WWE Fantasy Fed - Official Discussion Thread

[K2Jelly]

I repeat...

Can we expect Nitro today?

[S.E. Zero]

Best Match: I'll go with the main event. Mainly because of the story behind it. UK's numbers are getting to be a determining factor in a lot of what they do, so I'm looking forward to seeing where Black and Rhodes go from here, realizing they may need more help they originally thought in just having the 2 of them take on the 3 that is The UK.

Best Promo: Jericho/Aries. Set up the storyline quite nicely and it's making their title match a very anticipated one. Also Jericho, can't seem to go 2 phrases with mentioning Punk Move on, bro

Best Piece of Booking: I'll go with the Divas tourney, since the race to see who will the final 5 women competing at the Bash for a shot at the gold at SummerSlam is getting really close and anything can happen so I really look forward to seeing who those finals 5 ladies will be and which 2 will square off at SS.

Best Debut *when applicable*: I wanna go with The Kings but it's not in me to be selfish. So Sandow gets this one. They had debut matches so it counts

Any Piece of Booking You Didn't Like: 2 things actually. Two contradictions in character really. First is Punk looking on every 2 seconds for the mystery man during his match with Cena, when in the beginning promo, a statement was made by Punk that he would not let this mystery man get under his skin. It made Punk look weak and unfocused at the task at the hand (defeating Cena), I mean he knew the masked man would appear so all he really had to do was wait and be ready to strike should that happen, rather keep looking on almost in fear like he did which in the end indeed cost him the match.

The second was Cena. Why? Choosing to rescue Punk, helping him up and shaking hands out of respect was all fine and dandy for a face but the proceeding rap in which not only he makes fun of Punk but it made it so in a heel like fashion to me was extremely out of character.

Yo, Yo Yo, It's been too long now, too, too long
Punk, I proved you should stay at home, wearing your thong

There may have been a masked man, but you still didn't win
But with this defeat, you throw your title hopes in a bin

This makes Cena look like a spoiled brat who when he wins has to rub it in the loser's face, not a quality fitting in one of the top faces if the fed unless the direction you're looking to transition him into is in fact towards becoming a heel.

Faces need to be face, not only through their actions but their promos as well and this was a promo that gave me (as an audience member, so to speak) a mixed feeling towards Cena and whether he is a face or becoming a heel. So define that and run with it, next Raw.

Any Matches and/or Promos That Could've Been Improved: The Kane promo for 2 things, is he now going to be unmasked? Uncertainty in that regard due to an unmasked picture of him being used made the promo weird for me and second, hearing from Batista during said promo might have been good or showing how that there is more to Batista then just lying in wait for a chance to strike, if that is what you plan on doing.

Any Other Positives: Stellar promos from Sandow/Hogan, the tag teams and from The UK.

Any Other Constructive Criticism: Follow the changes made in character of our versions of the characters we use vs the ones in real life. I touched on this subject earlier, so hopefully it sticks.

Overall Show Grade: Knowing there wont another Raw for well over 2 weeks, makes Zero a sad man but overall it was a decent show that to me gets a B+

[No_1eddiefan]

I repeat...

I doubt it. Missing a few promos and I wanna write the show as a whole so I'll not get started til I get all promos.

[K2Jelly]

I doubt it. Missing a few promos and I wanna write the show as a whole so I'll not get started til I get all promos.

Dammit. Was hoping I'd get to read Full Throttle and Nitro in one day.

Name & shame?

[S.E. Zero]

I am among those promos waiting to be handed to Nitro, so I name and shame myself.

[Destruction]

With Cena S.E.Z, although I see your point, I never believed I fully portrayed him as a full face, always on the tweener side, leaning towards a face, as that's always been the way of Cena I enjoyed. Plus, it shows that he wants to be considered a title challenger, regardless of whether a face or heel is in his past.

Although despite that, I must say, this was easily my worst Cena promo so far. Reading it back, I'm disappointed I handed it in, but I guess that's one of the drawbacks of rushing a late promo on your brother's computer

[TTC]

Any Matches and/or Promos That Could've Been Improved: The Kane promo for 2 things, is he now going to be unmasked? Uncertainty in that regard due to an unmasked picture of him being used made the promo weird for me and second, hearing from Batista during said promo might have been good or showing how that there is more to Batista then just lying in wait for a chance to strike, if that is what you plan on doing.

I would like to say that I used the second picture of Kane unmasked to get my point across of one way he has put nightmares on people. I know I could have used a better one, but I felt like the unmasking of Kane scared the shit of some kids and to let you know, Kane is going to be masked for sure.

[K2Jelly]

I am among those promos waiting to be handed to Nitro, so I name and shame myself.

*slaps S.E. Zero on the wrist*

Bad, Zero. Bad.

[S.E. Zero]

With Cena S.E.Z, although I see your point, I never believed I fully portrayed him as a full face, always on the tweener side, leaning towards a face, as that's always been the way of Cena I enjoyed. Plus, it shows that he wants to be considered a title challenger, regardless of whether a face or heel is in his past.

Although despite that, I must say, this was easily my worst Cena promo so far. Reading it back, I'm disappointed I handed it in, but I guess that's one of the drawbacks of rushing a late promo on your brother's computer

I understand but his actions spoke as a face. I'm going off based of his actions. The saying actions speak louder than words is very true to me and if you act like a face, the promos should be as a face.

I get the tweener side of it all, gives you range with Cena as far character development goes but for that tweener vibe he needs to show hesitation or flat out avoid the right thing from time to time whether the fans like it or not. He needs to show more of the insight that's he's into it just for himself and pleasing himself than doing the things he does and not because it will make the fans happy which was the case more or less here.

Choosing to save Punk was a crowd pleasing move. There in my thinking he was a full face rather than a tweener.

[S.E. Zero]

I would like to say that I used the second picture of Kane unmasked to get my point across of one way he has put nightmares on people. I know I could have used a better one, but I felt like the unmasking of Kane scared the shit of some kids and to let you know, Kane is going to be masked for sure.

This to me would've worked better had Kane not spent so many years unmasked. The fear he installed to me as a child was through the mask and the demon that was behind it. When he was unmasked, it was like there was no need to be afraid of him and the WWE (real one) made it so across the years. I thought that would be the case here, by going with the unmasked route, to me, Kane would've lost some of his appeal in this fed as the heel that he is. Glad to know it wont be the case.