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capn-edu
08-14-2011, 09:48 PM
KEVIN NASH!?
WDF?!
and now del rio CHAMPION OMG!??????????
VanHooliganX
08-14-2011, 09:50 PM
Ha!
I told you Del Rio would cash it in!!!
Christ its like I can see the future :P
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 09:51 PM
Del Rio cashes in MITB and wins the WWE title after Nash attacks Punk... that was awesome...
Parrot_on_ROIDS
08-14-2011, 09:51 PM
Punk VS Nash NoC
el gabo
08-14-2011, 09:52 PM
Asshole. Add spoiler alert in the title. How many goddamn times has this been discussed.
KingOrton
08-14-2011, 09:52 PM
I marked out for Kevin Nash!
Danielle20SxE
08-14-2011, 09:52 PM
Great, Alberto Del Untalented is champ. I think i'll go puke now.
No_1eddiefan
08-14-2011, 09:52 PM
I just MARKED THE FUCK OUT!!!!
What the fuck just happened?!?!
On another note, I'm not looking forward to the SS Prediction contest.
But still....Cena foot on the rope, Punk champion, no Pedigrees, Nash attacks Punk, Del Rio cashes in, Del Rio champion. WHAT?!
Grind_Bastard
08-14-2011, 09:52 PM
Del Río was expected, but nobody saw Kevin Nash coming. OMG!
Rich Cranium
08-14-2011, 09:53 PM
Question is, wtf is up with Nash? And did you notice that at the Rumble, they only called him Diesel but now Nash?
zrdt12
08-14-2011, 09:54 PM
with exactly 2 minutes left i thought wwe messed up bad.... then woooooww awesome!!!
The_Awesome_One
08-14-2011, 09:54 PM
yep most random thing I have seen for some time
Grind_Bastard
08-14-2011, 09:54 PM
On another note, I'm not looking forward to the SS Prediction contest.
I'll be surprised if I'm not the last one.
Bodom
08-14-2011, 09:54 PM
Asshole. Add spoiler alert in the title. How many goddamn times has this been discussed.
Plenty of times. It's not a spoiler when it's already aired.
Don't want the PPV spoiled than stay off the internet. Period.
RagingBallsFTW
08-14-2011, 09:54 PM
Yup, Kevin Nash got a great pop but as for Del Rio winning the title, I think the crowd didn't really care for it.
Mtt08 xXx
08-14-2011, 09:55 PM
Asshole. Add spoiler alert in the title. How many goddamn times has this been discussed.
the PPV was over and the results will be on WWE.com momentarily, i dont see how this is a spoiler honestly.
No_1eddiefan
08-14-2011, 09:55 PM
Question is, wtf is up with Nash? And did you notice that at the Rumble, they only called him Diesel but now Nash?
I noticed that!
Maybe they'll make a Diesel vs. Kevin Nash feud after the Sin Cara-Sin Cara feud...
SESAfro
08-14-2011, 09:56 PM
To quote M. Night Shyamalan: "What a twist!"
TroyD
08-14-2011, 09:56 PM
Asshole. Add spoiler alert in the title. How many goddamn times has this been discussed.
Its over already!! If you dont want to see the results then stay off here. Seems pretty simple to me. You know everyones going to be talking about it.......asshole.
el gabo
08-14-2011, 09:56 PM
Does anyone remember to add spoiler alert? Infractions should be given.
RagingBallsFTW
08-14-2011, 09:57 PM
Not really. Now WWE is predictable again especially since Del Rio needs to be champion for those Mexico tapings.
Does anyone remember to add spoiler alert? Infractions should be given.
Last time I check, it just aired nationally so it can't really be a spoiler.
No_1eddiefan
08-14-2011, 09:57 PM
I'll be surprised if I'm not the last one.
Haha, I only got Punk winning against Cena right...
I think you got a competitor for the bottom place mate...
Mtt08 xXx
08-14-2011, 09:57 PM
Does anyone remember to add spoiler alert? Infractions should be given.
not spoilers if its aired already
VanHooliganX
08-14-2011, 09:57 PM
I just MARKED THE FUCK OUT!!!!
What the fuck just happened?!?!
On another note, I'm not looking forward to the SS Prediction contest.
But still....Cena foot on the rope, Punk champion, no Pedigrees, Nash attacks Punk, Del Rio cashes in, Del Rio champion. WHAT?!
Agreed.
Bryan, Beth, Christian and Miz all lost! I get Del Rio right though so i'm happy I guessed the obvious 1 right :)
North Vegas Benny
08-14-2011, 09:57 PM
I like how Booker called him the Big Homie, now I'm hoping for a return of Black Snow and Chet Lemon on the announce table.
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 09:58 PM
I guess Nash got tired of sitting in the back making easy money....
I would bet $100 that Rey win tomorrow night and then Cena gets a rematch....
Grind_Bastard
08-14-2011, 09:59 PM
I noticed that!
Maybe they'll make a Diesel vs. Kevin Nash feud after the Sin Cara-Sin Cara feud...
So Kane is making Fake Diesel again?
Bodom
08-14-2011, 09:59 PM
Does anyone remember to add spoiler alert? Infractions should be given.
Quit your bitching and stop playing mod.
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 09:59 PM
Does anyone remember to add spoiler alert? Infractions should be given.
Not a spoiler unless you watching the replay or something????
Brewer 314
08-14-2011, 10:02 PM
Quit your bitching and stop playing mod.
As if anybody actually would want to moderate a wrestling forum.
Bodom
08-14-2011, 10:03 PM
As if anybody actually would want to moderate a wrestling forum.
You were so nice when you came back from being banned. You're starting to slip.
Grind_Bastard
08-14-2011, 10:03 PM
Haha, I only got Punk winning against Cena right...
I think you got a competitor for the bottom place mate...
We will see :D
RagingBallsFTW
08-14-2011, 10:03 PM
I guess Nash got tired of sitting in the back making easy money....
I would bet $100 that Rey win tomorrow night and then Cena gets a rematch....
I actually see the title Match tomorrow going to a no contest to set up a fatal 4 way match at NoC. This left me with both a sweet and sour taste. I knew Del Rio would win the title but why do it tonight, especially with the storyline they had going.
el gabo
08-14-2011, 10:04 PM
As if anybody actually would want to moderate a wrestling forum.
Haahahaha good one.
No_1eddiefan
08-14-2011, 10:05 PM
So Kane is making Fake Diesel again?
Haha, I was joking, but that's actually possible!!
I doubt it though. WWE creative isn't that ba......yep, Diesel vs. Kevin Nash at Wrestlemania 28.
Mtt08 xXx
08-14-2011, 10:05 PM
I actually see the Ttitle Match tomorrow going to a no contest to set up a fatal 4 way match at NoC. This left me with both a sweet and sour taste. I knew Del Rio would win the title but why do it tonight, especially with the storyline they had going.
i agree. this seems to TOTALLY set up a F4W match. should be interesting.
im also curious to see where this Nash angle goes
WWTNA Mark
08-14-2011, 10:06 PM
Does anyone remember to add spoiler alert? Infractions should be given.
For what? The PPV is over.
el gabo
08-14-2011, 10:06 PM
i agree. this seems to TOTALLY set up a F4W match. should be interesting.
im also curious to see where this Nash angle goes
Forgot about Rey. Tomorrow he has a WWE title match
IPOOPINTHEBATH
08-14-2011, 10:07 PM
I actually see the title Match tomorrow going to a no contest to set up a fatal 4 way match at NoC. This left me with both a sweet and sour taste. I knew Del Rio would win the title but why do it tonight, especially with the storyline they had going.
This is what I said in the chat as soon as it happened. Quite interesting.
Brewer 314
08-14-2011, 10:08 PM
You were so nice when you came back from being banned. You're starting to slip.
lol ;-)
I better watch it then!
WWTNA Mark
08-14-2011, 10:08 PM
I loved tonight's PPV. CM Punk vs John Cena was freaking amazing. This storyline is just getting interesting.
RagingBallsFTW
08-14-2011, 10:09 PM
i agree. this seems to TOTALLY set up a F4W match. should be interesting.
im also curious to see where this Nash angle goes
I see a Nash vs HHH feud tbh.
Ruthless_Aggression
08-14-2011, 10:09 PM
From a technical perspective, I think their match at MitB was better. But this one was good in its own right and did a good job going in the opposite direction of the spots compared to the MitB one.
Brewer 314
08-14-2011, 10:09 PM
But seriously why did they even bother dragging Kevin Nash into this.
It's not like anybody wants to watch him and his exploding knees feud with C.M Punk.
