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Y2Jryder
09-14-2011, 04:15 PM
– Sin Cara spoke to Nexos Latinos for a brief interview regarding his wrestling background and training regime. When asked why he wears a mask, he replied, “The mask adds a certain mystique to my image. It makes people wonder who I really am and gives additional interest to Mistico.” He adds that it’s difficult for him to see through the mask since he can’t see half the time.
So it's a huge handicap if you wrestle without sight.
Talking about professionalism...
your thoughts?
Rilla
09-14-2011, 04:16 PM
If this was for mexico, and he still turned out to be a big star, then he must be a beast in-ring.
If it's WWE, they need to get him a better mask, and get rid of the lights, that'll help a LOT.
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 04:18 PM
He should wear the mask until hes use to it.
Didnt Mick Foley wear the Mankind mask for hours on end so he got use to the feel.
It just sounds like hes blaming his equipment.
But whats that saying a Shoddy Workman blames his tools?
Y2Jryder
09-14-2011, 04:25 PM
He should wear the mask until hes use to it.
Didnt Mick Foley wear the Mankind mask for hours on end so he got use to the feel.
It just sounds like hes blaming his equipment.
But whats that saying a Shoddy Workman blames his tools?
The mask that Mankind or Rey mysterio are using are different from the mask that Sin cara is wearing. you can't get used to wrestle without sight i think:p
Tommy Thunder
09-14-2011, 04:27 PM
If he says he can't see then WWE need to do something about it. Get rid of the lights, take a pair of scissors to those masks, and the problem's sorted. If Mistico continues to botch, then we'll know for sure that it isn't the mask that's the problem.
Reichwulf
09-14-2011, 04:28 PM
Well if he hasn't been able to see hardly at all, during his matches, and he's still doing the stuff he is doing.... that's pretty epic in my book.
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 04:34 PM
The mask that Mankind or Rey mysterio are using are different from the mask that Sin cara is wearing. you can't get used to wrestle without sight i think:p
You can its just allowing yourself time to adjust.
And with how many times the matches are reversed in WWE nowadays he should know where the guy is going to be,
el gabo
09-14-2011, 04:37 PM
You can its just allowing yourself time to adjust.
And with how many times the matches are reversed in WWE nowadays he should know where the guy is going to be,
Dude, if your vision is impaired, there's no getting used to that. You just can't see. Lowering the lights isn't helping either.
It's not for any of us to say if it's a valid excuse or not until we wear one.
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 04:41 PM
Dude, if your vision is impaired, there's no getting used to that. You just can't see. Lowering the lights isn't helping either.
It's not for any of us to say if it's a valid excuse or not until we wear one.
Dude he clearly can see he just using it as an excuse.
The other dude is doing a great job and he wore the same mask.
el gabo
09-14-2011, 04:45 PM
Dude he clearly can see he just using it as an excuse.
The other dude is doing a great job and he wore the same mask.
Like I said, it's not for any of us to say unless we wear mask and hit the ring for ourselves. Plus, Sincara #2 is also a botchfest, so much so, they had to retape an ENTIRE match. I have heard of retaping endings of matches but, not an entire match.
Having low lights is not great either.
Reichwulf
09-14-2011, 04:45 PM
Dude he clearly can see he just using it as an excuse.
The other dude is doing a great job and he wore the same mask.
Unless they both can barely see, and the other guy just didn't want to say anything. Afterall the mask is covering up the eyes. Can't be for sure unless you buy one and try it on to be honest.
Tommy Thunder
09-14-2011, 04:46 PM
Dude he clearly can see he just using it as an excuse.
The other dude is doing a great job and he wore the same mask.
And I can't imagine how good Hunico would be if the mask had proper holes in them.
How can he see through cloth?! I don't get it!!
Wade Barrett 1979
09-14-2011, 04:48 PM
Dude he clearly can see he just using it as an excuse.
The other dude is doing a great job and he wore the same mask.
The mask he wore in CMLL, had open eye holes, like Rey's mask! As much as Hunico has been doing well 2 things: firstly he hasn't been totally botch free, the episode where they had to re film with Slater, that was Sin Hunico and secondly, if you haven't noticed, Sin Hunico uses a very different move set to Sin Cara! Sin Cara, for all his botches, was a much different and much more fluid mover to Sin Hunico!!
