I was actually most surprised how the album reached out and grabbed me. I was playing it in the background while tooling around on the comp. And trust me Ape, I don't fuck about when it comes to music - I am not what you call a casual fan. When I like something, it's pretty much locked in and I'll seek it out, all of it!

Hey I'm listening to Deftones as I write this. Fucking awesome. I had kinda lost it on new music but this has turned me right around

Lol. Thank you for closing my failed Manager thread. I most certainly agree.

The usual awkwardness was thicker than I've felt it in a while. Can't remember a moment of genuine family togetherness the whole night. Every smile, hug or laugh seemed scripted. Sad, really.

You survive Thanksgiving, chief?

Haha, now it's your turn to be "hacked"!

He's a bit familiar Wwf1998. Or maybe all trolls are alike

I didn't like him in the first season much... but he has came on in the second season. I'm really stocked for joss whedon's new show shield. I don't know if you have heard much about it... but any show with joss whedon show is going to be epic.

I don't know if you have watched suits but it's a pretty solid show. white collar has been on the decline for the reasons you talked about... it follows a formula and sometimes that formula is just too predictable. Suits has pretty great actors in it, I'd go as far as to say the character louis litt from suits is my favorite character on tv... he is one of the most dynamic characters and he is very relate-able in the sense he tries to do the right thing all the time, just sometimes he is misguided. the only character on tv that is more dynamic is walter white IMO.

no order for me as well but my top five would probably be suits, community, white collar, new girl, and probably still how I met your mother... I'd probably put breaking bad there but I haven't watched enough of it to call it one of my top five favorite shows. I might of put the big bang theory there as well if the current season was better. elementary is showing a lot of promise, but as one of my friends pointed out it would of probably been better off not calling itself a sherlock holmes show because of how good the other current sherlock holmes series happens to be.