tarver on cena tv trax

[jordan1995]

this shocked me quite a bit this is micheal tarver talkin about cenas in ring carelessness which lead to his broken arm !!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eym3mUHPNYk

[YOUcanCALLmeCRACK]

Interesting. Good find to say the least. I honestly do not know what to make of this.

[Y2Jryder]

Who is that guy that is locked in the stfu? right...

[AOF666]

I heard about this before from Tarver. There is a possibility he is telling the truth.

[Bennyladd1]

doesnt surprise me, so cena decided to hurt & not shake tarvers hand because of his bad attitude which was portrayed in his on screen character, wow, cena is dumber than i thought.

[the-rocks-stunner]

this was on the homepage couple of months back he was apparently lying

[jordan1995]

hate the fact cena laughed at tarver and his broken arm backstage ..of course if tarver is telling the truth which i believe he is.

[the-rocks-stunner]

hate the fact cena laughed at tarver and his broken arm backstage ..of course if tarver is telling the truth which i believe he is.

100% doubt it Cena is 1 of the nicest guys you will ever meet

[the-rocks-stunner]

IMO, what Tarver is saying is kinda all over the place.

Before: He injured me intentionally!

After: He didn't intentionally injure me, he just didn't care.

2013: Michael Tarver: The Biography

page 244: while i was in surgery john cena came and pissed in my arm before the doctor could stitch it back up

-_________-

[Y2J___Y2J]

It all sounds a bit suspect.. but nobody will ever know if he's telling the truth or not.. I would think that he is not telling. I doubt Cena is that much of a douche.

[therockiswwf]

If anyone honestly believes this, then they are dumbasses. Tarver is just bitching and complaining. Tarver has changed this story multiple times.

[Necroyeti]

Apart from this bitter fruitloop, I don't think there's been ONE other ex-WWE wrestler with a single bad word to say about John Cena's person. I challenge you to find an article proving me wrong.

[therockiswwf]

Apart from this bitter fruitloop, I don't think there's been ONE other ex-WWE wrestler with a single bad word to say about John Cena's person. I challenge you to find an article proving me wrong.

Chavo Guerrero Jr. has said a bunch of bad stuff about Cena (Although Chavo is just being a dumbass)

[Asherdelampyr]

Tarver is just an attention-whore
he wants soo bad for it not to be his own fault, or due to his own failing that he was released
so instead, he has decided to blame the face of the company, not the first time this has happened in a company, and will unfortunately not be the last.

[jrsckilla23]

100% doubt it Cena is 1 of the nicest guys you will ever meet

Hogan played the nicest guys as well until he showed his true colors which is called ASSHOLE and Cena is the same thing he just plays the part cuz of the money

[BIGZrudypoo812]

100% doubt it Cena is 1 of the nicest guys you will ever meet

are you and Cena Best buds?

[Necroyeti]

Chavo Guerrero Jr. has said a bunch of bad stuff about Cena (Although Chavo is just being a dumbass)
Yeah, true, I forgot about him.

It just reeks of Tarver and Chavo attention whoring, to me. Unlike other "top guys" like Hulk Hogan, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin and Triple H, there aren't any credible stories out there of Cena politicking to keep his spot or actively burying other talents. All signs point to him being a company man.

[LuckIsForLosers]

Yeah, true, I forgot about him.

It just reeks of Tarver and Chavo attention whoring, to me. Unlike other "top guys" like Hulk Hogan, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin and Triple H, there aren't any credible stories out there of Cena politicking to keep his spot or actively burying other talents. All signs point to him being a company man.

What this guy said:


Hogan played the nicest guys as well until he showed his true colors which is called ASSHOLE and Cena is the same thing he just plays the part cuz of the money

Cena politics in a different way...if anyone honestly believes that what makes Cena wake up in the morning and put on his jorts is a genuine love for the "Company", then they are as deluded as Michael Tarver and his changing stories! I don't believe this Tarver nonsense...but at the same time, is Cena weally weally a nice guy? He plays politics just like everyone else did, except he does it in a smarter way, using his charisma and his Hollywood clean-cut image/looks to ensure he's always in a top position. Cena would have tremendous stroke, and if he cared so much about the company, he wouldn't have taken the belt from ADR and he WOULD have dropped it to Barrett.

And for those that say he doesn't bury/DOES put people over, I challenge that. Miz, Sheamus and whoever else beat him for the title - they did it uncleanly. Cena slipped of a turnbuckle and fell through a table to lose to an Irish human wrecking ball! That ISN'T putting over! Putting over/burying does NOT rely on win/lose! Same with Miz - how many matches did he have vs Cena? How many did he win cleanly. The only person that I remember beating him cleanly was Punk on Raw months and months ago, before the shoot. And Punk didn't need putting over, whether as a face or heel, he already WAS over.