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 04:49 PM
Like I said, it's not for any of us to say unless we wear mask and hit the ring for ourselves. Plus, Sincara #2 is also a botchfest, so much so, they had to retape an ENTIRE match. I have heard of retaping endings of matches but, not an entire match.
Having low lights is not great either.
Hes did botch some moves true but not anywhere near as many as Mistico but his style of wrestling there is always going to be mistakes. The mask from the look of it is just like any halloween mask where you have a thin material blocking your eyes so no one can see your eyes but you can still see out it.
The guy since hes started at WWE just comes up with excuse after excuse. If he keeps up his whinging WWE will have to release him soon.
el gabo
09-14-2011, 04:50 PM
Unless they both can barely see, and the other guy just didn't want to say anything. Afterall the mask is covering up the eyes. Can't be for sure unless you buy one and try it on to be honest.
Thank you.
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 04:52 PM
These Guys did ok with 'Cloth' covering there eyes. Its another excuse..
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/c/conquistadors/02.jpg
http://cdn1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/163/992/875/kM9ok1iyMV0JjzQ.jpg
el gabo
09-14-2011, 04:55 PM
Hes did botch some moves true but not anywhere near as many as Mistico but his style of wrestling there is always going to be mistakes. The mask from the look of it is just like any halloween mask where you have a thin material blocking your eyes so no one can see your eyes but you can still see out it.
The guy since hes started at WWE just comes up with excuse after excuse. If he keeps up his whinging WWE will have to release him soon.
If you're talking about testing positive for a substance, you can test positive for silly stuff as simple as cookies can make you test positive. I'm not saying his innocent or guilty, just saying it's easy to judge without having facts.
el gabo
09-14-2011, 04:57 PM
These Guys did ok with 'Cloth' covering there eyes. Its another excuse..
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/c/conquistadors/02.jpg
http://cdn1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/163/992/875/kM9ok1iyMV0JjzQ.jpg
Again, try the masks out, then tell me how it went.
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 04:59 PM
If you're talking about testing positive for a substance, you can test positive for silly stuff as simple as cookies can make you test positive. I'm not saying his innocent or guilty, just saying it's easy to judge without having facts.
But opening his mouth and making an excuse was stupid. Hes doing the same thing again now making an excuse.
His style of mask has been used before and they havent blamed it.
The guy just cant admit when HE is at fault. And hes already on thin ice now for opening his mouth and yet he continues to do it.
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 05:00 PM
Again, try the masks out, then tell me how it went.
As i said ive worn Halloween Masks like that and ive had no issue.
And Thunder Liger has worn the mask with the cloth over his eyes with no issues for what must be 20 years now. It just takes time to get use to.
AOF666
09-14-2011, 05:01 PM
For a guy pretty much wore a mask for most of his career, this clearly a really bad excuse!
el gabo
09-14-2011, 05:02 PM
But opening his mouth and making an excuse was stupid. Hes doing the same thing again now making an excuse.
His style of mask has been used before and they haven't blamed it.
The guy just cant admit when HE is at fault. And hes already on thin ice now for opening his mouth and yet he continues to do it.
Let's just imagine for a second that it was a false positive, do you think it's fair for him to clear his name of any wrong doing? I know I would.
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 05:03 PM
For a guy pretty much wore a mask for most of his career, this clearly a really bad excuse!
THANK you.
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 05:06 PM
Let's just imagine for a second that it was a false positive, do you think it's fair for him to clear his name of any wrong doing? I know I would.
Not when its such a sensitive issue.
What HE should of done was ask for a retesting in private you dont go to the press.
Its not like it was his 3 strike. It was his first strike. Do any of us think less of Mysterio because hes failed the test. NO. But do any of use think less of Mystico because he bitched and made excuses about failing one? Yes
el gabo
09-14-2011, 05:06 PM
THANK you.
I see a name change has done nothing.
A.Graham
09-14-2011, 05:07 PM
Well Hunico seems to be able to see through the mask perfectly fine.
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 05:11 PM
I see a name change has done nothing.
*Sigh*
Ive put the logic of Thunder Liger being able to do it. You know Mystico has an attitude problem and blames everyone BUT himself. And yet because i feel hes making yet another weak excuse and my opinion which has is split about 50/50 at the minute conflicts with yours you try to make out that im in the wrong and trying to make out that im talking out my arse.
Wade Barrett 1979
09-14-2011, 05:12 PM
As i said ive worn Halloween Masks like that and ive had no issue.
