CM Punk Heel Turn Thread

[Fan4Now]

So, Jim Ross tweeted, "@CMPunk has questions to answer on Raw according to some. I'm not 1 of them. Is Punk a villain? I think not. @TheRock isn't complaining." IMO, by JR tweeting this, it's not a guess, he knows, they probably, asked him to tweet it, which is pathetic, bc that shows, they F'd up, & ppl are looking forward, to Punk as a heel, (bc he sure did act, like one.) so they ask, JR to tweet this, so we won't be disappointed, for those, who may have been looking forward to Punk as heel. So, obviously, WWE's insulting fan's intelligence AGAIN! Punk had several heel tactics. 1. Not helping Cena, with Show, 2. clotheslining The Rock, as he was helping, the good guy, Cena, 3. Pinning a beaten Cena, after Show destroyed him, 4. Several heel facial expressions, during the match. I like Punk, face or heel, but WWE should've known, they don't have enough star power, to turn Punk heel. My favorite, of all time, Chris Jericho, won't be the big thing Punk is. He could/would/should be, but he's always been booked less than his best, if you ask me. (Case in point, Punk told Jericho, "You were great, but you were never the man, like how I'm the man") I think Jericho could be, but they just never put him, at that level, even being undisputed champ, beating Rock/Austin. He was booked, less than his best, IMO.) Plus Rock isn't gonna, be there often, so they need Punk, & Pebbles, to be the two big babyfaces. If he's not heel, I don't understand, the s/l, from Raw then. Even goody 2 shoes Lawler, was questioning him, & said, "He turned his back, on everyone", like they always say, when a face turns heel. Plus, I know, if JR was at commentary, (I know it's scripted), but he would've been questioning it too. Several heel tactics, and JR says: "According to some, Punk has questions to answer, but I'm not 1 of them." I know, if JR were there, he'd have been yelling/complaining, probably, more than Lawler. My point/guess is, WWE didn't give a very compelling show, so to get ppl talking, they pulled either, a phony heel turn, with all the theatrics of one, just to say, "No, he's still good", or they realized, they F'd up, bc they don't create, enough star power, to turn, one of their biggest faces heel. Only, my opinion. If I'm wrong, & JR's trying to throw a swerve, then I'll admit, I was wrong, but they know, they led ppl, one way, & now they seem to be back peddling, on the idea. I'm just asking, if Punk's not heel, then wtf was that? I know, good guys, go at each other, & get each other back, which could be, the case with Rock & Punk, but Punk also let Show demolish Cena, & tried to pin a beaten good guy, that's fine with me, but that's not how WWE USUALLY, portrays their good guys.

So, what's you guys/ladies opinions, on this???

[Wade Barrett 1979]

Or could it be fans jumping to conclusions again because smarks are so knowledgeable and know how things should be done!

[Fan4Now]

Or could it be fans jumping to conclusions again because smarks are so knowledgeable and know how things should be done!

Yeah, I guess, it could be that, and I did say, if I'm wrong, I'll admit it, but there were several variables, of Punk turning heel, and if JR tweets, something like that, then I think, he's telling fans, whoa, what makes you think Punk's a villian? Well, JR, there are several things. What's also funny, is this means, you were wrong too, bc you posted this, in a thread, last week.---> "I predicted Punk turning heel even before he turned face." And this ---> "It won't be immediate but it'll probably be sooner rather than later.", the latter, in reply, to someone posting, "How long before, Punk & DB team up?" So, they had you believing, Punk turned heel. So, I guess Smarks, are so knowledgeable. Now, for some of those, I remember reading, who did say, they didn't think Punk turned, they can be condescending, but you weren't one of them, so sorry. You thought he turned, like me, & most other fans, but maybe he didn't. I just feel like, they're insulting our intelligence again.

