever.

[KayfabeIsDead]

in retrospect they should have made it
a 4 way and hardy could have layed on
the outside half the match,no one benefited
from the decision really

[dres1214]

You Chill out this is just Wrestling at the end of the Day really? you want him to Go to jail just cause of that? but anyways i say give him a choice either Go To Rehab get clean or Be fired simple as that. this guy has been giving so many chance to clean his act i dont want to see him in jail because he has a daughter and wife but i think he needs to take some time off to get himself together and make a big come back Clean and better then ever.

I gotta disagree. With my line of work, you can take a guess. He was caught with an illegal substances, and still continues to abuse those illegal substances. Atleast if he spends time behind a cell he will be clean and hopefully continue his career, and not wash it away. We've seen guys who have admitted to abusing drugs or what not. Where are they now? Some have come clean and continue to live a sober life. But the damages they already did can't be washed away. Jeff Hardy is well on his way being that somebody.

[Tommy Thunder]

You can't just 'sit back and chill' at something like that! Victory Road was a disgrace and an embarrassment to TNA. More than that, Sting was embarrassed in front of a ppv audience. Sting is one of the greatest ever, and I can't imagine how pissed off he must be at the thought that he was involved at that debacle.
Hardy should be in jail. He has been charged with a lot of charges that would have any other person locked up, so why should he be treated differently? Because his name is Jeff Hardy? Hardy screwed up at Victory Road, and should be dismissed from the company, and not let back until he's clean/out of jail if he goes there.

This is coming from a Hardy fan, but just because I'm a Hardy fan, I'm not going to hide from the fact that he's done something wrong and should be severally punished for it.

[HCollins-TNA1]

Would say for surely not the fan who bought the PPV.....Then again i would say yes it is the fans if TNA does something big at the next PPV or on Impact in the weeks to come!!!
Have a Main Event that people will like..... Just Hoping how they are teasing things TNA don't make it a 5 way dance at Lockdown.... Maybe a 3 way dance???

[mwinfie]

This should not be treated as a one of incident. This is just the peak of the mountain of Jeffs piss poor attitude towards wrestling. he hasn't had anything approaching a work ethic since the 90s and he's just a waster. Everyone knows that most people in TNA are doing something or other to cope with their physical pain, hell the best documented drug taker in wrestling is RVD who fights for the legalization of weed. But at the end of the day every single other star turns up fit for work because they don't think they're better then the company. TNA for Jeff is slumming it, somehwere he can get a cheque and still piss all over the company. Keeping on veterains to long, caveing to every ridiculous contract stipulation and now TNA are actually letting it slide when someone is to out of it to compete in a main event. If you read this and agree it's unacceptable boycot TNA till Jeff is punished for his actions. If you turned up in that state to ANY other job in the world you'd be fired.

[rko619]

This should not be treated as a one of incident. This is just the peak of the mountain of Jeffs piss poor attitude towards wrestling. he hasn't had anything approaching a work ethic since the 90s and he's just a waster. Everyone knows that most people in TNA are doing something or other to cope with their physical pain, hell the best documented drug taker in wrestling is RVD who fights for the legalization of weed. But at the end of the day every single other star turns up fit for work because they don't think they're better then the company. TNA for Jeff is slumming it, somehwere he can get a cheque and still piss all over the company. Keeping on veterains to long, caveing to every ridiculous contract stipulation and now TNA are actually letting it slide when someone is to out of it to compete in a main event. If you read this and agree it's unacceptable boycot TNA till Jeff is punished for his actions. If you turned up in that state to ANY other job in the world you'd be fired.


couldnt have said it better

[evilgenius780]

Substance abuse is an ongoing problem in the wrestling business, this is no secret. By not punishing Jeff Hardy severely, they would be doing him no favours, he obviously needs help at this point. Getting clean could save his career, look what some time away, and some rehabilitation did for Eddie Guerrero, even though it eventually caught up to him, he got to leave being at the top, and having his family back, rather than at rock bottom.

This is one of many reasons I do not watch TNA, anyone who ran a wrestling business, or any business for that matter, woyuld punish their employees for showing up to work like that. I know if one of my employees showed up to work like that, I would fire them.