And Thunder Liger has worn the mask with the cloth over his eyes with no issues for what must be 20 years now. It just takes time to get use to.
With that last sentence, haven't you somewhat agreed that it may be in part to do with the mask?!
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 05:14 PM
With that last sentence, haven't you somewhat agreed that it may be in part to do with the mask?!
I made that arguement earlier about it taking time to get use to but hes been around for what 6 months now? and should be use to it especially for a guy whos worn masks for his entire career.
Necroyeti
09-14-2011, 05:14 PM
He needs one of these
http://movies.trekcore.com/generations/images/main/laforge.jpg
scan ze electromagnetic spectrum, create visual input, send that shit up the optic nerve
Wade Barrett 1979
09-14-2011, 05:14 PM
For a guy pretty much wore a mask for most of his career, this clearly a really bad excuse!
The mask he wore in CMLL was different and had open eye holes!!
Black Mass Reverend
09-14-2011, 05:14 PM
Yeah let's not take into account that the man has had barely any training in WWE style of wrestling since he's joined the company, as opposed to Hunico who was down in FCW for like what? 2 years? -_-
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 05:17 PM
http://www.powerprowrestlingfigs.com/images/uploads/Suicide.jpg
Yet another reason why the mask excuse is another poor excuse
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 05:19 PM
The mask he wore in CMLL was different and had open eye holes!!
Cool but he has surely worn a varient of masks. Not just one throughout his entire career.
captainmoonlight
09-14-2011, 05:19 PM
Not when its such a sensitive issue.
What HE should of done was ask for a retesting in private you dont go to the press.
Its not like it was his 3 strike. It was his first strike. Do any of us think less of Mysterio because hes failed the test. NO. But do any of use think less of Mystico because he bitched and made excuses about failing one? Yes
correct me if im wrong but mysterio DID bitch about it?
and on topic, it sounds like he responded to a question and was making no excuses, it pains me to read about mistico when its blatantly obvious that he (hunico and cara) are put in the ring with baffoons like slater who cant handle a match
Wade Barrett 1979
09-14-2011, 05:20 PM
I made that arguement earlier about it taking time to get use to but hes been around for what 6 months now? and should be use to it especially for a guy whos worn masks for his entire career.
Maybe but as I've stated his mask in CMLL was very different and had open eye holes! I still believe the biggest issue was not putting him through FCW first! WWE were too impatient to cash in on his name from Mexico!! That's where Hunico's advantage has come from, plus as I said Sin Hunico has a different move set to Sin Cara! If you think about it though, how clever have WWE been? They now have 2 luchador wrestlers, with a developing storyline between the 2 going in to their Mexico tour! They'll make a fortune!!
Tommy Thunder
09-14-2011, 05:21 PM
Hunico seems to be able to work with the mask fine, so I'll say it's an excuse.
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 05:27 PM
Maybe but as I've stated his mask in CMLL was very different and had open eye holes! I still believe the biggest issue was not putting him through FCW first! WWE were too impatient to cash in on his name from Mexico!! That's where Hunico's advantage has come from, plus as I said Sin Hunico has a different move set to Sin Cara! If you think about it though, how clever have WWE been? They now have 2 luchador wrestlers, with a developing storyline between the 2 going in to their Mexico tour! They'll make a fortune!!
I agree but it is an excuse. And WWE left too much faith in Rey Mysterio as there only real High Flying Luchador.
But Hunico hasnt made excuses yet about the mask. And it just seems to me like Mystico saw that Hunico did a better job them him and hes using this mask as the excuse.
The guy is really hard to take seriously and if he keeps it up as i said before he wont be with WWE long.
correct me if im wrong but mysterio DID bitch about it?
2nd time he did.
el gabo
09-14-2011, 05:35 PM
*Sigh*
Ive put the logic of Thunder Liger being able to do it. You know Mystico has an attitude problem and blames everyone BUT himself. And yet because i feel hes making yet another weak excuse and my opinion which has is split about 50/50 at the minute conflicts with yours you try to make out that im in the wrong and trying to make out that im talking out my arse.
Not at all. I'm game for a good debate anytime, but you seem to completely throw out the idea that he is telling the truth. I'm not saying he is or that he isn't. It's 50/50 and although I'm inclined to think it is an excuse, I also think he has several things against him, those being everything other forum members have pointed out.
Wade Barrett 1979
09-14-2011, 05:42 PM
I agree but it is an excuse. And WWE left too much faith in Rey Mysterio as there only real High Flying Luchador.
