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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. McMahon View Post
    what's with people bashing attitude era? 3 years ago everyone complained that wwe should go back to attitude, now its cool to bash it, wtf?

    yes the attitude era has shit matches, but seriously you should know better as WWF is about entertainment and not wrestling, go watch ROH if you want wrestling. WWF will never be famous for its wrestling, but always for its entertainment, something attitude era and post attitude era provided, heck even the new generation era was entertaining, this PG crap is complete bullshit. I wouldn't mind if WWE went back to post-attitude, atleast they were still entertaining.

    quit bashing attitude era, it was the best thing ever, EVER! Hogan did make WWF lots of money in the 80s, but attitude era made even more with DX, Rock, Austin etc... and why? cause people loved it, cause it was entertaining.

    I will say it again, wrestling is a violent 'sport', it should not be PG. Kids was WWF in attitude era, Vince knows this. He doesn't need to make the show PG to get kids, there were shitload of kids watching attitude era... just look at the merchandise sales, all the action figures, video games, shirts. I remember every other kid in my school wore an Austin 3:16 shirt, who say's kids weren't watching attitude era?

    WWE going PG is not gonna help kids, they will still pick up violence/swearing etc from movies, music, games etc...
    I agree with you that the Attitude era was great. I remember guys that used to make fun of wrestling during the 80's and upon the emergence of the attitude era they were sporting Stone Cold t shirts and mimicking the Rock. One cant say that the attitude era didn't usher in a new allegiance of fans in my book!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. McMahon View Post
    quit bashing attitude era, it was the best thing ever, EVER! Hogan did make WWF lots of money in the 80s, but attitude era made even more with DX, Rock, Austin etc... and why? cause people loved it, cause it was entertaining.
    The thing is, it didn't. It made them ratings, but not a lot of advertisers, how TV shows make money, didn't want to be apart of. That's why Mattel, a big name toy company, now makes WWE Figures instead of Jakks, who only did it because they were a no name company at the time to WWE's big name.

    WWE going PG is not gonna help kids, they will still pick up violence/swearing etc from movies, music, games etc...
    But it is going to help the WWE as parents will see it's okay for letting their children watch because they don't swear and do too violent things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Cranium View Post
    I agree with you that the Attitude era was great. I remember guys that used to make fun of wrestling during the 80's and upon the emergence of the attitude era they were sporting Stone Cold t shirts and mimicking the Rock. One cant say that the attitude era didn't usher in a new allegiance of fans in my book!
    Every generation did that. 80s made new fans and alienated the 70s fans. Then 90s to 80s and 2000s to 90s, and now 2010s to 2000s. In 2020, you'll hear people complain comparing them to this generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Cranium View Post
    Cool, this is like a way to vent your frustrations. Ok, my turn.

    The F'n (I mean that with a capital F) guest host B.S. is the stupidest idea ive ever heard! These guys dont know sh@# about wrestling nor do they really care! All they care about is plugging their movie or album which is often horrible (why else would they go to something they dont even watch)!

    Ah, feel better now. Thanks Darkside.
    Everybody hates the guest host idea. Its dumb and pointless. A guess coming to Raw to kiss ass and promote there movies or such and such. It was good when Shaq came but got boring after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. McMahon View Post
    what's with people bashing attitude era? 3 years ago everyone complained that wwe should go back to attitude, now its cool to bash it, wtf?
    You do realise it's the unpopular opinion thread, right? Hating on the Attitude era has always been an unpopular opinion, probably always will be.

    yes the attitude era has shit matches, but seriously you should know better as WWF is about entertainment and not wrestling, go watch ROH if you want wrestling. WWF will never be famous for its wrestling, but always for its entertainment, something attitude era and post attitude era provided[...]
    This is true. Quite a large number of attitude era supporters will try to convince everyone that the wrestling back then was much better, but it really wasn't. A bit of claret and more "extreme" bumps made cage matches a lot more exciting, but that's about it really.

    heck even the new generation era was entertaining, this PG crap is complete bullshit. I wouldn't mind if WWE went back to post-attitude, atleast they were still entertaining.

    quit bashing attitude era, it was the best thing ever, EVER! Hogan did make WWF lots of money in the 80s, but attitude era made even more with DX, Rock, Austin etc... and why? cause people loved it, cause it was entertaining.
    Sounds like classic nostalgia filter to me, mate. Have you tried watching any attitude era stuff lately? I have, and I really wish I hadn't.... there were literally tons of terrible gimmicks and wrestlers and storylines I had forgotten about. Vince Russo and Ed Ferrara WERE employed by WWE for most of this era, remember.

    And while DX, Rock, Austin etc are among the most fondly remembered characters ever in wrestling, I think it had more to do with these guys' naturally charisma a lot more than TV-14 and innuendo. A lot of the popular guys from the era were well loved before the attitude era. (and after, for the ones who still wrestle(d)... even into PG!)

    I will say it again, wrestling is a violent 'sport', it should not be PG. Kids was WWF in attitude era, Vince knows this. He doesn't need to make the show PG to get kids, there were shitload of kids watching attitude era... just look at the merchandise sales, all the action figures, video games, shirts. I remember every other kid in my school wore an Austin 3:16 shirt, who say's kids weren't watching attitude era?

