do you think nash is right? how do you think a wrestler should be?

[longtimefan]

benoit and eddie are one of the few wrestlers who pulled of the size disadvantage and made it believable. Why? Cause they were high flyers. The frog splash looks like a move that can hurt along with the flying headbutt. So against the bigger guys they could pull it off and make it look good. However they are the exception to the rule. WWE needs to bring back the cruiserweight title or make the lesser titles be competed for by cruiser weight guys. Triple h is really not that big but more of muscle bound tweener who is the perfect size for title runs. Big enough to not looks small against the really big but small enough to not dwarf the littles. Smaller wrestlers need either a good sub move like the figure four/walls jericho type finisher or a high flying one like the swanton bomb to help.

[FXK2I]

A wrestler should be someone that doesn't tear their quad while walking.

[Robstar]

Being a monster doesn't mean you will be a superior fighter. Look at MMA. If size was everything, Brock would still be champ. Or Overeem. Junior Dos Santos doesn't look particularly threatening, like, at all. If you've never seen him fight.

Someone like GSP or Anderson Silva would hand Nash his ass in a fight 8 times out of 10. The other 2 would be Nash getting lucky and getting in first, but that happens. Anyone who's ever played a contact sport knows that you can take out a bigger man if you go for their weak spots, which funnily enough in big men (Nash) are most often the knees. Which is what a lot of little guys in wrestling go for when they take on a big man. I can buy that. It makes sense.

But not to Nash, who couldn't get out of his own way to save himself, he's that full of himself. Nash's attitude is that of a bully.

[blink]

You can call Nash a bully but this is a business first and foremost. Sharks get ahead in business. And Nash has never been shy about his stance to when it comes to making money. And he's done very well for himself too.

And if Benoit is a high flyer for doing a diving head butt then angle is a lunch adore for doing a moonsault.

...and Brock is sin cara for fucking up a shooting star press.

[Robstar]

You can call Nash a bully but this is a business first and foremost. Sharks get ahead in business. And Nash has never been shy about his stance to when it comes to making money. And he's done very well for himself too.

And if Benoit is a high flyer for doing a diving head butt then angle is a lunch adore for doing a moonsault.

...and Brock is sin cara for fucking up a shooting star press.

Haha, that's true. Brock was a better MMA fighter than a wrestler - and that's saying something.

What Nash is doing, in essence, is pretending to speak for the fans. By saying what he said, he's making the assumption or prediction of what people want. He's not doing that, he doesn't know what Joe Sixpack 2012 wants. He's saying what HE wants - what people used to want. Problem is, if there were heaps of big guys around now, he'd be ripping them to shreds because they would inevitably be held in contrast to 'big men' of the past, of which Nash knows he is one.

[Kenny Kaos]

My favourite ten wrestlers of all time (in no real order):

Randy Savage, Mr Perfect, Brett Hart, Kurt Angel, RVD, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, HHH (back in the day), HBK and Mick Foley.

I like technical wrestlers, high flyers and hard hitters. For me the most BORING matches are between the big freaks like Nash, Show, Khali and the like. Its called WRESTLING. Hennig, Hart and Angel, for me, 3 of the best ever technically. Punk and Bryan probably the best two WRESTLERS around today. Savage was a big dude, but not Nash like, same could be said for HHH. Savage, Perfect and Michaels had BAGS of charisma too, unlike Nash.

I put Foley in there cos I love the fact he gave his body for the business. Some of the bumps he did were insane. Probably paying for it now. But for me that deserves more respect than just being tall, incredibly slow and incredibly boring to watch

[Big_D77]

I'm in agreement that it's all about the charisma and swag whether you're 6'8" like Hogan or 5' something like Eddie. Hogan: Not a technical guy but commanded an audience. Guerrero: Amazing wrestler, short but intensely intriguing to watch and follow.

On a sidenote about Kevin Nash: I just bought the Streak DVD and on it Nash says he "hated fighting with big guys." Seems he can't get his story straight on who the "real" wrestlers are.

Ignore him..maybe he'll go away.

[blink]

I'm in agreement that it's all about the charisma and swag whether you're 6'8" like Hogan or 5' something like Eddie. Hogan: Not a technical guy but commanded an audience. Guerrero: Amazing wrestler, short but intensely intriguing to watch and follow.

On a sidenote about Kevin Nash: I just bought the Streak DVD and on it Nash says he "hated fighting with big guys." Seems he can't get his story straight on who the "real" wrestlers are.

Ignore him..maybe he'll go away.

He hated fighting with big guys because he couldn't just be the dominant power house. He's seems to be a very fickle person. He doesn't want to fight with big guys because then his flaws show through. Yet he has to be in the main event. But he doesn't want smaller guys (whom he has better matches with) in the main event scene because he doesn't buy them as contenders. So to pacify big Kev let's just put the title on him and then give him squash matches without the belt on the line or the rest of his career. I love Kevin as an on screen personality and I enjoy him in the ring well enough but I really can't see what he wants out of the business, other than being front and center.

[Big_D77]

He hated fighting with big guys because he couldn't just be the dominant power house. He's seems to be a very fickle person. He doesn't want to fight with big guys because then his flaws show through. Yet he has to be in the main event. But he doesn't want smaller guys (whom he has better matches with) in the main event scene because he doesn't buy them as contenders. So to pacify big Kev let's just put the title on him and then give him squash matches without the belt on the line or the rest of his career. I love Kevin as an on screen personality and I enjoy him in the ring well enough but I really can't see what he wants out of the business, other than being front and center.

Yeah I'm a Kevin Nash fan myself but yeah he does seem, for lack of a better way to put it, full of shit. In the recent ladder match w/ Triple H he managed to kind of screw up a sidewalk slam and barely nailed his jacknife. So on top of not being able to be the power house big dude, he's not getting it done w/ "average" sized wrestlers (H being 6'4") which I'm sure is also a factor in his bitterness with the smaller guys.

[Robstar]

Let's not base this on Nash's well documented recent lack of ability. Let's take it back a bit and remember when he was pulling off all those awesome, exciting moves like the top rope clothesline or the dive through the ropes. Recall his amazing spur of the moment lightning quick moves like the spear or the frankensteiner. Especially the way he would throw people to a finish with an F5 or his amazing rolling senton.

Wait....what? Oh yeah, that wasn't him. That was anyone BUT him.

Punch. Kick. Whip. Clothesline. Elbow. Big boot. Powerbomb.

What a performer!