[Wade Barrett 1979]

Yeah, I guess, it could be that, and I did say, if I'm wrong, I'll admit it, but there were several variables, of Punk turning heel, and if JR tweets, something like that, then I think, he's telling fans, whoa, what makes you think Punk's a villian? Well, JR, there are several things. What's also funny, is this means, you were wrong too, bc you posted this, in a thread, last week.---> "I predicted Punk turning heel even before he turned face." And this ---> "It won't be immediate but it'll probably be sooner rather than later.", the latter, in reply, to someone posting, "How long before, Punk & DB team up?" So, they had you believing, Punk turned heel. So, I guess Smarks, are so knowledgeable. Now, for some of those, I remember reading, who did say, they didn't think Punk turned, they can be condescending, but you weren't one of them, so sorry. You thought he turned, like me, & most other fans, but maybe he didn't. I just feel like, they're insulting our intelligence again.

So there was no trace of sarcasm in my posts? I must try harder.

Or it could be a double bluff and he is a heel. Or JR could be posting truthfully what he thinks, rather than kayfabe as most Twatter users do.

[Fan4Now]

So there was no trace of sarcasm in my posts? I must try harder.

Or it could be a double bluff and he is a heel. Or JR could be posting truthfully what he thinks, rather than kayfabe as most Twatter users do.

I wasn't trying, to insult you, Bro. I just think, they're insulting, our intelligence again, and I for one, hate when they do that. If Punk remains face, it's cool with me, but if he's turning heel, then one, or the other. He also, worked a house show, as a face, so JR must be right, he seemingly, turned heel Monday, but he didn't???

[Wade Barrett 1979]

I wasn't trying, to insult you, Bro. I just think, they're insulting, our intelligence again, and I for one, hate when they do that. If Punk remains face, it's cool with me, but if he's turning heel, then one, or the other. He also, worked a house show, as a face, so JR must be right, he seemingly, turned heel Monday, but he didn't???

I know chief, don't worry I never get offended.

I think in all reality you just have to accept that's the way they operate sometimes, I wouldn't overtly get wound up by it.

[tombstone13]

Ok, I was all for a CM Punk heel turn. But seriously? The way they played it out tonight was just a joke. They make him look like a coward. I know Heels are generally all about finding ways to make things easier. But We all know how strongly Punk played that best in the world role. Now he is out there complaining about AJ making a triple threat match. They should have made him a strong Heel saying he didn't care and that he would beat anybody they put in front of him. I know it may be to early for me to be judging how they are going with his heel turn. But so far, NOOOO! NOOO! NOOO!
Thoughts???

[Amerinaine]

I imagine this will get merged.

Also, I really don't think he came off as a coward so much as frustrated.

[BadAndy]

Ok, I was all for a CM Punk heel turn. But seriously? The way they played it out tonight was just a joke. They make him look like a coward. I know Heels are generally all about finding ways to make things easier. But We all know how strongly Punk played that best in the world role. Now he is out there complaining about AJ making a triple threat match. They should have made him a strong Heel saying he didn't care and that he would beat anybody they put in front of him. I know it may be to early for me to be judging how they are going with his heel turn. But so far, NOOOO! NOOO! NOOO!
Thoughts???

I don't think he looks like a coward at all. He looks bitter to me. Bitter at the fact that he hasn't been getting the face time he deserves as the champion. I kind of like the angle after him holding the title for so long and not being the main event. It's something different than they've done before and he looked more vicious to me than anything else.

[tombstone13]

I don't think he looks like a coward at all. He looks bitter to me. Bitter at the fact that he hasn't been getting the face time he deserves as the champion. I kind of like the angle after him holding the title for so long and not being the main event. It's something different than they've done before and he looked more vicious to me than anything else.

No, I agree with you. This was kind of my first post so I was just going at it.
But at the same time I feel like creative just seems so indecisive about how to go along with his heel turn you know? They could have had it so much better. If he is going to be angry be more lashed out about it. He had something going at first when he came out and was talking to Lawler. All that momentum just disappeared as the show went on. It is kind of sad seeing as he is the best thing they have going for them right now.