http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/blog.php?8143-eire-attitude-91 Wrestling News and Discussion - eWrestlingNews.com Community en Thu, 23 May 2013 15:17:43 GMT vBulletin 10 http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/blog.php?8143-eire-attitude-91 http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/entry.php?1765-Hulk-Hogans-Legacy Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:24:21 GMT How will Hulk Hogan be remembered? His legacy is something I have wondered about recently as the man has received more and more negative press. So... How will Hulk Hogan be remembered? His legacy is something I have wondered about recently as the man has received more and more negative press. So much so that it will no doubt have to feature in how he is remembered.

The good of Hulk Hogan is that he was the person the wwf was able to build its company around that allowed them to become a mainstream organisation and grow and grow. The juggernaut that is the WWE we see today would not exist in its current form as it was Hogan who started the ball rolling so to speak. All that we have seen come after it is arguable was only possible as a result of Hogan’s iconic character. On the opposing side is the view that it was Vince McMahon’s vision and that he built the Hogan brand that allowed the mainstream society to buy into his product. This is certainly true however the view that Vince could’ve gotten anyone to play the Hogan role is false as one only has to look at all the people who have tried to play that role and failed i.e. ultimate warrior, John Cena and many more.

The legacy of HH of someone who provided some of the most iconic moments in Wrestling history in picking up Andre the Giant and body slamming him is one of the most famous moments in wwe history. The cultural impact he has had is phenomenal, he became a household name in a far less globalised and media friendly world than today’s. It could be argued also that it was his departure from the WWF to join WCW that started the Monday night wars due to the momentum WCW gained upon his arrival, which in turn led to a period where wrestling was at its most powerful and entertaining time. His role in the NWO gave us a stable and storyline that became so huge that he it ultimately collapsed due to WCW trying to capitalise on it and eventually trying to prolong it beyond its sell buy date in order to cash in. Hogan’s role in TNA though controversial has raised the profile of that company immensely, though it is possible the company would’ve reached this high profile in time, Hogan’s arrival has fast tracked its rise. It is arguable that the problems TNA now face are as a result of this quick rise and the company’s inability to deal with such a rise, meaning that the company may not have been ready for it or Hogan.


The negative aspects of Hogan’s legacy that I believe cannot be ignored are the negative public comments many have had to say about his role in WWF in keeping people down and being a master politician in the locker room. I know that certain people such as the ultimate worker have an axe to grind however there have been too many people over the years to have said this for it to be ignored. Similarly in WCW it could be argued that he played a Huge role in that company’s downfall with his backstage role and creative control that allowed him to have huge influence in the direction of that organisation. The huge contract he was on that had a clause in which he had to be paid higher than anyone who came to WCW which was a huge strain on the finances of that company meaning that anytime they landed a huge star they not only had to factor in the cost of the new star but the cost of Hogan’s rise among others who had similar contracts. The negative aspect of his arrival in TNA is that he is perceived as only being in it for the cash and is terrible at managing the organisation, highlighted by the promotion of his new book rather than TNA when he first arrived there and the perceived decline in the product of the organisation.

The view of Hogan in the media due to his personal problems though arguably irrelevant are important as they have occurred in the public sphere and therefore open to criticism and to be included in the interpretation of his legacy. The accident in which his son nick was involved was a tragic event that gained media coverage due to Hogan’s prominence, however Hogan’s willingness to contribute to the media coverage via interviews means that this is now relevant to public interpretation and debate and therefore taken into account when considering his legacy. In one such interview he referred to the injured party as being responsible for the injuries he sustained for having ‘bad karma’. The break up of his marriage in public along with all the negative aspects of a marriage break up occurring in the spotlight meant that very negative coverage of the man was frequent. Though you might say what has any of this have to do with the mans wrestling legacy it is important to remember that all of this occurring in the spotlight means that it has to be factored into his legacy as the media will include these incidents when considering his legacy.

I hope I have given a balanced view of what is both the positive and negative aspects I believe will be factored into the legacy of Hulk Hogan. Please leave your comments either negative or positive or any corrections you have ]]> eire attitude 91 http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/entry.php?1765-Hulk-Hogans-Legacy http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/entry.php?1455-Why-the-hate-for-the-Rock Sat, 02 Jul 2011 00:18:18 GMT Im not sure why but everyone seems to be hating on the rock lately. As a rocky fan I cant understand the reason for it Cena I think is just saying... Im not sure why but everyone seems to be hating on the rock lately. As a rocky fan I cant understand the reason for it

Cena I think is just saying stuff to promote the match and his interviews that provoked the rock as mentioned by rocky when he returned were done at the insistence of Vince in order to get what we now have the rock back in wwe.


I mean dont get me wrong we all know the man isnt going to stick around we knew it when he said it that it wasnt true but what else was he meant to say 'hey im back but ill be gone after mania' and get booe'd outta the building?

