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    Quote Originally Posted by magglis View Post
    And i quote:
    Some historians describe Coubertin as the instigator of the modern Olympic movement, a man whose vision and political skill led to the revival of the Olympic Games which had been practiced in antiquity.[1] The ancient Olympic Games were held every four years in the Greek city of Olympia, in the Kingdom of Elis, from 776 BCE through either 261 or 393 AD. While there were a number of other ancient games celebrated in Greece during this time period, including the Pythian, Nemean, and Isthmian Games, Coubertin idealized the Olympic Games as the ultimate ancient athletic competition.[12]

    His statue at the Centennial Olympic Park,Atlanta

    Thomas Arnold, the Head Master of Rugby School, was an important influence on Coubertin's thoughts about education, but his meetings with Dr. William Penny Brookes also influenced his thinking about athletic competition to some extent. A trained physician, Brookes believed that the best way to prevent illness was through physical exercise. In 1850, he had initiated a local athletic competition that he referred to as "Meetings of the Olympian Class"[14] at the Gaskell recreation ground at Much Wenlock, Shropshire.[15] Along with theLiverpool Athletic Club, who began holding their own Olympic Festival in the 1860s, Brookes created a National Olympian Association which aimed to encourage such local competition in cities across Britain. These efforts were largely ignored by the British sporting establishment. Brookes also maintained communication with the government and sporting advocates in Greece, seeking a revivial of the Olympic Games internationally under the auspices of the Greek government.[16] There, the philanthropist brothers Evangelos andKonstantinos Zappas had used their wealth to fund Olympics within Greece, and paid for the restoration of the Panathinaiko Stadium that was later used during the 1896 Summer Olympics.[17] The efforts of Brookes to encourage the internationalization of these games came to naught.[16] However, Dr Brookes did organize a national Olympic Games in London, at Crystal Palace, in 1866 and this was the first Olympics to resemble an Olympic Games to be held outside of Greece.[18] But while others had created Olympic contests within their countries, and broached the idea of international competition, it was Coubertin whose work would lead to the establishment of the International Olympic Committee and the organization of the first modern Olympic Games.[17]












    Brookes was just an ifluence and i don't believe that because i read it from wikipedia.


    The current Olympic games was from Coubertin
    When you lead with "Some historians describe" then it's quite obvious that even now there's some dispute. I'm no scholar, but the way I see it they were both the founders of the Modern Olympics, without either one there would have been no Olympics. So you're both right
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    This is the same argument as those who believe the Great Wall of China, is the only man made object that is visible from space or that the sky is blue!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade Barrett 1979 View Post
    Not at all. I'm saying it as someone who believes in facts.

    Tell me you didn't use Wikipedia to prove a point on accuracy?!
    I used wikipedia becuse it is all written there.I studded the olympic games ancient and modern one thousand times.




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    There is a difference between playing shit and being shit. You said I think RVP is shit, where I'm saying he'll play shit... His ability will still be there but it just won't have a bug effect on UTD.
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    God if Olympics wasn't down the road (well, very long road) I would not give a fuck abt it.

    But I am looking forward to all the international girls coming to my town, looking for a quick fling etc...then I'm down with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by magglis View Post
    I used wikipedia becuse it is all written there.I studded the olympic games ancient and modern one thousand times.
    Well I can use Wikipedia too:

    Dr William Penny Brookes in 1850. In 1861 he was also instrumental in setting up the Shropshire Games and later in 1866, the National Olympian Games. Dr Brookes is credited as the founding father of the Modern Olympic Games




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    Quote Originally Posted by Robareid View Post
    When you lead with "Some historians describe" then it's quite obvious that even now there's some dispute. I'm no scholar, but the way I see it they were both the founders of the Modern Olympics, without either one there would have been no Olympics. So you're both right
    You don't see the deference.Brookes he created Olympic contests in Britain but it was Coubertin who created the modern Olympic games




    What Arsenal fans think about RVP moving to UTD:
    Quote Originally Posted by akbar View Post
    There is a difference between playing shit and being shit. You said I think RVP is shit, where I'm saying he'll play shit... His ability will still be there but it just won't have a bug effect on UTD.
    Oh akbar....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade Barrett 1979 View Post
    Well I can use Wikipedia too:

    Dr William Penny Brookes in 1850. In 1861 he was also instrumental in setting up the Shropshire Games and later in 1866, the National Olympian Games. Dr Brookes is credited as the founding father of the Modern Olympic Games
    I still disagree he was just an influence




    What Arsenal fans think about RVP moving to UTD:
    Quote Originally Posted by akbar View Post
    There is a difference between playing shit and being shit. You said I think RVP is shit, where I'm saying he'll play shit... His ability will still be there but it just won't have a bug effect on UTD.
    Oh akbar....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade Barrett 1979 View Post
    This is the same argument as those who believe the Great Wall of China, is the only man made object that is visible from space or that the sky is blue!
    Now that is just stupid




    What Arsenal fans think about RVP moving to UTD:
    Quote Originally Posted by akbar View Post
    There is a difference between playing shit and being shit. You said I think RVP is shit, where I'm saying he'll play shit... His ability will still be there but it just won't have a bug effect on UTD.
    Oh akbar....

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by magglis View Post
    You don't see the deference.Brookes he created Olympic contests in Britain but it was Coubertin who created the modern Olympic games
    By using the ideas and help of Brookes, who would have been credited more if he hadn't died the year before. You are making sound like Coubertin came up with the idea all by himself and was solely responsible for it's creation, which is untrue!




  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by magglis View Post
    Now that is just stupid
    Point is most believe these to be facts, when they aren't!




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