No_1eddiefan
08-14-2011, 10:09 PM
For all of the criticism he gets, I felt John Cena had a great showing tonight.
The dropkick was a definite highlight, I didn't even know he could jump that high!
Brewer 314
08-14-2011, 10:10 PM
I see a Nash vs HHH feud tbh.
I hope not. Maybe Nash is going to end up being revealed as Vince McMahon's hired gun or something.
North Vegas Benny
08-14-2011, 10:11 PM
I see a Nash vs HHH feud tbh.
Me too, but I want to also see CM Punk confront him for screwing him out of the belt.
thetheme
08-14-2011, 10:11 PM
Del Rio WWE champion! I may have to start watching again. Just hope he doesn't get screwed out of the title tomorrow and hope he gets a decent reign. Payback for Punk, Cena gets screwed, and no miz in sight of the title.
The Sneakiness
08-14-2011, 10:11 PM
Punk's momentum just got jacknifed. Congrats WWE on screwing up yet again.
The next big screwup is putting the belt on Del Rio. Someone mentioned he needs to be champ going to Mexico... if thats the case then why isn't Rey the champ instead? He is more well known than Del Rio.
Knew I would be disappointed and I wasn't wrong.
Ruthless_Aggression
08-14-2011, 10:14 PM
Wow, John Cena didn't win the title and people still whine...
Daffy Duck's Finest
08-14-2011, 10:14 PM
Punk's momentum just got jacknifed. Congrats WWE on screwing up yet again.
The next big screwup is putting the belt on Del Rio. Someone mentioned he needs to be champ going to Mexico... if thats the case then why isn't Rey the champ instead? He is more well known than Del Rio.
Knew I would be disappointed and I wasn't wrong.
I didn't know San Diego was in Mexico.
el gabo
08-14-2011, 10:15 PM
Where's Mysterio going to fit in all of this?
IPOOPINTHEBATH
08-14-2011, 10:16 PM
Punk's momentum just got jacknifed. Congrats WWE on screwing up yet again.
The next big screwup is putting the belt on Del Rio. Someone mentioned he needs to be champ going to Mexico... if thats the case then why isn't Rey the champ instead? He is more well known than Del Rio.
Knew I would be disappointed and I wasn't wrong.
Because Del Rio is also very well known internationally and is definitely in the "Hero" category in Mexico. Rey is nursing ANOTHER knee injury which is why we got a six man tag instead of Rey/Miz one on one which was supposedly supposed to happen. Just wait until tomorrow to see what's going to happen before you declare Punk's momentum "Jackknifed". Angry Punk is the best IMO, I'm excited for that promo tomorrow.
Brewer 314
08-14-2011, 10:16 PM
Punk's momentum just got jacknifed. Congrats WWE on screwing up yet again.
The next big screwup is putting the belt on Del Rio. Someone mentioned he needs to be champ going to Mexico... if thats the case then why isn't Rey the champ instead? He is more well known than Del Rio.
Knew I would be disappointed and I wasn't wrong.
*facepalm*
ADR > Rey in Mexico
WWTNA Mark
08-14-2011, 10:17 PM
Punk's momentum just got jacknifed. Congrats WWE on screwing up yet again.
The next big screwup is putting the belt on Del Rio. Someone mentioned he needs to be champ going to Mexico... if thats the case then why isn't Rey the champ instead? He is more well known than Del Rio.
Knew I would be disappointed and I wasn't wrong.
That's a positive way of looking at things. :rolleyes:
Lamar8902
08-14-2011, 10:17 PM
WOW REALLY PEOPLE u actually think tonights ppv main event was awesome?? WTF are u guys serious the ending with Punk pinning Cena and his leg in the rope that was the most stupidest ending then Nash comes out and hit Punk and everyone marks out really?? TNA does the same u guys bash them for having a weak ending WWE does it and it's awesome then Punk gets buried by Del Rio WOW what a main event who else is coming Bob Buckland, Scott Hall, KoKo B Ware?? WWE trying to be TNA
Brewer 314
08-14-2011, 10:17 PM
Wow, John Cena didn't win the title and people still whine...
c o s i g n e d
Grind_Bastard
08-14-2011, 10:17 PM
Where's Mysterio going to fit in all of this?
If he's injured, nowhere. He'll have the match and ADR will win with the arm breaker clean, end of story.
AOF666
08-14-2011, 10:19 PM
Kevin Nash getting involve was cool but making Del Rio champ is the worst idea ever! Del Rio is more boring(not sure if it is proper english) than Orton!
Grind_Bastard
08-14-2011, 10:19 PM
Because Del Rio is also very well known internationally and is definitely in the "Hero" category in Mexico. Rey is nursing ANOTHER knee injury which is why we got a six man tag instead of Rey/Miz one on one which was supposedly supposed to happen. Just wait until tomorrow to see what's going to happen before you declare Punk's momentum "Jackknifed". Angry Punk is the best IMO, I'm excited for that promo tomorrow.
Yep, let's hear angry Punk, Raw looks good tomorrow.
WWTNA Mark
08-14-2011, 10:19 PM
Wow, John Cena didn't win the title and people still whine...
People just bitch just to bitch. Its sad really.
helmsley
08-14-2011, 10:19 PM
i think it was a great match and im very very happy to see nash being used again and being in the main event, i think that we can expect a raw full of surprises and a probable cena vs hhh feud
thisiswrestling
08-14-2011, 10:21 PM
What a fucking disappointment. The whole damn PPV was one big waste. Del Rio as champ? I can't watch that crap anymore...I'm done, just done.
RagingBallsFTW
08-14-2011, 10:22 PM
I hope not. Maybe Nash is going to end up being revealed as Vince McMahon's hired gun or something.
Me too, but I want to also see CM Punk confront him for screwing him out of the belt.
Well I see HHH VS Nash feud being just a verbal one while Punk goes after Nash for what he did.
In fact, Punk could "bring" in Cabana and the KoW as back up to make sure this never happens again. And this would be a example to the cause. :D
Jonnybass
08-14-2011, 10:24 PM
What a fucking disappointment. The whole damn PPV was one big waste. Del Rio as champ? I can't watch that crap anymore...I'm done, just done.
might wanna check your sig
**two words for you
;)
sorry lol and umm the PPV was awesome
gutted daniel bryan lost
sheamus through the barrier brutal!
SESAfro
08-14-2011, 10:25 PM
So what if Punk isn't the champ no more?! Be happy that the whole fiasco isn't over yet. /rant
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 10:26 PM
I actually see the title Match tomorrow going to a no contest to set up a fatal 4 way match at NoC. This left me with both a sweet and sour taste. I knew Del Rio would win the title but why do it tonight, especially with the storyline they had going.
IDK with the Nash factor now??? Maybe Triple Threat????
nrb6304
08-14-2011, 10:26 PM
really freaking awesome PPV all around. Even the Henry Sheamus match was great
North Vegas Benny
08-14-2011, 10:29 PM
IDK with the Nash factor now??? Maybe Triple Threat????
I don't think Nash will be in the title picture. I think him and HHH are going to fued now, for Nash not letting the show end ,as HHH said himself before the ppv, the way he wanted it to end.
printz1224
08-14-2011, 10:30 PM
i really REALLY wish i could see what everybody else sees in Del Rio...so far, he's shown me nothing...
nrb6304
08-14-2011, 10:31 PM
i really REALLY wish i could see what everybody else sees in Del Rio...so far, he's shown me nothing...
kinda agree
RagingBallsFTW
08-14-2011, 10:32 PM
i really REALLY wish i could see what everybody else sees in Del Rio...so far, he's shown me nothing...
Yup, I don't see it either. I think WWE just sees him highly now because of the Mexico tour coming up and they groomed his character.
zrdt12
08-14-2011, 10:33 PM
i really REALLY wish i could see what everybody else sees in Del Rio...so far, he's shown me nothing...
WWE is touring Mexico and they want him to have belt to battle Mysterio obviously. He deserves nothing more than this at the moment.
For Nash speculations, isn't Kevin Nash more of a bad guy than Diesel? I'm assuming he's returning either as "staff" with HHH or has his own intentions. With Kane injured, I think we should instead have a Nash+Diesel vs Sin cara and sin cara on some Raw special where everything is messed up for the night or some weird gimmick night like this.