Disclaimer: Not a Cena rant - he's solid, oozes charisma and is a main event guy. But it just simply ISN'T true that he's the company nice guy who selflessly puts over hordes - he's no better than Hogan ...well, maybe that's a bit too far :)

[OldSchoolHeel]

Chavo Guerrero Jr. has said a bunch of bad stuff about Cena (Although Chavo is just being a dumbass)

chavo was talking about his in ring abilities. not the human being...

[Asherdelampyr]

chavo was talking about his in ring abilities. not the human being...

important to note that
Outside of Tarver, there have never been any stories of Cena being an asshole to anybody, and really, why would he need to? He is basically untouchable, he's probably one of the happiest guys in the locker room today. He could get injured for 6 months, go and shoot a couple direct to dvd crapfests and come back to WWE KNOWING that his spot is secure, how many other guys can really say that? He doesn't need to politic at this point, he is already the top guy in the company.

[therockiswwf]

What this guy said:



Cena politics in a different way...if anyone honestly believes that what makes Cena wake up in the morning and put on his jorts is a genuine love for the "Company", then they are as deluded as Michael Tarver and his changing stories! I don't believe this Tarver nonsense...but at the same time, is Cena weally weally a nice guy? He plays politics just like everyone else did, except he does it in a smarter way, using his charisma and his Hollywood clean-cut image/looks to ensure he's always in a top position. Cena would have tremendous stroke, and if he cared so much about the company, he wouldn't have taken the belt from ADR and he WOULD have dropped it to Barrett.

And for those that say he doesn't bury/DOES put people over, I challenge that. Miz, Sheamus and whoever else beat him for the title - they did it uncleanly. Cena slipped of a turnbuckle and fell through a table to lose to an Irish human wrecking ball! That ISN'T putting over! Putting over/burying does NOT rely on win/lose! Same with Miz - how many matches did he have vs Cena? How many did he win cleanly. The only person that I remember beating him cleanly was Punk on Raw months and months ago, before the shoot. And Punk didn't need putting over, whether as a face or heel, he already WAS over.

Disclaimer: Not a Cena rant - he's solid, oozes charisma and is a main event guy. But it just simply ISN'T true that he's the company nice guy who selflessly puts over hordes - he's no better than Hogan ...well, maybe that's a bit too far :)

Cena = Top face
Top face = (Almost) Never lose clean
How many times did Austin lose cleanly in 1999? Austin lost in a triple threat match at SS and to a car. That is the only time I can remember him being beaten clean in 1999.

Hogan refused to let people beat him, Cena hasn't. Cena doesn't get to choose how he wins or loses, creative does.

[LuckIsForLosers]

Cena = Top face
Top face = (Almost) Never lose clean
How many times did Austin lose cleanly in 1999? Austin lost in a triple threat match at SS and to a car. That is the only time I can remember him being beaten clean in 1999.

Hogan refused to let people beat him, Cena hasn't. Cena doesn't get to choose how he wins or loses, creative does.

Good point about Austin...maybe I should have made myself more clear. Winning cleanly CONSTANTLY is one thing. Winning cleanly CONSTANTLY for ten WWE titles is another - you can shove a superstar down our throat buy them being unstoppable e.g. Mark Henry as of late, or Austin back then OR you can shove a superstar who just keeps getting championship after championship a la Orton. But giving us a superstar who does both constantly is boring.

And honestly - creative chooses, yes, but do you SERIOUSLY think Cena hasn't got enough stroke to say "Yeah...I KNOW you wanna put Miz over with a title, but can you ensure that he NEVER beats me cleanly?"...that HAPPENS. It's called backstage stroke. As you say, Cena is a top face - he probably DOES have the power to determine a match finish or at least influence it. My point is, if Cena was concerned about putting people over and being a good company guy as he's portrayed, he would have piped up and said "let Miz/Punk/Sheamus/Barrett/Truth/ADR" beat me/beat me cleanly for the (note not ALL of them beating Cena cleanly, that would be silly, just ONE!). But he didn't.

My point is not that Cena sucks or "I hate Cena" - it's in response to this topic. Yes, Tarver is what some, myself included, would call a bitter douche. But Cena is unlikely to be a saint backstage as many of you think and doesn't really put anyone over. At least orton lost cleanly to Henry.

@therockiswwf - apologies if I come across pompous/rude :D

[Asherdelampyr]

Good point about Austin...maybe I should have made myself more clear. Winning cleanly CONSTANTLY is one thing. Winning cleanly CONSTANTLY for ten WWE titles is another - you can shove a superstar down our throat buy them being unstoppable e.g. Mark Henry as of late, or Austin back then OR you can shove a superstar who just keeps getting championship after championship a la Orton. But giving us a superstar who does both constantly is boring.

And honestly - creative chooses, yes, but do you SERIOUSLY think Cena hasn't got enough stroke to say "Yeah...I KNOW you wanna put Miz over with a title, but can you ensure that he NEVER beats me cleanly?"...that HAPPENS. It's called backstage stroke. As you say, Cena is a top face - he probably DOES have the power to determine a match finish or at least influence it. My point is, if Cena was concerned about putting people over and being a good company guy as he's portrayed, he would have piped up and said "let Miz/Punk/Sheamus/Barrett/Truth/ADR" beat me/beat me cleanly for the (note not ALL of them beating Cena cleanly, that would be silly, just ONE!). But he didn't.