    WWE going PG is not gonna help kids, they will still pick up violence/swearing etc from movies, music, games etc...
    And there aren't a shitload of kids watching PG era? PG era doesn't have good merchandise sales, action figues, games, shirts? Kids nowadays don't like John Cena, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio etc?

    As much as I find Vince's reasons for PG terribly condescending, ("kids and women make up x% of our audience") I don't really see what this has to do with anything. How is going back to the attitude era a good business move in any way, shape or form?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. McMahon View Post
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    I will say it again, wrestling is a violent 'sport', it should not be PG. Kids was WWF in attitude era, Vince knows this. He doesn't need to make the show PG to get kids, there were shitload of kids watching attitude era... just look at the merchandise sales, all the action figures, video games, shirts. I remember every other kid in my school wore an Austin 3:16 shirt, who say's kids weren't watching attitude era?

    WWE going PG is not gonna help kids, they will still pick up violence/swearing etc from movies, music, games etc...
    Please allow the most stand out poster in the EWN forum community to give his infinite wisdom on this matter. I'm trying really hard to understand your logic but hell you don't need infinite wisdom to tell your under 18. Your unbelievably ridiculous reasons are the reason why we have school shootings and so many young kids on meds these days. FYI pro rasslin isnt a violent sport, it has violence in it of course but its more a soap opera/Broadway play if you will. Its about storylines and how good overcomes evil or vise versa. I bet you really think john 3:16 really means I just whooped your ass. I bet you have no idea what it really means. Going PG WILL help kids, they don't need sex,drugs and ultra violence on a fictional TV program to think its cool. What's really cool is understanding pro rasslin is just a show. You obliviously don't have kids and your life experience is minimal but for once try to understand kids need to be kids and they sure don't need grown up problems in there life, they have enough problems with bullies and if they are wearing name-brand clothing so they can be in the "cool" group at school. You have a lot to learn fella.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necroyeti View Post
    You do realise it's the unpopular opinion thread, right? Hating on the Attitude era has always been an unpopular opinion, probably always will be.


    This is true. Quite a large number of attitude era supporters will try to convince everyone that the wrestling back then was much better, but it really wasn't. A bit of claret and more "extreme" bumps made cage matches a lot more exciting, but that's about it really.


    Sounds like classic nostalgia filter to me, mate. Have you tried watching any attitude era stuff lately? I have, and I really wish I hadn't.... there were literally tons of terrible gimmicks and wrestlers and storylines I had forgotten about. Vince Russo and Ed Ferrara WERE employed by WWE for most of this era, remember.

    And while DX, Rock, Austin etc are among the most fondly remembered characters ever in wrestling, I think it had more to do with these guys' naturally charisma a lot more than TV-14 and innuendo. A lot of the popular guys from the era were well loved before the attitude era. (and after, for the ones who still wrestle(d)... even into PG!)


    And there aren't a shitload of kids watching PG era? PG era doesn't have good merchandise sales, action figues, games, shirts? Kids nowadays don't like John Cena, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio etc?

    As much as I find Vince's reasons for PG terribly condescending, ("kids and women make up x% of our audience") I don't really see what this has to do with anything. How is going back to the attitude era a good business move in any way, shape or form?
    Now that is the correct definition of Disection

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    My un-popular opinion would have to be that Divas should not wrestle if they can not wrestle to begin with. They should be Managers to male wrestlers until' they are actually good enough to compete. I am not being sexist.. Really... I love the Diva's division as much as the next guy but I can imagine for a girl who watches wrestling is probably embarrassed by watching their poor performances. I had said this same exact thing on another forum an they banned my forum because too many people had their own opinions by saying that the WWE divas brought ratings to the WWE... REALLY?!
    Hey.. I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know.

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    [ I love the Diva's division as much as the next guy but I can imagine for a girl who watches wrestling is probably embarrassed by watching their poor performances.]

    I agree. I'm a girl and I can't stand to see women wrestle now. Chicks like trish and lita at least knew how to wrestle. The "divas" now are purely for show except maybe the glamazon. I leave the room for a bathroom break when a divas match is on. And with the new nxt show, they did a good thing putting it online because I dont think anyone was watching it on tv. but thats imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDevilsAdvocate View Post
    My un-popular opinion would have to be that Divas should not wrestle if they can not wrestle to begin with. They should be Managers to male wrestlers until' they are actually good enough to compete. I am not being sexist.. Really... I love the Diva's division as much as the next guy but I can imagine for a girl who watches wrestling is probably embarrassed by watching their poor performances. I had said this same exact thing on another forum an they banned my forum because too many people had their own opinions by saying that the WWE divas brought ratings to the WWE... REALLY?!
    Good point.I LOVEEEE the Divas but some Divas like Eve or Maryse with no backround of wrestling should not be pushed as a wrestler. It isn't fair to the other women who have a passion for wrestling. It all goes how a certain person looks in the WWE. For example, on NXT, they had the Diva rookies sit down and tell alittle about themselves. Kaitlyn, Naomi, and Aksona did not say anything about having a passion for wrestling. The only people that said that they have a passion for wrestling is Jamie, Maxine, and AJ. Kaitlyn is horrible in the ring but is hot but WWE still wants to make her into a wrestler because she looks a certain way. What ever happend to Divas like Mickie James having a passion for wrestling and not going on WWE Diva Search to become a model.
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