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 10:33 PM
WOW REALLY PEOPLE u actually think tonights ppv main event was awesome?? WTF are u guys serious the ending with Punk pinning Cena and his leg in the rope that was the most stupidest ending then Nash comes out and hit Punk and everyone marks out really?? TNA does the same u guys bash them for having a weak ending WWE does it and it's awesome then Punk gets buried by Del Rio WOW what a main event who else is coming Bob Buckland, Scott Hall, KoKo B Ware?? WWE trying to be TNA
I think it was one of the better endings to a WWE PPV.... Nash coming out and attacking CM Punk nobody didn't think that would happen and why who knows??? Then Del Rio winning the WWE title was and wasn't a surprise after all that happen...
ihearvoices
08-14-2011, 10:35 PM
I think Losing the belt is the best thing to happen to punk because when champ all eyes is automatically on u he needs to keep drawing attention and have people talking about him without the belt now that will be the real test to see if his mainevent status and as one of the top guys in WWE next to Randy and Cena is Legit or just a moment in time
RomanFlare
08-14-2011, 10:35 PM
How I acted when I saw Nash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DgbUBoxa48
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 10:36 PM
I don't think Nash will be in the title picture. I think him and HHH are going to fued now, for Nash not letting the show end ,as HHH said himself before the ppv, the way he wanted it to end.
Not saying Nash going be in the title picture but he could keep Punk out of the picture.... Thus having Cena/Mysterio/Del Rio....
Blinker
08-14-2011, 10:36 PM
I'm not a fan of Del Rio being champ, but guess what? He is and I have no say in it.
Was the ending of the ppv messed up? Yes. I wasn't really a fan of that ending but think of all the possibilities. The match never truly ended. Since the foot was on the ropes, no one won. That still gives us a Punk/Cena feud. HHH screwed up the call. That gives us a Cena/HHH feud. Nash jackknifed Punk and gave us a Nash/Punk feud. Nash interfered in a match that HHH wanted to end cleanly. There's a potential Nash/HHH feud. Del Rio cashes in on a downed Punk. Del Rio/Punk feud. HHH was obviously upset with Del Rio cashing in. HHH/Del Rio Feud.
Now by my count that gives us potential for 6 different feuds. That happened in the last 10 minutes. WOW!! I'm excited to see where any of this goes. Fingers Crossed it goes in a direction that can entertain us all.
Brewer 314
08-14-2011, 10:37 PM
Yup, I don't see it either. I think WWE just sees him highly now because of the Mexico tour coming up and they groomed his character.
Stop that, from day 1 the intention was to make him a top dog.
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 10:40 PM
I'm not a fan of Del Rio being champ, but guess what? He is and I have no say in it.
Was the ending of the ppv messed up? Yes. I wasn't really a fan of that ending but think of all the possibilities. The match never truly ended. Since the foot was on the ropes, no one won. That still gives us a Punk/Cena feud. HHH screwed up the call. That gives us a Cena/HHH feud. Nash jackknifed Punk and gave us a Nash/Punk feud. Nash interfered in a match that HHH wanted to end cleanly. There's a potential Nash/HHH feud. Del Rio cashes in on a downed Punk. Del Rio/Punk feud. HHH was obviously upset with Del Rio cashing in. HHH/Del Rio Feud.
Now by my count that gives us potential for 6 different feuds. That happened in the last 10 minutes. WOW!! I'm excited to see where any of this goes. Fingers Crossed it goes in a direction that can entertain us all.
The problem with 6 different feuds.... It might get confusing for the PG audience to keep up with at the end of the day!!!
Mtt08 xXx
08-14-2011, 10:40 PM
I'm not a fan of Del Rio being champ, but guess what? He is and I have no say in it.
Was the ending of the ppv messed up? Yes. I wasn't really a fan of that ending but think of all the possibilities. The match never truly ended. Since the foot was on the ropes, no one won. That still gives us a Punk/Cena feud. HHH screwed up the call. That gives us a Cena/HHH feud. Nash jackknifed Punk and gave us a Nash/Punk feud. Nash interfered in a match that HHH wanted to end cleanly. There's a potential Nash/HHH feud. Del Rio cashes in on a downed Punk. Del Rio/Punk feud. HHH was obviously upset with Del Rio cashing in. HHH/Del Rio Feud.
Now by my count that gives us potential for 6 different feuds. That happened in the last 10 minutes. WOW!! I'm excited to see where any of this goes. Fingers Crossed it goes in a direction that can entertain us all.
to everyone complaining, read this post and wait to see what happens.
Daffy Duck's Finest
08-14-2011, 10:40 PM
How I acted when I saw Nash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DgbUBoxa48
I seriously just lol'd at that one!
As for Del Rio, I must be the only guy to like him on here. Yes he's not title worthy yet, but I do believe he will grow his heel persona during this run. Personally I think he's the guy with the most heat on him right now on Raw, as Miz, Truth and Ziggler have their fans.
Grind_Bastard
08-14-2011, 10:41 PM
Now by my count that gives us potential for 6 different feuds. That happened in the last 10 minutes. WOW!! I'm excited to see where any of this goes. Fingers Crossed it goes in a direction that can entertain us all.
You are too optimistic here. And I'm not talking about WWE creative :p
Kerrastone
08-14-2011, 10:41 PM
I noticed that!
Maybe they'll make a Diesel vs. Kevin Nash feud after the Sin Cara-Sin Cara feud...
Sin cara is in a mask so anyone can be him and therefore allow two people to be sin cara. Hence the feud. How can they have a diesel vs Kevin Nash feud if they are both the same person?!!?!?!? Wrestles himself?
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 10:41 PM
i really REALLY wish i could see what everybody else sees in Del Rio...so far, he's shown me nothing...
Del Rio is WWE mixed up stars from the past.... Million dollar Man/JBL/Eddie Gurrero all rolled into one....
Grind_Bastard
08-14-2011, 10:44 PM
Sin cara is in a mask so anyone can be him and therefore allow two people to be sin cara. Hence the feud. How can they have a diesel vs Kevin Nash feud if they are both the same person?!!?!?!? Wrestles himself?
As I said, bring back Kane as Fake Diesel LOL
broc808
08-14-2011, 10:45 PM
im gonna say this i honestly dont think del rio fits in here with punk nash and cena he just seems out of place
Bob Lion54
08-14-2011, 10:45 PM
I quite enjoyed the whole show, quite honestly. Biggest surprise had to be Kelly Kelly not only winning, but actually having a pretty good match. I think most of the Divas can have good matches when given the chance, though too often WWE seems to just want them to go out for a few minutes as eye candy.
Anyway, as far as Punk/Cena, I loved the match. Well wrestled by both guys and I loved the part where HHH threw them both back into the ring. Just a nice little mini-twist, so to speak. I usually don't like the controversial finishes because WWE did them so much during the Attitude Era that it just made them not nearly as controversial. They really lost their impact for me, but in this case, with Del Rio thrown in, I think it worked well.
Speaking of Del Rio... I'm not really a big fan of his. It's nice to see another guy with the Championship, but... I just find him rather bland. I can't deny he's decent on the mic and in the ring, but he just doesn't do anything for me. Maybe it's just his routine more than his actual abilities... meh. I'd like to see him make a face turn, though. Maybe with the Mexico tour, it's possible. Perhaps change him to be more like the "I don't always drink beer, but when I do..." guy, and generally talk to the crown about joining him in the "high life" and such. I doubt it will happen, but I might actually like the guy then.
Nash was a surprise. I doubt much will come of his involvement, though. He's pretty well established to be all about the money from his WCW days and then TNA. Del Rio being the "rich guy" seems most likely to have paid him to make sure the winner of Punk/Cena was out. We might see him Monday night explaining his actions, or Del Rio might just say he paid him. Either way, I doubt we'll see much more of Nash, but who knows.
Blinker
08-14-2011, 10:45 PM
You are too optimistic here. And I'm not talking about WWE creative :p
I am, but if I think of all the things they can do to ruin it, I'll probably stop watching all together.
IPOOPINTHEBATH
08-14-2011, 10:45 PM
The problem with 6 different feuds.... It might get confusing for the PG audience to keep up with at the end of the day!!!
PG doesn't have to determine intellect level. I really wish people would shut up about PG completely, especially now that they're proving they can do good stories within it's confines. There's no reason to pay attention to it anymore. Just shut up about it.
Brewer 314
08-14-2011, 10:48 PM
PG doesn't have to determine intellect level. I really wish people would shut up about PG completely, especially now that they're proving they can do good stories within it's confines. There's no reason to pay attention to it anymore. Just shut up about it.
Right,
half of the "Attitude Era" was in PG
printz1224
08-14-2011, 10:48 PM
IMO, eventually someone should lose when they cash in MITB, to add some spontaneity and legitimacy to it. And I was hoping that someone would be ADR, because he's one of the most boring characters on the roster. Much rather see him lose it than Daniel Bryan.