I have never had anything but the upmost respect for Sting, his choice to work for TNA will not change that, I do not, however, have any respect for the company he works for. They caused themselves more embarrasment then they can afford on Sunday. I have been vocal about my dislike for the company in the past, but thats a new low for them. There is no reason to condone that kind of behaviour from Jeff Hardy, because at the end of the day, they don't need him. The one thing I do think TNA has going for them (the absolute only thing) is a roster full of talent that could take his spot.

I have always hoped that TNA would one day become a great promotion, and actual competition for the WWE, but the way they handled this, along with so many other things, shows me they are not to be taken seriously.

[SilverGhost]

^^Agreed.

Especially the last part.

[Automatic]

Nobody. That clearly showed that Jeff Hardy is not qualified to be main event, let alone wrestle. It's disrespect to Sting, and TNA was again showd as a bad company, and it will maybe affect future ratings and PPV buys.

[Lowki]

Jeff should not have been allowed out in that state. This is more TNAs fault than Hardy's. He probably wasn't fit enough to make decisions whilst the management really should have been there to not only monitor their product but also the well being of their talents. It's a good thing Sting didn't go ahead with the match because he or jeff could have been hurt.

[Saiga]

i saw the main event at victory road and i'm just appalled at how jeff hardy popped right back up after taking a scorpion deathdrop like it was nothing. the guy doesn't know how to sell, much less wrestle.

personally, i never saw jeff hardy as main event talent. to me, he is just a guy who just jumps off things to make an impact. i felt that when wwe gave him the world title more than once, i was ready to shoot myself. i didnt mind him winning the wwe championship the first time then lose it a month later as i thought he chased the title for years so might as well see him with it just for the sake of it. i enjoyed his feud with cm punk but i was mostly rooting for punk to win the matches and was glad cm punk was the guy that "got him fired from wwe" ......

i always thought matt hardy was the talented hardy brother and should have got the bigger push.

[SevenCagedTigers]

1. Jeff Hardy. Yes he was in no state, but he has a fairly loyal following and can produce a decent match (ladder match with Anderson wasn't too bad). Now everyone and their mother wants him sacked and/or in rehab. He shouldn't have turned up like that but shouldn't he be helped rather than exposed on a ppv?

I agree with this. The following night (Monday the 14th) at the Impact tapings, it was reported that Jeff Hardy was sent home. Someone on this board commented "Lets hope he doesn't end up like other people who got sent home, if you know what I'm saying". I immediately thought of Chris Benoit and I wondered, how responsible is it to send someone home who is clearly abusing substances? "Hey, lets send this guy home where he can continue to binge unsupervised". I really hope that all parties involved were responsible in taking care of Jeff Hardy.

Nobody ever looks at Eddie Guerrero and says "WHAT A LOSER. HE ABUSED DRUGS AND DIED FROM HEART COMPLICATIONS, ITS A GOOD THING HE'S DEAD!"

Nobody ever says, "ITS A GOOD THING MISS ELIZABETH DIED IN LEX LUGER'S BASEMENT, THATS WHAT SHE DESERVES FOR BEING A DRUGGIE!"

Nobody ever says "ANDREW "TEST" MARTIN, WHAT A WASTE OF A PERFORMER AND WHAT A WASTE OF SO MANY GREAT OPPORTUNITIES, GOOD RIDDANCE!"

When we talk about guys like Umaga, Bam Bam Bigelow, The Texas Tornado and so on, we don't disrespect them by putting them down at their lowest. We never speak ill of the dead, despite them doing the same misdeeds that we the wrestling community condemn Jeff Hardy for perpetuating. So why are we not more forgiving when this guy clearly has a problem?

[HCollins-TNA1]

Hulk Hogan who in TNA was pushing him to be the champ...... Hulk Hogan, he got creative control over who he works with..... Thus he choose Hardy..... he could had choose Anderson or Angle, but no he choose Hardy....

[SilverGhost]

Hulk Hogan who in TNA was pushing him to be the champ...... Hulk Hogan, he got creative control over who he works with..... Thus he choose Hardy..... he could had choose Anderson or Angle, but no he choose Hardy....

Hogan AND Bischoff AND Russo.

[HCollins-TNA1]

Seem like TNA kept their Thursday Night fan base..... even competeing againist College Basketball!!!!!