Originally Posted by
Peter Kaymakcian
Your argument for letting Lesnar beat Cena is that Brock was a former UFC Heavyweight Champion? That's like the NFL telling the AFL to play their Super Bowl Champions and let that AFL team wins. It makes your company look like a joke. Cena losing to Brock Lesnar only sends the message that the former guys are better than the current guys. As for your comment about the Rock that was completely different. Cena wasn't coming off one of the biggest loses of his career against the Rock. Cena wasn't being completely dominated when he lost to the Rock. However with Brock Lesnar you have a guy who came back was completely dominating your face of the company after he came off of the biggest loss of his career. Also comparing Brock Lesnar to the Rock is completely wrong. You have the Rock who is arguably the biggest star ever in WWE to Brock who left the WWE at the peak of his career for eight years. Losing to the Rock was just losing to an Icon, while Brock was a big star was no Rock. Now as for your building a bigger star theory how do you know that this new star is going to have the drawing power of John Cena? Why should the WWE risk their poster boy who still has two to three years left at least for an unknown commodity? It makes zero sense in terms of a business aspect, again. Sure maybe you could have someone like Cody Rhodes or Dolph Ziggler take over for Cena, but are you willing to bank all your money on that? Are you willing to guarantee that someone like Sheamus or Wade Barrett is going to be your next John Cena? Because if you are going to take someone as popular as Cena and turn them into nothing you better be damn sure that they are going to have the drawing power and the merchandise sales that John Cena was giving you.
CM Punk has no drawing power? You mean the only other guy to top John Cena in merchandising sales in I believe three years. That guy has no drawing power? Now I don't know if you are talking about UFC or WWE PPVs, but if its the former then boy you are comparing apples to oranges. UFC PPVs are going to be higher because UFC has more fans because of the fact that its a little more respected then the WWE. People look at UFC as a real sport because it isn't scripted so more people tend to watch it and respect it. Where as the WWE and any other wrestling organization isn't going to get that much hype and respect in North America because people look at it as fake. To see how big of a difference it is compare Monday Night Football to Monday Night Raw. Both are around the same time, but MNF gets a much higher rating because football is more widely watched and is more accepted then professional wrestling. You can never compare a real sport to wrestling in terms of numbers because it isn't fair.
You can't go comparing other sports to pro wrestling, the logic of that flaws.
Yeah, you are right that before the Rock he wasn't coming of a huge loss, but he damn sure was talking about how that match was so important and that he couldn't afford to lose and yet he lost. But he didn't lost credibility. Actually, he did a very good promo afterwards which may have raised his like-ability to other people. They could've easily pushed this match a few months back so Cena could get a few wins back.
Who knows, Rock may be the biggest star, but Brock Lesnar is the biggest PPV draw in the world, and that is still WWE's main business. That certainly makes Brock a different kind of guy, maybe no icon in pro wrestling, but certainly a bigger star in the whole picture.
I never said they should stop making Cena a drawing card and push him down the card. I mean, why not have Orton or Sheamus or Punk or maybe another guy beat Lesnar clean to make him a star that is equal on the level of a guy like John Cena, a guy that transcends the pro wrestling world. Just like Austin and Rock in the Attitude Era. Why settle for 1 star if you can have 2 stars? And let's be honest. Did Cena really needed the win to elevate his star appeal? He'll probably be on this level for the rest of his wrestling career, which is pretty damn great.
Yes, CM Punk has no drawing power. TV audience declines almost everytime he is on TV, which is a shame, because I like the guy, but he doesn't click with the casual audience. Yes, he did top John Cena in merchandise sales last year, but for 1 month. CM Punk is in no way the kind of draw that John Cena is.
Actually WWE has way more PPV audience than UFC has, if you consider it on a worldwide basis. WWE is in almost every country, UFC not.
The fact that people regard UFC as a real sport is a factor, but without stars, the UFC is also nothing. Both WWE and UFC thrive on the creation of stars. When they have a lot of stars, they do great business, if not, business declines, which is the case for WWE for several years, while UFC also has steadily been declining in the last 2 years.
It's not really the fake vs real, but the number of stars, which should be easy for WWE since they can script the whole thing, UFC doesn't have that ability, yet they have more stars.
I remember reading a story about MNF that they wanted to go off Monday in the Attitude Era, because Raw was doing so great. Obviously the fake vs real wasn't a factor back then.
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