WWE Fantasy Fed - Official Discussion Thread

[bearkg88]

Sorry for not providing feedback yet. I will. Jut had to get the IWA show up. Within the next few days I will.

Also I haven't recieved anything for the Nitro promo, just putting that out there. I know there were a few before me, but it's been a couple days now

[S.E. Zero]

Favorite Moment: Going with masses and say UK looking strong at the end. Was a great way to finish off Raw.

Best Match: Sheamus vs Rhodes. It was a fantastically well done main event. Had a great setup with promo beforehand so it was quite awesome to see it.

Best Promo: Definitely the UK/Punk/Black/Rhodes promo. Hats off to everyone involved in that one. I loved how that promo came out.

Best Piece of Booking: The hype towards the WWE Women's Championship and the 3 women promo that came with it. That match should truly be a great one.

Best Debut *when applicable*: Does James Jackson count? :S

Any Piece of Booking You Didn't Like: Probably that as far as I read only Aries vs Jericho II was confirmed for SummerSlam. I expected at least 3 matches to be confirmed as far as Raw goes. Many matches I see are expected to happen like Sandow/Hogan 2, DX vs AAP, Raven's Flock vs Sting and Goldberg and a possible 4 on 4 match between UK vs Punk/Black/Rhodes/Angle match as well but to have them be confirmed as to taking place is what I wanted to see this Raw and hope to continue seeing along the next few Raws.

Any Matches and/or Promos That Could've Been Improved: The Raven's Flock/Sting storyline (which I'm not sure if it includes Goldberg or not but I have a feeling it will after Raven attacked him). I don't mean to be rude but this feud has been lost among the other storylines here on Raw. I haven't paid nearly as much attention as I should until tonight with the return of Abyss. I don't know why but I always picture this feud getting more attention and spotlight it should have on Nitro rather than Raw. Raw has so many things going for it that this feud could do great things for Nitro instead. That's just me, though.

Any Other Positives: The Tag Team scene. Seeing DX arrive and immediately set their sights on the tag team championships was good though other teams should be able to make their case as to why they should be next in line for the gold. Maybe we could even see a tag team turmoil match at SummerSlam to determine future #1 contenders at the gold. Teams I'd use for that match? Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team, Beer Money, Cryme Tyme, Kings of Wrestling, Prime Time Players and even throw in a few surprise teams no one would see coming like The Motor City Machine Guns should someone here in the WWE fed control them or should want to.

There are more I'll add in later.

Anything else that fell below your expectation: Just the lack of an appearance by Angle in the UK attack. He's made it clear he's willing to join the fight against them so when Punk and Black went out to save Rhodes, I expected to see Angle along with them or to join shortly after. this was not the case and I do believe him being there would have been a determining factor in how Raw could have ended.

How would you improve the negative comments (if any): I didn't give out that many negative comments and when I did, I explained why and how I would gave fixed them already.

Overall Show Grade: A-

Here are my questions, again please answer these I feel they are important:

1) How was the commentary and bridging between segments this week? What is a better transition, promo's or commentary? Commentary was helpful in transitioning between matches but for my tastes I prefer more backstage promos. There can't be too many in ring promos (to explain myself better) the main ones can be in ring but backstage interviews, brawls (pending the feud) and just general segments showing what goes on backstage (like say a Superstar arriving to the arena, people hanging out in the catering area and so on) can be used from time to time and help with transitions in future instances.

2) Regardless of how many posts the show was and the length of the promos, how long would you have considered this show had you been watching it, in terms of hours, minutes etc.? And to add to this, how many hours do you think a typical show like a RAW or Nitro should be in terms of time for an efed, and how long should a PPV be in terms of time for an efed? I feel you emulate Raw quite nicely. Big promo starts the show, have about 3-4 matches along with promos to give it that hour long feel to it. Halfway through another big promo as well followed by 2-3 more matches and another small batch of promos. Usually ending with a fantastic main event match. Feels like a 2 maybe 2 and a half hour Raw which is quite nice. Giving it that sense of reality that this could actually be a real live Raw.