Grind_Bastard
08-14-2011, 10:48 PM
I am, but if I think of all the things they can do to ruin it, I'll probably stop watching all together.
Fair point. But I was aiming at those complaining all time about the product.
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 10:51 PM
PG doesn't have to determine intellect level. I really wish people would shut up about PG completely, especially now that they're proving they can do good stories within it's confines. There's no reason to pay attention to it anymore. Just shut up about it.
True it don't have nothing to do on intellect level.... Just saying it might confuse some of the kids...
One would have to think this is a way to turn CM Punk into a legit face....
Fan4Now
08-14-2011, 10:51 PM
I somewhat agree with Lamar4982. If TNA did this alot of you would be "Oh what a crappy finish. Same old shit". A man everyone bashed for still wrestling in TNA 2 yrs ago. Oh he can't move. Now all of a sudden he's back on & threw himself in the main event & ppl are actually thinking/hoping for a F4Way? Let's put Nash back in TNA vs Angle/Anderson/Sting (who can still move) "Oh why Nash is in that? He's washed up. Too old. Can't move." WWE does Nash vs Punk/Cena/Del Rio. "Yay!"?? WTF! Most important Punk lost due to Nash interfering & HHH acting confused? BS! Watch sooner or later Nash is WWE Champ! Don't think? Age= Undertaker//Can't wrestle=Cena/Batista. I'm always outspoken on I like HHH as a wrestler/promo but his politics are well known & if there's 1 other guy I'd put in that same level it's NASH! He was booker in WCW & he booked himself to win the title from Goldberg (Who I'm not big on) but still on Best of WCW dvd Mike whatever his name is said: "Nash didn't want anyone bigger than him!" They make up for it by winning 99% of the time. Nash as WWE Champ=Hogan as TNA Champ to me! What Hogan's washed up? Too old? Too conceited? Drunk with influence? Buddies with the bosses? NASH is ALL THE SAME!!
Oh if someone says: "Dude they didn't announce a F4W yet." I know but Nash is most likely gonna wrestle for this. I been hearing from 90% of U all: "Hogan. Stay out of the ring!" for reasons above. I feel the same about Nash! Just like Hogan he's 1) Money hungary 2) Politics 3) Too old 4) washed up 5) Can't move. I don't care if Hulk had 10 back surgeries. Nash is in no better shape. Keep them both out the ring. It was nostalgic seeing him in the rumble a little bit but now it's gonna be the Hogan of WWE!
I'm fine with hate & criticisms but most of U who will probably bash for this. BASH YOURSELFS TOO!! B/c you've been complaining the same thing for yrs!
Lamar8902
08-14-2011, 10:51 PM
I think it was one of the better endings to a WWE PPV.... Nash coming out and attacking CM Punk nobody didn't think that would happen and why who knows??? Then Del Rio winning the WWE title was and wasn't a surprise after all that happen...
Yea that's my point TNA has an ending like that and u people bash TNA for doing it but WWE does it and the greatest ending ever rite??
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 10:52 PM
Another thing anyone complaining about Del Rio, you going probably have to live with him being champ or in the title picture through at least October when the WWE goes on the Mexico tour....
dmt4life
08-14-2011, 10:53 PM
I am really surprise no one has come up with this yet
Triple H's New Corperation
everything tonight was a set up, HHH wanted neither Punk nor Cena as champion, so this was all ochestrated by Steph *explaining her involvement at the ppv*, once the match was over, secretly HHH had Nash hired to hit the ring and take out the winner, and then ADR come out and cash in his mitb to become champion
Corp members instantly are:
Stephanie
HHH
ADR
Kevin Nash
with Mason Ryan rumored to return in a body guard position, he gets added to the mix as well
now thats a stable story line
Blinker
08-14-2011, 10:53 PM
Fair point. But I was aiming at those complaining all time about the product.
Touche sir.
helmsley
08-14-2011, 10:56 PM
I am really surprise no one has come up with this yet
Triple H's New Corperation
everything tonight was a set up, HHH wanted neither Punk nor Cena as champion, so this was all ochestrated by Steph *explaining her involvement at the ppv*, once the match was over, secretly HHH had Nash hired to hit the ring and take out the winner, and then ADR come out and cash in his mitb to become champion
Corp members instantly are:
Stephanie
HHH
ADR
Kevin Nash
with Mason Ryan rumored to return in a body guard position, he gets added to the mix as well
now thats a stable story line
i think its a wonderful idea and i hope that it happens
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 10:56 PM
Yea that's my point TNA has an ending like that and u people bash TNA for doing it but WWE does it and the greatest ending ever rite??
I don't bash either one.... May mock fun of them once in a while... for certain things.... It good to have controversial endings to build on to the storyline...
SESAfro
08-14-2011, 10:57 PM
I somewhat agree with Lamar4982. If TNA did this alot of you would be "Oh what a crappy finish. Same old shit". A man everyone bashed for still wrestling in TNA 2 yrs ago. Oh he can't move. Now all of a sudden he's back on & threw himself in the main event & ppl are actually thinking/hoping for a F4Way? Let's put Nash back in TNA vs Angle/Anderson/Sting (who can still move) "Oh why Nash is in that? He's washed up. Too old. Can't move." WWE does Nash vs Punk/Cena/Del Rio. "Yay!"?? WTF! Most important Punk lost due to Nash interfering & HHH acting confused? BS! Watch sooner or later Nash is WWE Champ! Don't think? Age= Undertaker//Can't wrestle=Cena/Batista. I'm always outspoken on I like HHH as a wrestler/promo but his politics are well known & if there's 1 other guy I'd put in that same level it's NASH! He was booker in WCW & he booked himself to win the title from Goldberg (Who I'm not big on) but still on Best of WCW dvd Mike whatever his name is said: "Nash didn't want anyone bigger than him!" They make up for it by winning 99% of the time. Nash as WWE Champ=Hogan as TNA Champ to me! What Hogan's washed up? Too old? Too conceited? Drunk with influence? Buddies with the bosses? NASH is ALL THE SAME!!
Oh if someone says: "Dude they didn't announce a F4W yet." I know but Nash is most likely gonna wrestle for this. I been hearing from 90% of U all: "Hogan. Stay out of the ring!" for reasons above. I feel the same about Nash! Just like Hogan he's 1) Money hungary 2) Politics 3) Too old 4) washed up 5) Can't move. I don't care if Hulk had 10 back surgeries. Nash is in no better shape. Keep them both out the ring. It was nostalgic seeing him in the rumble a little bit but now it's gonna be the Hogan of WWE!
I'm fine with hate & criticisms but most of U who will probably bash for this. BASH YOURSELFS TOO!! B/c you've been complaining the same thing for yrs!
Woot! Agreed. The old people should stay out of the ring AT ALL COSTS!
Brewer 314
08-14-2011, 10:57 PM
I am really surprise no one has come up with this yet
Triple H's New Corperation
everything tonight was a set up, HHH wanted neither Punk nor Cena as champion, so this was all ochestrated by Steph *explaining her involvement at the ppv*, once the match was over, secretly HHH had Nash hired to hit the ring and take out the winner, and then ADR come out and cash in his mitb to become champion
Corp members instantly are:
Stephanie
HHH
ADR
Kevin Nash
with Mason Ryan rumored to return in a body guard position, he gets added to the mix as well
now thats a stable story line
I can see that.
Then you'll have Vince back in the mix with his own little corporation feuding for the company.
IPOOPINTHEBATH
08-14-2011, 10:59 PM
I somewhat agree with Lamar4982. If TNA did this alot of you would be "Oh what a crappy finish. Same old shit". A man everyone bashed for still wrestling in TNA 2 yrs ago. Oh he can't move. Now all of a sudden he's back on & threw himself in the main event & ppl are actually thinking/hoping for a F4Way? Let's put Nash back in TNA vs Angle/Anderson/Sting (who can still move) "Oh why Nash is in that? He's washed up. Too old. Can't move." WWE does Nash vs Punk/Cena/Del Rio. "Yay!"?? WTF! Most important Punk lost due to Nash interfering & HHH acting confused? BS! Watch sooner or later Nash is WWE Champ! Don't think? Age= Undertaker//Can't wrestle=Cena/Batista. I'm always outspoken on I like HHH as a wrestler/promo but his politics are well known & if there's 1 other guy I'd put in that same level it's NASH! He was booker in WCW & he booked himself to win the title from Goldberg (Who I'm not big on) but still on Best of WCW dvd Mike whatever his name is said: "Nash didn't want anyone bigger than him!" They make up for it by winning 99% of the time. Nash as WWE Champ=Hogan as TNA Champ to me! What Hogan's washed up? Too old? Too conceited? Drunk with influence? Buddies with the bosses? NASH is ALL THE SAME!!
