Of course, it was all keyfabe and I had planned it so that I would return on EWNCW programming in a couple of weeks time in time for the next ppv where I would face Shuriken, but I made a big mistake. I did all of the above without consulting anyone on creative. I did let eboy (who was my sub writer on Rage) know just after I did it, but I didn't let Grind or TBOZ (who was in charge of the fed at the time) know. In hindsight, that was a huge mistake on my part, and if I could do it again, that's what I'd change, but other than that, I have ZERO regrets about the above. Some people might not like that, but I don't care. The simple fact of the matter is, EWNCW was the talk of the e-fed section for the next week, and not just in our own thread, in the JBW thread too. And that's no exageration, no matter what anyone else says. That's the stone cold truth. I was surprised by how many didn't even consider for one second that there was even the possibility that it even COULD have been a work. A good deal of people instantly jumped to the conclusion that it was all legit and that I had actually booked myself to win the main title and then walk out of the company with 2 titles and screw over EWNCW by going to another company. I was truly stunned that people thought I would do that. I would NEVER do that to EWNCW or any other fed I was involved with. On the other hand, others did play along with it and invested into the storyline, and to those people I say thank you, because you guys are the true wrestling fans. The way I see it though, is any publicity is good publicity. And to all those who did think that I legit booked myself to win the title and then try and screw over EWNCW and actually jump ship; f**k you. I proved you wrong. Because had you people sat back like everyone else and watched the storyline unfold, you would have seen just 2 weeks later what would have happened.
Even though that tensions did run high behind the scenes due to me not telling TBOZ about all of this, it was all worked out in the end and the storyline played out fine, just as it was meant to. Thunder came back as the disputed World Champion and went on to put over Gillz (who won a tournament for the new title) to crown him as the undisputed EWNCW World Champion at Day of Reckoning.
Again, I have NO regrets about doing the above, because it created a buzz that had never before been had and never has been since in the e-fed section. And it's definitely the highlight of my time here in the feds.
As far as other highlights go, I'd say that Thunder winning the EWNCW Championship for the first time at Rise from the Ashes was a great moment for me. My first real world title.
Winning the HWA World Championship for the first time was special for me, but winning it for the second time was even nicer. Thunder won the Golden Fate Royal Rumble match and then went on to main event Victory Point (HWA's Wrestlemania) and beat David Sullivan for the title in a career ending match. I again played up in the thread that I was leaving HWA that night, but it was Thunder who won and ended Sullivan's career. A nice moment to become the only 2 time HWA World Champion.
How did EWNCW vs JBW happen in the first place and in your opinion what do you think caused it to be a fiasco as some members have called it?
This is going to be another long one, s I apologize up front about that!
It came about when Kash contacted me back in November of last year. I wasn't too long after I'd taken over as head of EWNCW, just a month or 2. There had always been people saying that they wanted to see EWNCW vs JBW or some matches that would pit characters from each company against each other, but it never happened, that is of course, until we did this cross brand thing.
After exchanging PM's, we came to the conclusion that we'd have a total of 5 shows in a series called 'EWNCW vs JBW: Battle Lines'. We then decided that we'd have EWNCW 'win' 2 shows, JBW 'win' 2 shows (as in get the most wins from each show) and then the final show would end in a draw after the deciding match between Tommy Thunder and Massdinero would end in a draw and a handshake between both, thus showing that there was no hard feelings between both companies. But of course, we never got to see that.
Anyway, we set about getting too the creative process of this, and we created a brand new forum for it (similar to the EWNCW batcave or any other HQ that the creative teams use), and we all would discuss plans in there. However, it was evident from the get go that it just wasn't going to work. There was way too much difference in opinion, there was way too much ego flying about with certain creative members not willing to have their characters lose, and the clash in style between both companies was just too much to handle. Some were so opposed to it after just a few discussions they actually left creative. Rich (Cranium) stepped down from creative at EWNCW even before the creative process started, since he new it just wouldn't work (I wish I'd followed suit). Torphy also stepped away from it after clashes with the 2 senior members of the JBW creative team (don't blame him one bit).
The whole creative process was just a nightmare and it was near impossible to work in all honesty. The fact that whatever anyone suggested was being undermined by 2 guys was just ridiculous. We did manage to get the first show out, but that alone had been a massive struggle. Here's a true story; Torphy and Zapphoman were in charge of writing the first show. Zap disappeared leaving Torphy to do the work alone. Torphy designed a card for the show, a perfectly good and reasonable card, everyone seemed happy until Kash came in and virtually tore it to pieces, wrote his own entirely new card, and declared that that would be the final card used. Fair booking? I think not. And if anyone wants to deny that, then you can just ask Torphy and he'll confirm it for you.
The process of sorting the second show was even slower and even worse, so in the end I just decided to pul the plug on it from EWNCW's end and go back to continue with EWNCW. I mean we stopped doing regular shows about December, and it was now February and we'd only managed to get one of the 5 proposed shows out, and about 3 EWNCW supershows to plug the gap. If we'd continued with the cross fed thing, we'd probably still be here today trying to get the 4th or 5th show out, and as a result, neither company would likely still be here.
In fact, such was the crippling effect of not having any regular shows during this time, I was skeptical at one point if EWNCW would ever be back, but luckily, once we got the ball rolling, we came back and better than ever, as we see us today. The same however can't be said about JBW, since they went on to have about 2 more shows after that and it's only recently after a much needed change behind the scenes that they seem to have a chance of getting back to being an e-fed again.
In conclusion, agreeing to do the EWNCW vs JBW cross fed 'war' is hands down the worst decision I've ever made as head of EWNCW. I'd like to think that I haven't done a bad job at running the fed, but making the call to do that was a very foolish and naive move, and I have to apologize to the roster and the creative team we had at the time for going in to do that.
I did at one point say to myself that EWNCW will NEVER do anything similar to that EVER again as long as I'm in charge. But I have to say, that the main problems behind the way we went about it last time was:
A) the egotistical mindset of the JBW creative team at the time .
B) the lack of disorganization (for the record, Torphy wrote most of the show that was posted, and Grind wasn't exactly having a lot of help in writing the second show). I mean something of that magnitude needed months of planning, and we should never have stopped doing regular shows until we had a card set in stone ready for the first show to be written.
C) And the fact that both feds weren't familiar with each other, making it hard for characters from both sides to IC with each other.
I think it CAN be done, but it needs a lot of organization. If the same creative team as before was in charge of JBW, then I wouldn't think of doing it again for one second. But now that there's been a changing of the guard, I have a lot more faith that something could be worked between the 2 current teams. And before you ask, no, there hasn't been any discussions for another cross fed event of any sort since the last time. But that's not to say there won't be at some point in the future. