Do you think it is true?

[Asherdelampyr]

I think Cena likes being nice.

I think Cena likes being Mr. Nice Cena.

I think Cena likes the idea of continuing those former pursuits.

And I think Cena likes doing stuff to make sure he will still able to do those things.

Cena didn't help Ryder out for no reason.

He's nice sure, but he's also careful about things in WWE and his position and such.

absolutely, making that much money, he damn well should be

[HeelTurn]

If he is a complete dick backstage, does it matter?

He apparently doesn't sign autographs for men, only kiddies and women, does that make him a dick?

Anyone who has worked, or gone to school, college etc knows you won't get on well with everyone, you will have your friends, your acquaintances and those you dislike, same goes for WWE.

[The Brown One]

That's the thing though..not everyone is going to be a hit. Vince can't have a spotless record or making complete stars. Of course there's going to be flops along the way.Swagger is a prime example. IMO he has been the biggest flop in the last three years. By far.

It seems in recent memory though, that hes created more shitty stars than great ones.

I can. WCW created Booker T who was their equivalent of the Rock at one point, Chris Jericho (WWE basically bought his character), Goldberg, DDP but thats about it.

True, but that's not that many, and that was ages ago. New stars need to be created consistently, because the current crop won't be around forever.

[maar13]

It's definitely Cena's drawing power. Remember when Punk vs put in the main event? Ratings went down. That's why the WWE got really scared and never had Punk in the main event for 8 months.

Just one note to that, yes when Punk got in the ratings dropped a bit, but Since Cena has main evented and I mean since 2005, Ratings has dropped on a yearly basis, the biggest rating they got back was when Edge became champion for the first time, and after that, doesn't matter what, Cena is put at the top position.

Hell he was out for quite a while during 2008 and the ratings were steady until he got back as the champion, and is not bashing him, is just the truth.

And on the things you read about him, more than anything is taking a little out of context, if you read Ken's statements they are full of missfactors that have been even cleared by some other stars, and even the dates doesn't match, Mickie was champion and started it before even going out with Cena, Ken was at midcard even before it started it.

The thing with Orton was even missplaced and planted by Ken (by saying that Cena might want him fired after this suspension), When Cena was trying to "get" Orton fire (End of 2005 - berginning of 2006), it was not for standing up to Cena, Orton at the time had a reputation of being an absolute asshole, so bad that even The Undertaker and HHH (who was supposed to be his friend at the time) didn't wanted anything to do with him anymore.

Actually, Cena and Orton are close friends, and that people tend to forget things, They were even rumored to be involved into Kennnedy's dismisal, and to be working together to remain at the top during 2008 and mostly 2009 and one of the reasons for Orton to be at smackdown was for the both of them to be at the top...But Smackdown has always being a different animal than Raw.

So maybe he is a bully backstage, don't really think so thst much, but seriously, you hear stories of everyone there, from Punk, to Cena to HHH to even people like Taker and Foley back in the day, so take most of it as a grain of salt.

[FXK2I]

I remember during an interview Cena said that he liked banging fat chicks.

[The Brown One]

That's the thing though..not everyone is going to be a hit. Vince can't have a spotless record or making complete stars. Of course there's going to be flops along the way.Swagger is a prime example. IMO he has been the biggest flop in the last three years. By far.

I can. WCW created Booker T who was their equivalent of the Rock at one point, Chris Jericho (WWE basically bought his character), Goldberg, DDP but thats about it.

Just one note to that, yes when Punk got in the ratings dropped a bit, but Since Cena has main evented and I mean since 2005, Ratings has dropped on a yearly basis, the biggest rating they got back was when Edge became champion for the first time, and after that, doesn't matter what, Cena is put at the top position.

Hell he was out for quite a while during 2008 and the ratings were steady until he got back as the champion, and is not bashing him, is just the truth.

And on the things you read about him, more than anything is taking a little out of context, if you read Ken's statements they are full of missfactors that have been even cleared by some other stars, and even the dates doesn't match, Mickie was champion and started it before even going out with Cena, Ken was at midcard even before it started it.

The thing with Orton was even missplaced and planted by Ken (by saying that Cena might want him fired after this suspension), When Cena was trying to "get" Orton fire (End of 2005 - berginning of 2006), it was not for standing up to Cena, Orton at the time had a reputation of being an absolute asshole, so bad that even The Undertaker and HHH (who was supposed to be his friend at the time) didn't wanted anything to do with him anymore.

Actually, Cena and Orton are close friends, and that people tend to forget things, They were even rumored to be involved into Kennnedy's dismisal, and to be working together to remain at the top during 2008 and mostly 2009 and one of the reasons for Orton to be at smackdown was for the both of them to be at the top...But Smackdown has always being a different animal than Raw.

So maybe he is a bully backstage, don't really think so thst much, but seriously, you hear stories of everyone there, from Punk, to Cena to HHH to even people like Taker and Foley back in the day, so take most of it as a grain of salt.

So Cena is responsible for the ratings dropping into the 3.1 range? I'll have to look into this.

As for everything else, it's not too hard to believe that Cena could be screwing around backstage. It's unfortunate for Kenny about what happened with him and Mickie, but as for everything else, its not that bad. Cenas still a great guy.

[rodrik]

I remember during an interview Cena said that he liked banging fat chicks.

yeah, I remember that one, he said that his friends challenged him to bang her, and he did with no complaints, and with his head high

[Peter Kaymakcian]

So I think for the most part we all agree that these rumors are pretty much just that, rumors.

[Asherdelampyr]

I remember during an interview Cena said that he liked banging fat chicks.

The only people that don't like banging fat chicks haven't given them a fair chance.

[maar13]

So Cena is responsible for the ratings dropping into the 3.1 range? I'll have to look into this.

As for everything else, it's not too hard to believe that Cena could be screwing around backstage. It's unfortunate for Kenny about what happened with him and Mickie, but as for everything else, its not that bad. Cenas still a great guy.

No, I didn't say he was responsible for it, but during his time it has happened...Which is not the same, you can put it on Past superstars leaving, wrestling in general losing people's interest and yes, going for a lighter product, in general has put wrestling in this position, not just Cena or Punk.

Take Shawn Michaels as an example, great worker, a lot of charisma but when he was the champion ratings slided and it was not really because of Shawn alone, the competition became stronger and pushed them to do something aobut their ways.

Right now they have not much to worry about so they do what they want and even when Cena was champion, there were a couple of times the rating on very bad nights was below 3.0 but only when someone else is the champion people take notice and when it goes up and the champion is neither HHH or Cena, they pass it up, when Edge won the title the ratings spiked, and he actually maintained them but WWE didn't care and put the belt back on Cena 3 weeks later and things started to get normal again. I am not Saying Edge= Ratings but the thing is that they dropped the ball several times only to protect John with out real proof that the other wrestlers can't draw.

And as far as John being a great guy, He seems like a nice guy and haven't heard him being an ass to the public, and I am no real fan of the guy but reading all the crap about him being a bully backstage and a complete ass is actually tiresome, only one or two guys say something and other people call them out and they back down, like little Ken.