Oh if someone says: "Dude they didn't announce a F4W yet." I know but Nash is most likely gonna wrestle for this. I been hearing from 90% of U all: "Hogan. Stay out of the ring!" for reasons above. I feel the same about Nash! Just like Hogan he's 1) Money hungary 2) Politics 3) Too old 4) washed up 5) Can't move. I don't care if Hulk had 10 back surgeries. Nash is in no better shape. Keep them both out the ring. It was nostalgic seeing him in the rumble a little bit but now it's gonna be the Hogan of WWE!
I'm fine with hate & criticisms but most of U who will probably bash for this. BASH YOURSELFS TOO!! B/c you've been complaining the same thing for yrs!
I think you're misunderstanding. No one is thinking NASH will be in a FFW match. It'd be Punk/Cena/Rey/Del Rio.
zrdt12
08-14-2011, 10:59 PM
I'm almost convinced that the way HHH reacted after Nash attacked Punk that he didn't expect this. This is why I think Del Rio purely paid Nash off to do this. But I'm usually 99% wrong.
SESAfro
08-14-2011, 10:59 PM
I can see that.
Then you'll have Vince back in the mix with his own little corporation feuding for the company.
Or have Punk and Cena join forces to combat them.
zrdt12
08-14-2011, 11:02 PM
Just throwing it out there, what if The Rock joins this talked about corporation... Then I could see Punk and Cena.. and to take a swerve even the Miz feuding against them.
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 11:02 PM
A company or sport or wrestling have to have a mix of old and established and new guys..... If we didn't or don't have a clash of personalities or styles..... we get the same old same old... which gets boring after a while...
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 11:04 PM
I'm almost convinced that the way HHH reacted after Nash attacked Punk that he didn't expect this. This is why I think Del Rio purely paid Nash off to do this. But I'm usually 99% wrong.
Hunter could had played it to be that way.... Notice how long he kept Punks armed raised....
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 11:06 PM
I think you're misunderstanding. No one is thinking NASH will be in a FFW match. It'd be Punk/Cena/Rey/Del Rio.
I don't think it will be a Fatal 4 way... thinking more Triple Threat myself.... minus Punk who will be in a feud with Nash..
zrdt12
08-14-2011, 11:08 PM
Hunter could had played it to be that way.... Notice how long he kept Punks armed raised....
it's true it could have been played.. but common sense says that Nash wouldn't then quickly leave through the crowd and acknowledge HHH a little. I felt something phony was up but it could have just been booked to not look suspicious.
Mtt08 xXx
08-14-2011, 11:09 PM
I don't think it will be a Fatal 4 way... thinking more Triple Threat myself.... minus Punk who will be in a feud with Nash..
i can see it being triple threat only because Rey is hurt. I either see a HHH v. Nash, or HHH joining Nash to continue fueding with both punk and cena.
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 11:12 PM
it's true it could have been played.. but common sense says that Nash wouldn't then quickly leave through the crowd and acknowledge HHH a little. I felt something phony was up but it could have just been booked to not look suspicious.
Hunter over reacted to make it look like he was concerned....
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 11:14 PM
i can see it being triple threat only because Rey is hurt. I either see a HHH v. Nash, or HHH joining Nash to continue fueding with both punk and cena.
Hopefully some answers will be made clear tomorrow/tonight..... But with the WWE they'll drag it out a week before they make the WWE official for Night of Champions...
AlexWorldOrder
08-14-2011, 11:15 PM
Why would ADR (who's suppose to be rich) pay an old fart to be his body guard? His announcer could kick Nash's ass.
zrdt12
08-14-2011, 11:17 PM
Why would ADR (who's suppose to be rich) pay an old fart to be his body guard? His announcer could kick Nash's ass.
Yeah but Ricardo would have needed to run Punk over with a car and the space wasn't there. Good to be unpredictable too.
Lamar8902
08-14-2011, 11:21 PM
I don't bash either one.... May mock fun of them once in a while... for certain things.... It good to have controversial endings to build on to the storyline...
I didn't say u do but like u said u like what wwe did with the ending TNA does it and they get ripped for it just saying
Bralon23
08-14-2011, 11:22 PM
I think people are confusing the WCW/TNA Nash character to the one that's been in WWE. The reason we're excited about his return to WWE is because we know that he'll be used the way an old veteran wrestler is supposed to be used. I don't expect Nash to be vaulted into the main event as a wrestler, but as an enforcer of some sorts. WWE won't just allow him to create his own rules and terms, which means maybe hardly, if any wrestling from him and no title reigns for sure. He's a legend in the business and we never suspected that WWE would use him the way they did tonight, which is another reason why we're excited about this return. There's a reason the WWE is still the number one wrestling company in the industry and a reason why we keep watching. Stop doubting their abilities to entertain us and don't compare it to that waste of a product on Spike TV.
zrdt12
08-14-2011, 11:28 PM
I think people are confusing the WCW/TNA Nash character to the one that's been in WWE. The reason we're excited about his return to WWE is because we know that he'll be used the way an old veteran wrestler is supposed to be used. I don't expect Nash to be vaulted into the main event as a wrestler, but as an enforcer of some sorts. WWE won't just allow him to create his own rules and terms, which means maybe hardly, if any wrestling from him and no title reigns for sure. He's a legend in the business and we never suspected that WWE would use him the way they did tonight, which is another reason why we're excited about this return. There's a reason the WWE is still the number one wrestling company in the industry and a reason why we keep watching. Stop doubting their abilities to entertain us and don't compare it to that waste of a product on Spike TV.
Well put. This sums up Nash controversy
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 11:30 PM
I think people are confusing the WCW/TNA Nash character to the one that's been in WWE. The reason we're excited about his return to WWE is because we know that he'll be used the way an old veteran wrestler is supposed to be used. I don't expect Nash to be vaulted into the main event as a wrestler, but as an enforcer of some sorts. WWE won't just allow him to create his own rules and terms, which means maybe hardly, if any wrestling from him and no title reigns for sure. He's a legend in the business and we never suspected that WWE would use him the way they did tonight, which is another reason why we're excited about this return. There's a reason the WWE is still the number one wrestling company in the industry and a reason why we keep watching. Stop doubting their abilities to entertain us and don't compare it to that waste of a product on Spike TV.
More TNA bashing.... why can't some people enjoy the product of all wrestling companies and not bash one or the other... Nothing wrong with joking around once in while but bashing isn't going to make one go away or stay....
IrkenInvader
08-14-2011, 11:32 PM
You mean to tell me Nash took more than 5 steps in the ring and didn't tear a quad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1QCBF3h_tM
daniel bryan mark
08-14-2011, 11:33 PM
The ending of that match was such a swerve, Vince Russo was thinking, "Damn, I didn't see that coming!"
IrkenInvader
08-14-2011, 11:34 PM
The ending of that match was such a swerve, Vince Russo was thinking, "Damn, I didn't see that coming!"
The only thing Russo can see coming is his next bowel movement.
Lamar8902
08-14-2011, 11:40 PM
The ending of that match was such a swerve, Vince Russo was thinking, "Damn, I didn't see that coming!"
Actually Russo gave the WWE the idea
Bralon23
08-14-2011, 11:42 PM
More TNA bashing.... why can't some people enjoy the product of all wrestling companies and not bash one or the other... Nothing wrong with joking around once in while but bashing isn't going to make one go away or stay....
I honestly can't enjoy the product of all wrestling because TNA sucks. I tried and I wanted it to be good, but it's not and I'm a for all wrestling type of guy. It's just bad now. Sorry, but that's the truth.
HCollins-TNA1
08-14-2011, 11:44 PM
I honestly can't enjoy the product of all wrestling because TNA sucks. I tried and I wanted it to be good, but it's not and I'm a for all wrestling type of guy. It's just bad now. Sorry, but that's the truth.
If you don't like or watch it don't bash it...
tshizzy34
08-14-2011, 11:45 PM
The ADR becoming champ thing just imo ruined the entire buildup that Punk had going, and Nash coming in was insanely unexpected, but now what becomes of Punk I wonder.
AlexWorldOrder
08-15-2011, 12:21 AM
If you don't like or watch it don't bash it...
They don't actually watch it, they just bash it. Just let it go, and laugh at it, man. Let me give you an example..