Randy orton said in a recent radio interview that the rock tried to get him in trouble with vince and who knows maybe he did but randy is not one to talk as in the same interview he threw so many of his co-workers under a bus im surprised 'Greyhound' didnt sponsor it, and lets not forget how he's buried Kofi for botching a move and Ken kennedy getn fired as well. not hating on randy just pointing out that he's in no position to pontify on the issue

punks shot at dwayne being in the main event at mania couldve been part of the whole work but its an issue that a lot of wrestlers seem to have a gripe with. The guys been gone seven years and he's in the main event, these are the same superstars who would complain that the rock is taking all their air time before wrestlemania 27


if the rock had stayed and remained in wwe he wouldve gotten stale like cena has not doubting the rocks ability but you can have too much of a good thing. the guy went out on top after putting over brock lesnar, and made sporadic appearances for a period of time after that.


stone cold left also around the same time but because he hadnt made movies or enjoy the success in movies as he currently does, he wasnt hated and rightfully so cause if any1 tried to hate on austin a can of whoop ass would have their name on it 'and thats all i got to say about that'. but the rock is hated as a sell out cause he left before he got too old and started to bore us and he's hated because he was successfull after wrestling. which is so childish to hate someone because they didnt end up having to stay wrestling cause they know nothong else like flair has to, . Id hate him if he stayed and became washed up and therefore ruin his legacy


I just cant see the logic in hating the rock for finding success after wrestling and leaving before he stank the joint up, and open up a spot for others, would cena have become such a huge face if the rock had stayed no cos the rock wouldve had that spot. much like hogan stopped a lot of guys from getting their shot in wcw not just through all the politics but the fact they had him there and a spot wasnt available. plus the rock doesnt work in a pg environment which meant the wwe wouldve parted ways with him or changed him from what we know and love so im glad he left when he did much like im glad he EVENTUALLY came back but I dont understand the guys who hate him


what do you guys think is it right to hate the rock and im just too much of a rocky mark to accept it or is the guy a sell out?? leave positive and negative comments ]]> eire attitude 91 http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/entry.php?1455-Why-the-hate-for-the-Rock http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/entry.php?1444-Randy-orton-too-big-for-his-boots Thu, 30 Jun 2011 05:18:18 GMT This is my first blog so if i make mistakes (which is very likely) dont be too hard on me. I am not a hater of randy or a fan in fact im not really... This is my first blog so if i make mistakes (which is very likely) dont be too hard on me. I am not a hater of randy or a fan in fact im not really affected by him either way be it face or heel which is a poor reflection on the guy as the one thing a 'superstar'should strive towards is a reaction be it negative or positive such as john cena...he gets both at the same time funnily enough, zack ryder then is a better example of a guy who went out and created his own reaction when wwe wouldnt push him.

the thing is with randy orton is that he never wanted to be a wwe 'superstar' (wrestler is a dirty word now) he admits himself that he got into it because of his father being able to get his foot in the door of the wwe after a bad spell he had with the marine corps. im not sure on this but apparantly he went awol etc someone with info on this would be better placed to elaborate on this. so he turned to wwe as a second choice and there is nothing wrong with that after all some of the greatest have done the same such as Goldberg after a football career cut short, the rock after his time with the miami hurricanes and numerous others for whom wwe was not there first calling. so heres my point the good and bad of randy orton weighed against the actions of the guy as a person and the question of him being too big for his boots for the level of success he has.

the good of orton is he is a great heel when he puts the effort in, his legend killer run was great and interesting and had legs as wwe were bringing back legends to be fed to him, which allowed us to also see some of our favourites again and hate him for beating em up, his run with evolution was good also, however his most effective heel run was when he went against hhh at wm25. he was punting vkm beatn up all the mcmahons including steph, just good work overall as you really wanted him to get his ass kicked.

as a face orton to me and maybe its just me but i believe im not alone here has always made me cringe, the man has no connection with the crowd you dont really cheer for him in the same way as you would a proper face because he doesnt fit as a face, hes too robotic with no emotion, which suits a badass heel of i dont care have no remorse kinda thing but the audience cant connect with a face whom they believe doesnt give a shit what he does. some of ortons best work has been with christian but i believe that is down to the better work of captain carisma, with better promo's than orton, and the better in ring performance,

the behaviour of orton is something that i believe is what stops him from getting over in a meaningful way by that i meant that if he didnt have the machince of wwe pushing him the audince wouldnt give a damn about him, ok maybe in the sense that oh its cowboy bob ortons son let see how this goes. the man is known too have done drugs which is what kept him from rising in his early career, not judging the man for that being offended by drugs in wrestling is like writing a letter of complaint because csi had a murder in the episode, but the maturity of a man who is also known too have pissed in the bags of the diva's (confirmed by torrie wilson) is questionable. the man recently was rude to reporters at an airport when asked about chris jericho and shane helms being arrested. nothing wrong with that until he learned they were from tmz and would therefore mainstream media coverage and not just locals or iwc and he changed his tune he was sweetness and light 'you guys take care' was how he ended the interview.

quite recently he gave a radio interview in which he refered to the rock as trying to get him in trouble with vkm, maybe this is true, however to do the childish thing of john cena's better than the rock anyway is bs, he said he didnt buy it when the rock said hed never leave OMG cause everyone of us did, we just enjoyed the rock when he was there and glad we knew he would be back at intervals for wm28, if he was at every raw orton and the others who trash him for leaving would say hes taking their air time etc as they do over wm28, John cena better mic skills than the rock really? really? really? he must still be on drugs if he thinks that, maybe he does have better mic skills but weve never seen em, he then went on to say kelly kelly has 'Method acted' aka boom chicka wha wha(mature ino) with at least 10 other wrestlers, so what those lucky sob's id give my left nut for that, he said the 2 actresses who played his wife were awful and reiterated it several times, so what their roles were to scream at hhh or punk the wwe isnt going to hire jessica alba for that.he mentioned his concusion again well done to wrestle with one but hhh wrestled with a torn quad, miz at wm with the same, stone cold broke his neck, mick foley got up and finished the most awesome hiac match ever, but i keep hearing about randys concussion. the guy is an asshole in my opinion but that does not detract from his ability i just wish he would focus more on improving his matches and promo's and realise his potential rather than gettin himself ino awkward situations

anyway leave your comments negative or positive or mixed, what do ye think has he gotten too big for his boots or have i been too hard on the guy?? ]]> eire attitude 91 http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/entry.php?1444-Randy-orton-too-big-for-his-boots