My point is not that Cena sucks or "I hate Cena" - it's in response to this topic. Yes, Tarver is what some, myself included, would call a bitter douche. But Cena is unlikely to be a saint backstage as many of you think and doesn't really put anyone over. At least orton lost cleanly to Henry.

@therockiswwf - apologies if I come across pompous/rude :D

and Vince can say "No John, you are my superman, I need you to look impossible to beat cleanly so that the kids will still believe in you and buy your t-shirts" I think this may be closer and closer to the lead role in a theatrical production, where the closer you are to top billing, the more you are locked down by the script. the extras, the single-named types.. they can adlib and make some stuff up on the fly, the Title Cast can't

[Rilla]

When this first broke.. I LMAO'd.

First off, there from what I remember had been /no/ reports of Tarver's arm being messed up at all.

Second, it came /months/ after his release(At least, when I heard about it), after he had released or started working on a gospel CD

Third, his reason, from what I read was, 'Cena was jealous of my promo ability backstage...' which was a stupid reason given he didn't break Punk's arm, or Miz's arm, both of which are equal to or greater than Cena on the mic.

[Asherdelampyr]

wait, did Tarver HAVE promo ability? I don't remember any promos he cut other than when he was voted off NXT there was some rambling crazy stuff there

[Rilla]

wait, did Tarver HAVE promo ability? I don't remember any promos he cut other than when he was voted off NXT there was some rambling crazy stuff there

I have no clue. I do know, however, he had a good look and I don't think he was that bad in the ring. Promo ability though? Ehhh. I'd have to do some searching.

[Asherdelampyr]

I have no clue. I do know, however, he had a good look and I don't think he was that bad in the ring. Promo ability though? Ehhh. I'd have to do some searching.

he did have a good look
and he was at least as good as the rest of the NXT guys (Bryan excluded for obvious reasons)

[Rilla]

he did have a good look
and he was at least as good as the rest of the NXT guys (Bryan excluded for obvious reasons)

I think he was one of the better ones, most of them were pretty alright(Otunga excluded... heath impressed me more than JG did at MITB, but still), Tarver could have been a good mid-card/tag-team person.

[Asherdelampyr]

I think he was one of the better ones, most of them were pretty alright(Otunga excluded... heath impressed me more than JG did at MITB, but still), Tarver could have been a good mid-card/tag-team person.

he made a good enforcer type. Imposing background man
would have been a great addition for a heel like Del Rio to use.

[therockiswwf]

Good point about Austin...maybe I should have made myself more clear. Winning cleanly CONSTANTLY is one thing. Winning cleanly CONSTANTLY for ten WWE titles is another - you can shove a superstar down our throat buy them being unstoppable e.g. Mark Henry as of late, or Austin back then OR you can shove a superstar who just keeps getting championship after championship a la Orton. But giving us a superstar who does both constantly is boring.

And honestly - creative chooses, yes, but do you SERIOUSLY think Cena hasn't got enough stroke to say "Yeah...I KNOW you wanna put Miz over with a title, but can you ensure that he NEVER beats me cleanly?"...that HAPPENS. It's called backstage stroke. As you say, Cena is a top face - he probably DOES have the power to determine a match finish or at least influence it. My point is, if Cena was concerned about putting people over and being a good company guy as he's portrayed, he would have piped up and said "let Miz/Punk/Sheamus/Barrett/Truth/ADR" beat me/beat me cleanly for the (note not ALL of them beating Cena cleanly, that would be silly, just ONE!). But he didn't.

My point is not that Cena sucks or "I hate Cena" - it's in response to this topic. Yes, Tarver is what some, myself included, would call a bitter douche. But Cena is unlikely to be a saint backstage as many of you think and doesn't really put anyone over. At least orton lost cleanly to Henry.

@therockiswwf - apologies if I come across pompous/rude :D

Duh Cena has stroke to do that, but have you ever heard anything about Cena doing that? Hogan and HHH are both well known for not wanting to lose (Although HHH eventually started to put people over), yet NO ONE has ever said anything about Cena doing that. Orton can lose cleanly, because he is not the top face. When Austin was running around, never losing matches cleanly (without his neck injury, he would have won A LOT more during 1999. 1999 was the time when his neck was getting really bad, so they limited him. Even though they limited him, he still won almost every freaking match), The Rock was losing cleanly in some matches because he was #2. Heels beat the top faces cheaply to:
A) Set up a rematch because of a screwy finish
B) Get more heat

I just think your confusing Cena having the ability to change matches so he wins and Cena actually changing matches so that he wins. In this day and age, if Cena had done something like this, we probably would have heard of it.

PS - You didn't come off as rude, I don't know why you think you did.