A senseless TNA basher is rich brat. He is engaged to TNA's ex gf. He only knows tna by name, although he has seen his broke ass a few times. He has to hear his gf's constant complains about how broke TNA was, but at night.. She mentions how big TNA's dick is.. And calls him TNA when they have sex. Now, all he can do is bash
to make sure that everyone knows TNA is bad, and that nobody should get to know TNA. Yet, he barely knows TNa, and only hates him because he has a bigger dick.
Nah mean?
Lamar8902
08-15-2011, 12:27 AM
They don't actually watch it, they just bash it. Just let it go, and laugh at it, man. Let me give you an example..
A senseless TNA basher is rich brat. He is engaged to TNA's ex gf. He only knows tna by name, although he has seen his broke ass a few times. He has to hear his gf's constant complains about how broke TNA was, but at night.. She mentions how big TNA's dick is.. And calls him TNA when they have sex. Now, all he can do is bash
to make sure that everyone knows TNA is bad, and that nobody should get to know TNA. Yet, he barely knows TNa, and only
hates him because he has a bigger dick.
Nah mean?
Hahaha u sir are hilarious!!!
Bralon23
08-15-2011, 12:29 AM
They don't actually watch it, they just bash it. Just let it go, and laugh at it, man. Let me give you an example..
A senseless TNA basher is rich brat. He is engaged to TNA's ex gf. He only knows tna by name, although he has seen his broke ass a few times. He has to hear his gf's constant complains about how broke TNA was, but at night.. She mentions how big TNA's dick is.. And calls him TNA when they have sex. Now, all he can do is bash
to make sure that everyone knows TNA is bad, and that nobody should get to know TNA. Yet, he barely knows TNa, and only hates him because he has a bigger dick.
Nah mean?
That's actually probably the worst comparison to a situation that I've ever seen. I don't understand what a "bigger dick" has to do with anything that was mentioned in the previous 13 pages of comments. Stop bringing your personal life into the conversations...Faggot
HCollins-TNA1
08-15-2011, 12:36 AM
They don't actually watch it, they just bash it. Just let it go, and laugh at it, man. Let me give you an example..
A senseless TNA basher is rich brat. He is engaged to TNA's ex gf. He only knows tna by name, although he has seen his broke ass a few times. He has to hear his gf's constant complains about how broke TNA was, but at night.. She mentions how big TNA's dick is.. And calls him TNA when they have sex. Now, all he can do is bash
to make sure that everyone knows TNA is bad, and that nobody should get to know TNA. Yet, he barely knows TNa, and only hates him because he has a bigger dick.
Nah mean?
Funny example.....LOL
Myself I would rather say WWE is the girl everyone dates.... But never gets lucky with unless they popular or overly popular...
Then TNA is the mysterious Girl next door, everyone think they know, but she can get wild every now and then....
THE_CRIPPLER
08-15-2011, 12:43 AM
Funny example.....LOL
Myself I would rather say WWE is the girl everyone dates.... But never gets lucky with unless they popular or overly popular...
Then TNA is the mysterious Girl next door, everyone think they know, but she can get wild every now and then....
why are we comparing multi million dollar and multi billion dollar companies to ex boyfriends with bigger dicks and slutty girl next door?
Bralon23
08-15-2011, 12:46 AM
why are we comparing multi million dollar and multi billion dollar companies to ex boyfriends with bigger dicks and slutty girl next door?
My thoughts exactly
HCollins-TNA1
08-15-2011, 12:46 AM
why are we comparing multi million dollar and multi billion dollar companies to ex boyfriends with bigger dicks and slutty girl next door?
Both are actually Multi Million Dollar Companies...
WWE is far off from being a billion dollar company like they once was....
You try comparing it with real life..... see if you can do better???
THE_CRIPPLER
08-15-2011, 12:54 AM
Both are actually Multi Million Dollar Companies...
WWE is far off from being a billion dollar company like they once was....
You try comparing it with real life..... see if you can do better???
Ok.... WWE is like Mr Krabs and the Krusty Krab, he has well known product that is popular, some times Mr Krabs (vince Mcmahon) get too greedy and the product becomes stale and over priced, but its still the number 1 restaunt in bikni bottom and he gives the customers what they want.
TNA is like plankton, He is so consumed with putting The Krusty Krab out of bussiness that he doesnt pay attention to running his own restaunt and instead of creating something that can be a alternative to the Krusty Krab he is more obsessed with stealing there recipe and formula (talent and storylines) then to come up with something new that stands out.
HCollins-TNA1
08-15-2011, 01:04 AM
Ok.... WWE is like Mr Krabs and the Krusty Krab, he has well known product that is popular, some times Mr Krabs (vince Mcmahon) get too greedy and the product becomes stale and over priced, but its still the number 1 restaunt in bikni bottom and he gives the customers what they want.
TNA is like plankton, He is so consumed with putting The Krusty Krab out of bussiness that he doesnt pay attention to running his own restaunt and instead of creating something that can be a alternative to the Krusty Krab he is more obsessed with stealing there recipe and formula (talent and storylines) then to come up with something new that stands out.
Good one..... only thing is TNA does pay attention.... more then most give credit for.........
Now back to the topic at hand....
Usually one or the other answer the other somehow...
Nash surprising everyone and attacking CM Punk.... With TNA taping live on the road next week wonder what if any surprise they have for the taping????
But keeping it WWE topic no one seen Nash coming... I think it was questionable having Del Rio cash in MITB with the Mexico tour being 2 months away.... guess time will tell what will happen next...
THE_CRIPPLER
08-15-2011, 01:13 AM
Good one..... only thing is TNA does pay attention.... more then most give credit for.........
Now back to the topic at hand....
Nash surprising everyone and attacking CM Punk.... With TNA taping live on the road next week wonder what if any surprise they have for the taping????
Lets see, they have Given the title to Anderson... hot shotted it over to Sting, then gave him a new gimmick, had him feud with a crippled Hulk Hogan, Jobbed Anderson out.. Then Had Sting Drop the title to Angle, Turned Angle Heel, then aligned him With Hogan who is also alinged with jef Jarett who Angle suppose to hate...... there is so many face and heel turns in TNA its hard to keep up and they dont have a direction for the company at all.... no they are not paying attention, if they were they wouldnt give a the drugged out Jeff Hardy who is facing Years in prison a world title run and give him his own custom belt and push him even though he was passed out before almost every ppv TNA had......... nope not paying attention.
Bralon23
08-15-2011, 01:14 AM
Finally someone else is making sense. Thank you @THE_CRIPPLER
HCollins-TNA1
08-15-2011, 01:20 AM
Lets see, they have Given the title to Anderson... hot shotted it over to Sting, then gave him a new gimmick, had him feud with a crippled Hulk Hogan, Jobbed Anderson out.. Then Had Sting Drop the title to Angle, Turned Angle Heel, then aligned him With Hogan who is also alinged with jef Jarett who Angle suppose to hate...... there is so many face and heel turns in TNA its hard to keep up and they dont have a direction for the company at all.... no they are not paying attention, if they were they wouldnt give a the drugged out Jeff Hardy who is facing Years in prison a world title run and give him his own custom belt and push him even though he was passed out before almost every ppv TNA had......... nope not paying attention.
Several things....
1st Hardy isn't facing years in prison, most likely it will be a slap on the wrist judging how the case has went.....
And they are paying attention.... Sting reinvented his character, Angle wrestling better as ever, the Anderson vs Bully Ray feud... then Double J and his love for Mexico... No matter what Hogan going be involved in any company he is in crippled or not...
Obviously you are not paying attention....
maar13
08-15-2011, 01:32 AM
I am just happy the match was cool, Punk won the match and Cena still looked stronger in defeat. Do you know that in the last 5 one on one matches Cena had with Punk he has lost them all? So really doesn't matter what happened at the end, the match was good.
Actually the entire PPV as good. My preditions sucked but the PPV was good and I am happy about it.
THE_CRIPPLER
08-15-2011, 01:53 AM
Several things....
1st Hardy isn't facing years in prison, most likely it will be a slap on the wrist judging how the case has went.....
And they are paying attention.... Sting reinvented his character, Angle wrestling better as ever, the Anderson vs Bully Ray feud... then Double J and his love for Mexico... No matter what Hogan going be involved in any company he is in crippled or not...
Obviously you are not paying attention....
Number 1 i said Facing...I Dont know the punishment he will recieve neither do you, but still it was a horrible mistake to put your company in his hands and give him a world title, Not to mention he was passed out and unable to wrestle before a few PPV Main events... if you dont think the Whole Hardy situation was a dumb move then you are blind by your love for TNA.