[eyehatecena]

yeah i get what you are saying SEZ with the Raven/Sting feud being lost in the shuffle so to say- there is a lot going on with Raw and Nitro, but i guess they are going with a slow buildup with the Flock being revealed which I agree with(plus with my break from efeding it worked out great). As far as Goldberg, it was his opponent from the match that Raven attacked, not Goldberg. Getting back to the Flock, like i said, i think its better to reveal the members like THBK did, as a surprise, one at a time. Even i do not know when the next will be revealed- i know who it is though- his initials are The Honkeytonk Man

[THE HEARTBREAK KID]

Thanks for the feedback guys.

EHC:

I wrote the Raven segment so I'm glad it went down well with you and Eddie. As for Abyss, I also would have liked a promo from him, but with no Tyndall, there was no chance of that.

Zero:

No James Jackson don't count lol. I made him up, I wrote the segment with Abyss/Sting before the Goldberg match was done, if you notice in the segment, I never mention the guys name. simply because I didn't know if we were going to have Goldberg vs someone on the roster or another jobber.

Abyss debuted, so did DX as a team.

Also, Raven didn't attack Goldberg man. You may have got confused when I said "Raven steamrolls through the exiting opponent of Goldberg" Again, I didn't name because I was unsure who the opponent was at the time.

[THE HEARTBREAK KID]

yeah i get what you are saying SEZ with the Raven/Sting feud being lost in the shuffle so to say- there is a lot going on with Raw and Nitro, but i guess they are going with a slow buildup with the Flock being revealed which I agree with(plus with my break from efeding it worked out great). As far as Goldberg, it was his opponent from the match that Raven attacked, not Goldberg. Getting back to the Flock, like i said, i think its better to reveal the members like THBK did, as a surprise, one at a time. Even i do not know when the next will be revealed- i know who it is though- his initials are The Honkeytonk Man

Yeah I too get what he is saying, I had the feud all planned out and so many things happened that changed my mind many times which has maybe slowed down the pace. I believe what has been done has been top notch from both Torphy and EHC though and will continue to do so.

[THE HEARTBREAK KID]

Sorry for not providing feedback yet. I will. Jut had to get the IWA show up. Within the next few days I will.

Also I haven't recieved anything for the Nitro promo, just putting that out there. I know there were a few before me, but it's been a couple days now

No problem man, look forward too it.

Oh really? okay, I will look into this.

[S.E. Zero]

Zero:

No James Jackson don't count lol. I made him up, I wrote the segment with Abyss/Sting before the Goldberg match was done, if you notice in the segment, I never mention the guys name. simply because I didn't know if we were going to have Goldberg vs someone on the roster or another jobber.

Abyss debuted, so did DX as a team.

Also, Raven didn't attack Goldberg man. You may have got confused when I said "Raven steamrolls through the exiting opponent of Goldberg" Again, I didn't name because I was unsure who the opponent was at the time.

I know he doesn't count hence the weird > :S lol I was just messing about.

I don't see DX as a debut, both members were already active on the roster. Abyss was really the only debut but without a promo to go along with his debut, I don't if I would have called his debut the best. This really only benefits Abyss if he's going to be the somewhat silent monster he was back in around when he was with Mitchell in the early stages if their union. Raven could just have him be a silent threat, let his actions speak louder than his words would.

That scene should've been detailed as I literally figured Raven did attack Goldberg. Sorry for my mistake then.

[THE HEARTBREAK KID]

I know he doesn't count hence the weird > :S lol I was just messing about.

I don't see DX as a debut, both members were already active on the roster. Abyss was really the only debut but without a promo to go along with his debut, I don't if I would have called his debut the best. This really only benefits Abyss if he's going to be the somewhat silent monster he was back in around when he was with Mitchell in the early stages if their union. Raven could just have him be a silent threat, let his actions speak louder than his words would.

That scene should've been detailed as I literally figured Raven did attack Goldberg. Sorry for my mistake then.

Well he will be the very silent monster if we don't hear back from Tyndall I'm not sure I could write as Abyss, it's good that he's paired with Raven though who can carry the speaking side of the group.

[TTC]

Well he will be the very silent monster if we don't hear back from Tyndall I'm not sure I could write as Abyss, it's good that he's paired with Raven though who can carry the speaking side of the group.

Oh oh oh! Pick me! I can write for Abyss at Tyndall's absence. I mean I write for Kane, so hard can the difference be.

[No_1eddiefan]

Oh oh oh! Pick me! I can write for Abyss at Tyndall's absence. I mean I write for Kane, so hard can the difference be.

Mate, I think you've got enough on your plate as Beer Money, Kane and Rey Mysterio somehow