But Hunico hasnt made excuses yet about the mask. And it just seems to me like Mystico saw that Hunico did a better job them him and hes using this mask as the excuse.
I don't know, I suppose I just want to see him do well, I've been a fan for a while now and followed him pre WWE. The only thing with Hunico is, would you moan if you'd just been brought up to the main roster, probably way earlier than they intended, coupled with the fact he was going to play a character that's already massively over with the crowd, with the reputation that Mistico brought to the chatacter? I'm pretty sure I'd keep quiet! The main thing still for me though, is if you look at Sin Hunico from the first time he played the chatacter til now, he has massively changed the move set, something which Sin Cara wouldn't do as those moves are the basis of his character he brought over from CMLL and the reason WWE signed him!!
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 05:43 PM
Not at all. I'm game for a good debate anytime, but you seem to completely throw out the idea that he is telling the truth. I'm not saying he is or that he isn't. It's 50/50 and although I'm inclined to think it is an excuse, I also think he has several things against him, those being everything other forum members have pointed out.
But making personnel comments about me because i disagree with the opinion that he is making excuses and bringing up something that is long in the past is wrong.
I do get that you only want to see the good in some people but the FACT that other wrestlers (some who are legends) have worn masks with cloth covering the eyes and have never(or if they have only blammed it on one match) said it was the 'masks' fault.
The guy is still young and because he was thought of so highly in mexico he seems to have this Ego that Randy Orton use to have and can never admit he is at fault its always someone or something elses.
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 05:48 PM
I don't know, I suppose I just want to see him do well, I've been a fan for a while now and followed him pre WWE. The only thing with Hunico is, would you moan if you'd just been brought up to the main roster, probably way earlier than they intended, coupled with the fact he was going to play a character that's already massively over with the crowd, with the reputation that Mistico brought to the chatacter? I'm pretty sure I'd keep quiet! The main thing still for me though, is if you look at Sin Hunico from the first time he played the chatacter til now, he has massively changed the move set, something which Sin Cara wouldn't do as those moves are the basis of his character he brought over from CMLL and the reason WWE signed him!!
Well wasnt there alot of specualtion about Mistico never returning? They brought Hunico up at the time his future was it great debt. They also cant have a character who they are trying to push as the next massive merchandise seller off TV.
Keeping something quiet with as many leaks they are nowadays is almost impossible. And with Mistico suspended i think most hardcore fans would of put 2 and 2 together and worked out that it wasnt Mistico performing as Sin Cara
I can see them bringing this up as a storyline at a later date anyway. Hunico vs Mistico.
Asherdelampyr
09-14-2011, 05:50 PM
Truth is we don't really know anything about his actual mask, we can make assumptions based off of the masks others have worn but unless someone here has actually made his SPECIFIC mask that he is actually wearing, we don't know. I mean lets take a look at the mask eh?
http://tribalwrestling.com/wp-content/uploads/sin-cara-suspended.jpg
Now, I have done a bit of sewing in my time, and we can hope that the visible "eye ridges" are actually wear the holes should be and the same size, but we don't know. We also don't have the slightest idea how thick the fabric is, or how loosely it is woven over his eyes, or what. Combine that with the retarded under-lighting WWE seems to insist on each time he comes out, and the fact that both "Sin Caras" have botched quite a bit, and it seems like, while that may not be the only issue the mask does seem to be a factor. We are not talking other luchadore masks here, we are talking about the specific style mask he is wearing.
I kinda think a lot of the reason that Huncio Cara botches less is that he is taking a lot fewer risks with his moveset. Hell Jake the Snake roberts wrestled blindfolded a few times and did pretty well, because he stuck to moves that he could do with his eyes closed, we may have a similar situation here.
el gabo
09-14-2011, 05:57 PM
But making personnel comments about me because i disagree with the opinion that he is making excuses and bringing up something that is long in the past is wrong.
I do get that you only want to see the good in some people but the FACT that other wrestlers (some who are legends) have worn masks with cloth covering the eyes and have never(or if they have only blammed it on one match) said it was the 'masks' fault.
The guy is still young and because he was thought of so highly in mexico he seems to have this Ego that Randy Orton use to have and can never admit he is at fault its always someone or something elses.
It's not a matter of seeing the good in a person, it's just that, personally, I don't completely rule out any possibilities.