2. You give Anderson who is suppose to be the future of your company 2 world titles regins that last barley 1 month? Then Job him out to Bubba Ray Dudley?, its stupid..... TNAs product is in the toilet, they make terrible decissions, will hire anyone reguardless how dangerous it is for their employees or the person they are hirring (Desmon Wolf, Jeff and Matt Hardy). they have out of shape wrestlers fighting with old over the hill wrestlers for their compitions HOF ring that gives you magical powers? there is no defending none of this..... if you really wanna defend TNAs product, why dont you accept the crap that is crap and dont try to defend it... and mention the good instead of telling us how great TNA is for swithing heels and faces so much that the wrestlers their self cant keep up or how TNA talent fight for WWE HOF rings for magic powers.
THE_CRIPPLER
08-15-2011, 02:13 AM
Finally someone else is making sense. Thank you @THE_CRIPPLER
You know im all for debating which company and wrestlers are better but when someone makes such a stupid comparison I just freeze and try to prevent my self from having a seziure......... We as wrestling fans Tell WWE to hate TNA and then while we watch WWE we moan TNA and pretend we are watching TNA? it makes no sence.
But then again i never been in the predictiments these men have wrote as comparison, but oh well either way its mind numbing stupid and maybe one of the dumbest things i ever seen written.
WPack911
08-15-2011, 02:19 AM
Jesus, one of my all time favorite wrestlers screws my current favorite out of no where and then a guy who while I think is decent wins the title, but way to soon IMO, WTF!?
I thought that ADR might cash it in at SS sure, but not like that. I mean first they kind of made CM Punk look like shit by having him "win" with Cena's foot on the rope then they smash him with a Kevin Nash Jackknife Power Bomb and then they have him lose the title to ADR, I mean damn talk about destroying him on every level.
I think ADR's reign will last through WWE's Mexican tour (which is in October right?) and I am hoping that Kevin Nash's role is either ADR body guard (which is most likely I guess) or that he came back because he was pissed that CM Punk was changing wrestling the same way he Hall and Hogan did when they started the NWO.
This really puts me a wrestling fan bind, I mean Kevin Nash is one of my all time favorite wrestlers, (let's just say my name is not WPack911 for nothing, Wolfpack 4-Life baby) but CM Punk is my favorite wrestler of this era, so it makes it hard to root against either. I most likely will root for Punk since this is his time, but man it's gonna be hard to root against Nash. I almost hope he is just ADR's tool of destruction, that would make it more easy to root against him then if he started talking about NWO and all.
I just wish they would have given Punk a proper title reign instead of him being one of two WWE champions the whole time he was back on TV. I mean of course we all know he was the true champ, but I just think it kind of cheapened it. I wish they would have waited till NoC to do this. :/
Well if their intend was to make me wonder what will happen on Raw tomorrow they did their job. My predictions are that ADR starts the show, introduces Nash as his body guard, CM Punk comes down to attack them, HHH comes out to get order, Cena comes out to complain about losing the title with his foot on the rope. HHH makes a triple threat match for NoC, however you also have to take into account the Mysterio title rematch, that might slow the match being made down a week, but we will get some answers tomorrow for sure at least.
I really hope they are not stupid enough to bury Punk now that they have him signed, you want ADR as champ in Mexico that bad fine, but CM Punk better get another WWE title run soon after and if you are smart he should have the title at WM28 also since Rock/Cena is big enough without the belt, that is all I have to say. :/
HCollins-TNA1
08-15-2011, 02:29 AM
Number 1 i said Facing...I Dont know the punishment he will recieve neither do you, but still it was a horrible mistake to put your company in his hands and give him a world title, Not to mention he was passed out and unable to wrestle before a few PPV Main events... if you dont think the Whole Hardy situation was a dumb move then you are blind by your love for TNA.
2. You give Anderson who is suppose to be the future of your company 2 world titles regins that last barley 1 month? Then Job him out to Bubba Ray Dudley?, its stupid..... TNAs product is in the toilet, they make terrible decissions, will hire anyone reguardless how dangerous it is for their employees or the person they are hirring (Desmon Wolf, Jeff and Matt Hardy). they have out of shape wrestlers fighting with old over the hill wrestlers for their compitions HOF ring that gives you magical powers? there is no defending none of this..... if you really wanna defend TNAs product, why dont you accept the crap that is crap and dont try to defend it... and mention the good instead of telling us how great TNA is for swithing heels and faces so much that the wrestlers their self cant keep up or how TNA talent fight for WWE HOF rings for magic powers.
Agree with the J Hardy statement.. we don't know what his fate is... but judging from most drug cases it usually a slap on the wrist...
Why is it everyone looks at the negative side of TNA..... Rarely do you find someone commending TNA.... several times I have only seen it on here... the Lockdown PPV and the Destination X 2011...
As a wrestling fan I try not to look to far ahead, or at the bad or good or so on.... I try to enjoy the product no matter how little sense it makes... both or all wrestling companies has it faults some more then others....
Late here and gotta work in the AM ... so calling it a night most likely..
AreYaSerious
08-15-2011, 02:44 AM
Total bullshit. I hate Alberto Del Rio. Wtf Kevin Nash, he needs to gtfo, that was complete bullshit. Horrible ppv. HORRIBLE, I don't mind ADR cashing it in, but not like that. It made Cena look good, and Punk look bad, then Punk can't even redeem himself now. I hope Mysterio wins the title, cause I cannot stand ADR. He makes me sick.
WPack911
08-15-2011, 02:48 AM
I am really surprise no one has come up with this yet
Triple H's New Corperation
everything tonight was a set up, HHH wanted neither Punk nor Cena as champion, so this was all ochestrated by Steph *explaining her involvement at the ppv*, once the match was over, secretly HHH had Nash hired to hit the ring and take out the winner, and then ADR come out and cash in his mitb to become champion
Corp members instantly are:
Stephanie
HHH
ADR
Kevin Nash
with Mason Ryan rumored to return in a body guard position, he gets added to the mix as well
now thats a stable story line
I can see this, and I guess it would be pretty cool. Except what does that do to Punk /Cena, push them together to fight them off? That would be so LAME and would just seem like a way to try and get core fans to like Cena.
If they fight them off separate fine, or if CM Punk forms C4, KoW or the "Cult of personality" to fight them off fine, but I don't want to see Cena and Punk getting buddy buddy. That would just be a slap in the face to the core fans that have wanted someone like Punk to knock him off his perch for so long.
The Awesome One
08-15-2011, 04:56 AM
I'm looking forward to Raw tonight :) I nearly marked out when I saw Kevin Nash
Not so sure about ADR though :/ I just can't see a place for him in this feud
jcagosto
08-15-2011, 05:29 AM
The end of Cena vs Punk was lame as hell. ANTI-CLIMATIC. Imagine Stone Cold winning in WM14 under the same circumstances... yeah, lame. All to protect Cena, damn it, the guy doesn't need to be protected that way he has a solid fan base already! Just one clean win, is that too much to ask? And to top it all Del Rio cashes in... I mean, they could have make another big star, and make big money off of him. But all that momentum... gone. And for what? To show off their mexican champion for a couple of weeks in Mexico, come on. Your big market is in the US and CM Punk is finally becoming a BIG star. ADR only seems to have a good following in places with big hispanic communities (especially mexicans) only (Chicago, LA...).
I don't dislike ADR, and I'm glad to see Kevin Nash, but even though this was unpredictable (to certain point) it was lame as hell. Unpredictable but lame, kind of like TNA.
Aren't you guys tired of seeing undeserving wrestlers getting the spotlight and the opportunities from legitimate and deserving wrestlers? This reminds me of the time the Randy Orton won his first championship against Benoit, which btw, he won clean.
jcagosto
08-15-2011, 05:40 AM
Ok.... WWE is like Mr Krabs and the Krusty Krab, he has well known product that is popular, some times Mr Krabs (vince Mcmahon) get too greedy and the product becomes stale and over priced, but its still the number 1 restaunt in bikni bottom and he gives the customers what they want.
TNA is like plankton, He is so consumed with putting The Krusty Krab out of bussiness that he doesnt pay attention to running his own restaunt and instead of creating something that can be a alternative to the Krusty Krab he is more obsessed with stealing there recipe and formula (talent and storylines) then to come up with something new that stands out.
Epic comparison. Right on the money.
Unpopular1
08-15-2011, 07:26 AM
Is anyone else out there getting upset that the only people that can hold a heavyweight or world title for longer than a month are Orton and Cena? Anyone else seems to be just touching it until either one can setup a decent story? Let me know.
