Wrestlemania 28: John Cena vs. The Rock *KEEP IT HERE!*

[benchch]

Just the perfect thread for me to vent

I am in shock that creative went this way with it. For me the problem is the way Cena acts like a child, and the fact that none of what theyre saying is relevant to a feud they would have.

Cena comes out makes fun of himself so we all know nothing you can say can get one up on him. That is ok cos the rock is pretty powerful with the insults. But the fact that while both are in the ring Cena is STILL joking and goofing means he isn't taking the rock seriously. Great build to a match billed a year in advance. Mix in Cena's stale I am what I am, waste of time.

Then the rock comes out. Theres so much he could say cos Cena is a different era. But the best he has (or most probably creative cos its the most dumb move to go in this feud) is that the rock sees fear in his eyes. gimme a break. please. Hes acting too much like a goof ball to know how convey fear.

And finally. The way Cena comes across isn't very accessible. Because he acts so self indulgent you can't tell how to take it. He might as well have facepaint and be juggling. Because he is acting like a clown.

I really feel bad watching wrestling. because this is meant to be what its all about. And it is already blunt.

I tried to keep this short so people would read this and not get bored. But man oh man its nothing compared to the disappointment I'm feeling.

[Dubs]

Just the perfect thread for me to vent

I am in shock that creative went this way with it. For me the problem is the way Cena acts like a child, and the fact that none of what theyre saying is relevant to a feud they would have.

Cena comes out makes fun of himself so we all know nothing you can say can get one up on him. That is ok cos the rock is pretty powerful with the insults. But the fact that while both are in the ring Cena is STILL joking and goofing means he isn't taking the rock seriously. Great build to a match billed a year in advance. Mix in Cena's stale I am what I am, waste of time.

Then the rock comes out. Theres so much he could say cos Cena is a different era. But the best he has (or most probably creative cos its the most dumb move to go in this feud) is that the rock sees fear in his eyes. gimme a break. please. Hes acting too much like a goof ball to know how convey fear.

And finally. The way Cena comes across isn't very accessible. Because he acts so self indulgent you can't tell how to take it. He might as well have facepaint and be juggling. Because he is acting like a clown.

I really feel bad watching wrestling. because this is meant to be what its all about. And it is already blunt.

I tried to keep this short so people would read this and not get bored. But man oh man its nothing compared to the disappointment I'm feeling.

The Rock making Twitter and Transvestite Wonder-Women jokes isn't exactly taking things seriously.

[ParagonOfVirtue]

I agree with most of the posts, and yeah, the in-ring exchange at the end was pretty lame. BUT... The pre-recorded bits from Rock in Boston, at least the first two, and especially the Paul Revere bit, were magic. It was classic Rock at his finest. I was having flashbacks to some of his fueds in the attitude era, and I was loving it. Pulled out a few of his then-constant lines that he hasn't breathed in ages. But, for as much as I enjoyed it, by the end of the night it was forgotten and the exchange is getting stale. I don't think they need to come to blows yet necessarily, but they need to do something to break it up a bit. We can't have three more weeks of this crap. Have one or the other tamper with the others locker or gym bag. Have one or the other sabotage a tour bus. But.... we've got face vs. face, Rock's trying to act semi-serious so he won't resort to shenanigans, and Cena's just plain too damn stale to do anything like that to begin with. We need something to happen to break the monotony, but it's too soon to come to blows, unless of course, you have the locker room empty to break it up before it really gets going, and then you could possibly have a no-confrontation stipulation and then work around the fact that they need to be seperated. Hell I don't know, this is all off the cuff, but damn, for all the damn time they've had on the mic, only about 5 minutes of it has been entertaining. At least that's my opinion. Create your own value.

[bearkg88]

I still find it entertaining. I mean we expected the fruity pebbles chants but then we got a Tooth fairy chant and you could tell the Rock wasn't expecting that.

I also wish they would have more Jericho vs Punk promos before WM.

I agree Rich. While I enjoyed the Jericho/Bryan vs Punk/Sheamus match, I was kind of disappointed Punk and Jericho didn't get any mic time. And the tooth fairy chant was priceless!

[CM_SUXX_NOT]

You know what really pisses me off about this that I say it's ruining Wrestling for me?

It's a face vs face feud. Meaning both of these guys are supposed to such hot faces and have faced EVERYONE and are so over, they have nobody left to face but themselves. You let the crowd choose for themselves in these matches, you don't give a hammed up good vs evil storyline. You just choose who you like more.

But no. One guy can't get booed more than the other. So we have to plant fake worked shoots (as if they weren't already fake enough) and build up fake hype for him.

1. Hype can't be fake. They are really HYPING their match.
2. The idea that they're WORKED shoots means they're fake.
3. There is more to wrestling than The Rock vs John Cena. WWE is about short matches, promos, cheap pops, entertainment and PPV hype. Companies like TNA and ROH work towards the wrestling side of the business. They sound more suitable for you.

If my points aren't valid and I'm just being a dick, let me know guys. I'm just tired of people bitching and whining about the negatives when there are so many positives. If Cena wants to semi-shoot on The Rock, cool. If Cena's made out to have the upper hand, cool. Not every feud has to be face vs heel (fair enough, it helps) but when it's a match as big as this; when two generations collide, you don't need a heel.

[ParagonOfVirtue]

I agree Rich. While I enjoyed the Jericho/Bryan vs Punk/Sheamus match, I was kind of disappointed Punk and Jericho didn't get any mic time.