The fact that it was his first strike to me, means nothing because of several reasons: 1. Some people take pride in having an honorable reputation and being known to test positive for ANY substance is not something you want to be known for.
2. Remember he's from Mexico and I'm sure his not that familiar with the politics WWE has. On the other hand, he could have known but just didn't care (a lá Punk)
Was it the smartest thing to do (bitch about it)? No. But, I think I would have done the same (try to clear my name *IF he is truly innocent)
Wade Barrett 1979
09-14-2011, 05:58 PM
Keeping something quiet with as many leaks they are nowadays is almost impossible. And with Mistico suspended i think most hardcore fans would of put 2 and 2 together and worked out that it wasnt Mistico performing as Sin Cara
I can see them bringing this up as a storyline at a later date anyway. Hunico vs Mistico.
To be fair I think any fan, apart from really young kids, would know it wasn't Sin Cara! Hunico is heavier, taller and has a darker skin tone!!
Yup with the way they are giving him heel traits, I think there will be a face off.
Wade Barrett 1979
09-14-2011, 06:01 PM
I kinda think a lot of the reason that Huncio Cara botches less is that he is taking a lot fewer risks with his moveset. Hell Jake the Snake roberts wrestled blindfolded a few times and did pretty well, because he stuck to moves that he could do with his eyes closed, we may have a similar situation here.
This has been my argument, when Sin Hunico took over, he completely changed the move set for the character, right down to the finisher!
Subject Zero
09-14-2011, 06:03 PM
The fact that it was his first strike to me, means nothing because of several reasons: 1. Some people take pride in having an honorable reputation and being known to test positive for ANY substance is not something you want to be known for.
2. Remember he's from Mexico and I'm sure his not that familiar with the politics WWE has. On the other hand, he could have known but just didn't care (a lá Punk)
Oh yeah i agree at the first strike thing i dont give a shit most fans dont care and id imagine most of the roster dosent care either. I have no issue with him failing a drugs test but the way he handled it. He has the right to complain but he should of just bitched to management.
Rick Starr
09-14-2011, 06:06 PM
For a company (Soon to be a network in 2012) who is so high on wellness policies, I find it so ironic how they let a person wrestle with a mask that they can't see in half the time...in a dark-lit room!
Androo
09-14-2011, 06:09 PM
Truth is we don't really know anything about his actual mask, we can make assumptions based off of the masks others have worn but unless someone here has actually made his SPECIFIC mask that he is actually wearing, we don't know. I mean lets take a look at the mask eh?
http://tribalwrestling.com/wp-content/uploads/sin-cara-suspended.jpg
Now, I have done a bit of sewing in my time, and we can hope that the visible "eye ridges" are actually wear the holes should be and the same size, but we don't know. We also don't have the slightest idea how thick the fabric is, or how loosely it is woven over his eyes, or what. Combine that with the retarded under-lighting WWE seems to insist on each time he comes out, and the fact that both "Sin Caras" have botched quite a bit, and it seems like, while that may not be the only issue the mask does seem to be a factor. We are not talking other luchadore masks here, we are talking about the specific style mask he is wearing.
I kinda think a lot of the reason that Huncio Cara botches less is that he is taking a lot fewer risks with his moveset. Hell Jake the Snake roberts wrestled blindfolded a few times and did pretty well, because he stuck to moves that he could do with his eyes closed, we may have a similar situation here.
Precisely.
His mask isn't just some see through cloth, all he has to see through is the little holes in the eyecovers. I'd struggle to see in it in everyday life, nevermind doing all his moveset. He also came straight into the main roster and noone had worked with him before. He also couldn't speak English, not even a little bit well. Completely restricting comunicating with his opponent in matches. Hunico HAD worked for a few years in FCW, probably already worked with many of the opponents, and can speak English fluently. Add to the fact his moveset is completely different, and probably less extreme than Misticos.
All in all, those are some pretty legit and valid excuses, for a few botches. And how do we know the truth about wellness test?
Reichwulf
09-14-2011, 06:19 PM
Precisely.
His mask isn't just some see through cloth, all he has to see through is the little holes in the eyecovers. I'd struggle to see in it in everyday life, nevermind doing all his moveset. He also came straight into the main roster and noone had worked with him before. He also couldn't speak English, not even a little bit well. Completely restricting comunicating with his opponent in matches. Hunico HAD worked for a few years in FCW, probably already worked with many of the opponents, and can speak English fluently. Add to the fact his moveset is completely different, and probably less extreme than Misticos.