A.Graham
08-15-2011, 07:30 AM
Miz held it for 160 odds days
LMPunker
08-15-2011, 07:45 AM
in some ways punk did get put over tonight i mean everyone is talking about nash powerbombing punk and del rio cashing in on punk its almost sone what of an after thought that cenas foot was on the rope and i expect this will set up a triple threat or fatal 4 way for night champions and why not have both punk and cena have legit claims to a rematch and keeps them in the same program so dont say punk punk got robbed,punk got some needed spotlight even though he lost the title so can we see how this plays out and lets not forget del rio has had title reigns pushed back from royal rumble to wrestlemania to extreme rules to money in the bank we've got change as del rio hasnt even been champ before and this could be the best 3 man feud in a long time in wwe
the-rocks-stunner
08-15-2011, 07:53 AM
punk held it for 28 days so thats nearly a month
The Awesome One
08-15-2011, 08:03 AM
I must admit I am getting quite annoyed with the whole Christian/Orton feud. They need to leave the title on one of them and move on... I remember when it used to be 3 rematches and thats it! The classic "Last Chance" matches...
AOF666
08-15-2011, 08:08 AM
I agree this was b.s. Christian is being buried, at least Punk didn't look weak when he lost but it is still total b.s. Tired of seeing Cena and Orton with the title. At this point of their careers, they don't need it. Can't believe they made Del Rio champ, he is boring, and he offers nothing. Talk about a silver spoon fed to him just because he is Mexican. Took Christian 13 years to win title and he can't keep it a month or longer.
johnnydropkicks
08-15-2011, 08:11 AM
I agree this was b.s. Christian is being buried, at least Punk didn't look weak when he lost but it is still total b.s. Tired of seeing Cena and Orton with the title. At this point of their careers, they don't need it. Can't believe they made Del Rio champ, he is boring, and he offers nothing. Talk about a silver spoon fed to him just because he is Mexican. Took Christian 13 years to win title and he can't keep it a month or longer.
it isn't just because he mexican. he has skill.
this will make people hate him even more than they already do.
look for Del Rio to be the best heel in WWE
this turns Punk fans and Cena fans all on Del Rio.
Meanwhile Dos Caras Jr. is WWE Champion as far as Mexico is concerned
The Awesome One
08-15-2011, 08:25 AM
it isn't just because he mexican. he has skill.
this will make people hate him even more than they already do.
look for Del Rio to be the best heel in WWE
this turns Punk fans and Cena fans all on Del Rio.
Meanwhile Dos Caras Jr. is WWE Champion as far as Mexico is concerned
He talks the same stuff everytime he is in the ring... its my destiny, you already knew that... gets on my nerves!
johnnydropkicks
08-15-2011, 08:27 AM
He talks the same stuff everytime he is in the ring... its my destiny, you already knew that... gets on my nerves!
mission accomplished
VanHooliganX
08-15-2011, 08:28 AM
I'm more annoyed that Christians 2 reigns equal around about 1 month. Good to see Orton helping Christian becoming a main eventer.
johnnydropkicks
08-15-2011, 08:30 AM
Vince will never let Christian be a main-eventer so it's not just about Orton. I'm sure Orton is feeling very good and helpful with Christian as Christian has been the best thing to happen to Orton. Christian has vaulted ORton to in-ring and character glory. But for a meddling table Orton would have no losses from this feud.
Necroyeti
08-15-2011, 08:32 AM
He talks the same stuff everytime he is in the ring... its my destiny, you already knew that... gets on my nerves!
He talks the same stuff everytime he is in the ring... candy ass, if you smell what the rock is cookin... gets on my nerves!
He talks the same stuff everytime he is in the ring... give me a hell yeah, what, what, what, what, what, what... gets on my nerves!
He talks the same stuff everytime he is in the ring... oh you didn't know, you ass better call somebody... gets on my nerves!
He talks the same stuff everytime he is in the ring... must see WWE champion, and I'm awesome... gets on my nerves!
He talks the same stuff everytime he is in the ring... woo woo woo, you know it bro... gets on my nerves!
I could do this all day.
CobraNightviper
08-15-2011, 08:36 AM
I like Del Rio he reminds me of a Hispanic model Rick Martel.
johnnydropkicks
08-15-2011, 08:38 AM
from the right angle especially in his celebration he reminds me a lot of christiano ronaldo
Y2J___Y2J
08-15-2011, 09:00 AM
I seen ADR cashing in a mile away but Kevin Nash.. now that was unpredictable!
The Awesome One
08-15-2011, 09:28 AM
He talks the same stuff everytime he is in the ring... candy ass, if you smell what the rock is cookin... gets on my nerves!
He talks the same stuff everytime he is in the ring... give me a hell yeah, what, what, what, what, what, what... gets on my nerves!
He talks the same stuff everytime he is in the ring... oh you didn't know, you ass better call somebody... gets on my nerves!
He talks the same stuff everytime he is in the ring... must see WWE champion, and I'm awesome... gets on my nerves!
He talks the same stuff everytime he is in the ring... woo woo woo, you know it bro... gets on my nerves!
I could do this all day.
But those guys make it work... especially the Miz
maar13
08-15-2011, 11:00 AM
it isn't just because he mexican. he has skill.
this will make people hate him even more than they already do.
look for Del Rio to be the best heel in WWE
this turns Punk fans and Cena fans all on Del Rio.
Meanwhile Dos Caras Jr. is WWE Champion as far as Mexico is concerned
I am more a fan of Punk than I am of Del Rio, but that is because flags for me in wrestling are not that important.
I just hope that they allow Del Rio to shine if they are giving him the ball and not just because an after though in 6 months.
Like you said, he had the skill but they should allow him to show off that, he can become a great champion if allowed to be.
At least, I would like to him to be champion going into Wrestlemania, a run like that would be great, I think he has the skills to pull it off, and then lost it to Punk or retain and get even a longer run.
At this point I will keep Punk strong but a little away form the title to build him back up as a main face who is screwed of opportunities, just like Austin (Note that I am not comparing Punk to Austin, just the situation) was after he lost his second title run to Taker& Kane in 1998, he wouldn't got the title after Wrestlemania and yes the Rock had 3 title runs in that period but Alberto having a solid run would be better IMO.
Why I don't have Cena here? pretty much would find him some big stuff to do and be away from the title because he already have something set for Wrestlemania.
spidercentz
08-15-2011, 11:04 AM
Maybe Cena will get mad about the foot on rope thing and turn heel
Enforcer23
08-15-2011, 12:00 PM
KEVIN NASH!?
WDF?!
and now del rio CHAMPION OMG!??????????
the ending was pretty random but i saw him in the crowd...looks like he will be a bodyguard stupied idea
eveihl
08-15-2011, 12:10 PM
Before I saw that he will be a bodyguard, I thought Nash could be revealed as the Raw Anonymous Gm, He could then feud with HHH over power control.
thejman93
08-15-2011, 12:27 PM
Before I saw that he will be a bodyguard, I thought Nash could be revealed as the Raw Anonymous Gm, He could then feud with HHH over power control.
I'm working under the impression that the whole "bodyguard" thing is just Ryan Clark jumping to conclusions. It seemed like Nash screwed Punk to fuck with Trips, not set up ADR's win.
eveihl
08-15-2011, 12:29 PM
I'm working under the impression that the whole "bodyguard" thing is just Ryan Clark jumping to conclusions. It seemed like Nash screwed Punk to fuck with Trips, not set up ADR's win.
That's True, I could defiantly see Nash fucking with Trips.
AndyWonder
08-15-2011, 02:33 PM
Stupid the way that match ended. CM Punk should have won clean and have that be it. They could have waited on the Del Rio cashing in. Where is the patience there? Punk could have been champ for more than 28 days.
johnnydropkicks
08-15-2011, 03:19 PM
That's True, I could defiantly see Nash fucking with Trips.
awesome sig
Tommy Thunder
08-15-2011, 03:27 PM
I'm glad that this seemingly sets up a Del Rio vs Punk feud and a Cena vs HHH feud.
Punk vs Del Rio should produce good matches, and good promos. I obviously would have prefered Punk keeping the title, but Del Rio cashing in was always likely. I also called it :p
Cena vs HHH, well, if HHH gets back in the ring, it would be cool I guess, but how likely is that really? I'm looking forward to see where that feud goes. I'm just hoping that Cena isn't involved in themain title pic after this ppv.
eveihl
08-15-2011, 05:20 PM
awesome sig
Thanks but i like my new one better.
johnnydropkicks
08-16-2011, 02:12 PM
Thanks but i like my new one better.
yeah that's pretty good
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