^ THIS. WTB MORE PUNK/JERICHO! YES, we all know it doesn't have to have the hype because it's going to be the best pure wrestling match on the card. YES, we know wwe wants it to take a backseat to Trips/Taker III, and RoCena. But dammit, these are two of the best guys on the mic in all of wrestling! Stop having Punk act as if Jericho isn't a threat, and stop having Jericho act like a whiny little bitch. I want to see more of the last few seconds of Jericho's exchange with Punk where he got mad, and more of the look on Punk's face after the roll-up reversal. Jericho can be a great heel without being whiny, and Punk can be dominate on the mic without trying to act like he's Hogan's size, both physically and in his massive ego-brain. Yes, Punk has always been cocky, but not like he's acting lately. Jericho deserves better than that, and Punk deserves a better return from Jericho as well. Jericho is without a doubt one of my favorites, as is CM Punk, but my god man, stop pursing your damn lips so much when you talk and otherwise. What does he do? Suck a bag of lemons before he steps out of the back? Blah, i'll cut this short and head over to the P/J thread where it belongs :P

[Bralon23]

1. Hype can't be fake. They are really HYPING their match.
2. The idea that they're WORKED shoots means they're fake.
3. There is more to wrestling than The Rock vs John Cena. WWE is about short matches, promos, cheap pops, entertainment and PPV hype. Companies like TNA and ROH work towards the wrestling side of the business. They sound more suitable for you.

If my points aren't valid and I'm just being a dick, let me know guys. I'm just tired of people bitching and whining about the negatives when there are so many positives. If Cena wants to semi-shoot on The Rock, cool. If Cena's made out to have the upper hand, cool. Not every feud has to be face vs heel (fair enough, it helps) but when it's a match as big as this; when two generations collide, you don't need a heel.

This is exactly what needed to be said. Thank you.

[shang123]

1. Hype can't be fake. They are really HYPING their match.
2. The idea that they're WORKED shoots means they're fake.
3. There is more to wrestling than The Rock vs John Cena. WWE is about short matches, promos, cheap pops, entertainment and PPV hype. Companies like TNA and ROH work towards the wrestling side of the business. They sound more suitable for you.

If my points aren't valid and I'm just being a dick, let me know guys. I'm just tired of people bitching and whining about the negatives when there are so many positives. If Cena wants to semi-shoot on The Rock, cool. If Cena's made out to have the upper hand, cool. Not every feud has to be face vs heel (fair enough, it helps) but when it's a match as big as this; when two generations collide, you don't need a heel.

CM Punk's shoot was a worked shoot. It was a planned shoot where he went off an ACTUAL things. Having a fake worked shoot where you pre-plan having written notes so you can shoot on it is just dumb. Cut a damn promo that's good enough to win the audience instead of some fake-pseudo shoot.

I've been watching WWE and wrestling for like 15 years now you don't really need to say "TNAs more suitable to me" as if I've never heard of the company or don't know that TNA or ROH are more inclined to the "wrasslin aspects".

The two Rock first bits were funny tonight, but it dragged on (WHICH IS FINE). But the fact that they INTENTIONALLY PLANNED for it to drag on, in order to get the other guy over, is just stupid. It's a face vs face match, if the audience wants to choose 75-25% then so be it. The other guy just isn't as over then.

Also, I don't understand the point of having a super serious Cena promo (which was a good promo). I LOLed at the part about him being on the "Rock's List of beaten guys" when in the last couple of Rock matches he's lost to Evolution, Hurricane, Goldberg. And Cena's tapped out more big guys than the Rock's beat.

[shang123]

Just the perfect thread for me to vent

I am in shock that creative went this way with it. For me the problem is the way Cena acts like a child, and the fact that none of what theyre saying is relevant to a feud they would have.

Cena comes out makes fun of himself so we all know nothing you can say can get one up on him. That is ok cos the rock is pretty powerful with the insults. But the fact that while both are in the ring Cena is STILL joking and goofing means he isn't taking the rock seriously. Great build to a match billed a year in advance. Mix in Cena's stale I am what I am, waste of time.

Then the rock comes out. Theres so much he could say cos Cena is a different era. But the best he has (or most probably creative cos its the most dumb move to go in this feud) is that the rock sees fear in his eyes. gimme a break. please. Hes acting too much like a goof ball to know how convey fear.

And finally. The way Cena comes across isn't very accessible. Because he acts so self indulgent you can't tell how to take it. He might as well have facepaint and be juggling. Because he is acting like a clown.

I really feel bad watching wrestling. because this is meant to be what its all about. And it is already blunt.

I tried to keep this short so people would read this and not get bored. But man oh man its nothing compared to the disappointment I'm feeling.

I just thought it was funny they had this super serious Cena promo, then he comes out and goes "HEY GAIZ I'M FIGHTAN DA ROCK, HE'S DA BEST. YOU SHOULD ALL AGREE WITH ME FOR A CHEAP POP!" And then five minutes later... "I AIN'T NEVER SCURRED, DIS MA HOME TURF". When just in November he's booed relentlessly there.

Also I completely forgot they're still 3 weeks away (it's felt like it's been forever) so yeah after next week I'd expect some action.

[Wade Barrett 1979]

My psychic powers grow stronger! Before I even clicked on the thread, I knew there would be; ZOMG!!! Cena is lame, ZOMG!!! The Rock is being made to demean himself, ZOMG!!! This is WWE's perverse attempts to put Cena over at the expense of Rock's credibility. ZOMG!!! They are trying to prevent Cena being booed out of the building, at Wrestlemania.

*Patiently awaits responses of; ZOMG!! You're a Cena mark, you don't understand*

I'm so on the fence about these two, I'll be having splinters pulled out my arse from now until WM! I just want a good match. My interests lie elsewhere!