All in all, those are some pretty legit and valid excuses, for a few botches. And how do we know the truth about wellness test?
Like i said you can't be sure completely, unless you buy a replica and try it on yourself. Either way, they both have been amazing in the ring, and if they can't see that well with what they have on, doing what they do... Then i find that pretty awesome in my book. But if it's really difficult to see with that mask on, i think it needs a revamp.
Wade Barrett 1979
09-14-2011, 06:19 PM
Precisely.
His mask isn't just some see through cloth, all he has to see through is the little holes in the eyecovers. I'd struggle to see in it in everyday life, nevermind doing all his moveset. He also came straight into the main roster and noone had worked with him before. He also couldn't speak English, not even a little bit well. Completely restricting comunicating with his opponent in matches. Hunico HAD worked for a few years in FCW, probably already worked with many of the opponents, and can speak English fluently. Add to the fact his moveset is completely different, and probably less extreme than Misticos.
All in all, those are some pretty legit and valid excuses, for a few botches. And how do we know the truth about wellness test?
Yup, absolutely spot on! You've managed to sum up in one post, what has taken me about 6! So cheers for that :0)
King Scrapper
09-14-2011, 06:39 PM
I think people are taking this out of context. Obviously he's not blind in the ring. He definitely can see, just not as clear as it would be without a mask.
Hammy
09-14-2011, 06:45 PM
The mask he has makes it hard for him to see hence the reason the lighting. making things darker must help with him to see. I enjoyed his matches yeh theres been some botches but really everyone botches now n then dont they
Rich Cranium
09-14-2011, 06:53 PM
And how do we know the truth about wellness test?
That has been explained. MistiCara was getting steroid injections down in Mexico for his knee which triggered a fail on his piss test.
Tommy Thunder
09-14-2011, 07:04 PM
Mystico can't see.....
CAN'T SEE CENA!!!
JLeeDude1892
09-14-2011, 07:15 PM
He should wear the mask until hes use to it.
Didnt Mick Foley wear the Mankind mask for hours on end so he got use to the feel.
It just sounds like hes blaming his equipment.
But whats that saying a Shoddy Workman blames his tools?
That's totally different. Mick Foley could still see in his mask because it did not cover his eyes. Misticos mask is completely covered with a fabric that he can barely see through. WWE should change that.
Asherdelampyr
09-14-2011, 07:16 PM
Precisely.
His mask isn't just some see through cloth, all he has to see through is the little holes in the eyecovers. I'd struggle to see in it in everyday life, nevermind doing all his moveset. He also came straight into the main roster and noone had worked with him before. He also couldn't speak English, not even a little bit well. Completely restricting comunicating with his opponent in matches. Hunico HAD worked for a few years in FCW, probably already worked with many of the opponents, and can speak English fluently. Add to the fact his moveset is completely different, and probably less extreme than Misticos.
All in all, those are some pretty legit and valid excuses, for a few botches. And how do we know the truth about wellness test?
the truth seems to be that he was taking them medically for his knee, as a doctor in Mexico told him to.
I really want Sin Cara to do well, because that will get WWE to maybe bring over more lucha wrestlers, the lucha style is my personal favorite and I would love to see it AND be able to understand the commentary/promos
voltaire
09-14-2011, 08:34 PM
Chris Jericho did say in his book when he portrayed the evil Jushin Thunder Liger character he had difficulty seeing. He botched several simple moves he had done millions of times and had to guess where his opponent was. maybe he really is having trouble.
Asherdelampyr
09-14-2011, 08:55 PM
Chris Jericho did say in his book when he portrayed the evil Jushin Thunder Liger character he had difficulty seeing. He botched several simple moves he had done millions of times and had to guess where his opponent was. maybe he really is having trouble.
I had forgotten about that, excellent point
Necroyeti
09-14-2011, 08:58 PM
Mystico can't see.....
CAN'T SEE CENA!!!
http://i29.tinypic.com/2vv7z3t.gif
tapping through my keyboard
LoGik
09-14-2011, 09:56 PM
i don't think he was making an excuse it was more like a statement. and the way they dim the lights probably doesnt help at all.
evilgenius780
09-14-2011, 10:15 PM
I'm pretty sure its the mesh in front of his eyes, a friend of mine bought the mask when we were at a live event, and I tried it on, I was actually thinking that it must be tough to see.
Y2Jryder
09-15-2011, 02:31 AM
@Subject Zero, I guess you are not really a mistico fan lol
BlazersDozen
09-15-2011, 03:42 AM
If both guys are botching, then they need to change the mask. I don't care if its an excuse or not. Its a safety issue! I also don't care who wore a halloween mask with the same eye covers also. Fact is, you more than likely weren't running, jumping & propelling yourself off things like ring ropes & turnbuckles while you were wearing it.
You also can not put down this report. You have no evidence of what he's saying is true or false. You don't know what kind of vision he has in the first place without the mask & you don't even know if the mask is made the same as the other masks or your halloween mask. You don't know how thick the material is that is over the eyes.
Stop being haters.
Sully
09-15-2011, 08:48 AM
Everything regarding Mistico since he came from the States has been..."Unprofessional". I don't blame him much, it's difficult adjusting to that sort of thing, but he should at least no better then to wear a mask where he has full viability. I mean...that's dangerous. That is a risk to not only himself, but to other wrestlers and the fans.
Plus, I don't think he was being serious. I think he was just trying to add some excitement to the interview.
TheRockerGother
09-15-2011, 09:07 AM
Same happened with Kane didn't he have trouble breathing and seeing when he wore the mask?
CobraNightviper
09-15-2011, 12:12 PM
Of course he did he's a diffrent wrestler I'm pretty sure everybody knows that by now I'm just waiting to see if wwe will admit it or not.
This has been my argument, when Sin Hunico took over, he completely changed the move set for the character, right down to the finisher!
CobraNightviper
09-15-2011, 12:14 PM
Kane mask had open eye holes but the breathing part I don't know about which mask Kanes had like 3 diffrent masks I think.
Same happened with Kane didn't he have trouble breathing and seeing when he wore the mask?
CobraNightviper
09-15-2011, 12:16 PM
Not caring for someone is one thing but calling them a liar is something totally diffrent.
@Subject Zero, I guess you are not really a mistico fan lol
Asherdelampyr
09-15-2011, 12:20 PM
Of course he did he's a diffrent wrestler I'm pretty sure everybody knows that by now I'm just waiting to see if wwe will admit it or not.
yeah, everyone knows that they are different, the point is that sin Huncio took a lot fewer risks than Sin Mistico
I think he was watching Mistico botch and decided that he would stay closer to the ground
sincara
09-15-2011, 12:22 PM
sincara making an excuse for his botches
Rich Cranium
09-15-2011, 12:24 PM
sincara making an excuse for his botches
SinCara! You came to defend yourself?
HuniCara is going to kick your ass, blind or not!
Y2J___Y2J
09-15-2011, 12:43 PM
Well I would think it is very difficult to wrestle with limited sight... you would think WWE could get him another mask made of something else etc.
But I guess now we know why the lights are low.. as they probably aid his sight in the mask
jelle1809
09-15-2011, 01:10 PM
C'mon people, it gives him an excuse for his botching. Give another few months and the botching will finally be over as soon as he is used to the mask.
Robareid
09-15-2011, 01:17 PM
If he really can't see, this is a serious problem. The stuff he does in the ring is dangerous enough, adding the fact he has problem seeing is just downright crazy.
Reichwulf
09-15-2011, 01:22 PM
If both guys are botching, then they need to change the mask. I don't care if its an excuse or not. Its a safety issue! I also don't care who wore a halloween mask with the same eye covers also. Fact is, you more than likely weren't running, jumping & propelling yourself off things like ring ropes & turnbuckles while you were wearing it.
You also can not put down this report. You have no evidence of what he's saying is true or false. You don't know what kind of vision he has in the first place without the mask & you don't even know if the mask is made the same as the other masks or your halloween mask. You don't know how thick the material is that is over the eyes.
Stop being haters.
Amen to that.
Androo
09-15-2011, 03:23 PM
If both guys are botching, then they need to change the mask. I don't care if its an excuse or not. Its a safety issue! I also don't care who wore a halloween mask with the same eye covers also. Fact is, you more than likely weren't running, jumping & propelling yourself off things like ring ropes & turnbuckles while you were wearing it.
You also can not put down this report. You have no evidence of what he's saying is true or false. You don't know what kind of vision he has in the first place without the mask & you don't even know if the mask is made the same as the other masks or your halloween mask. You don't know how thick the material is that is over the eyes.
Stop being haters.
Yes. Sentiments echoed.
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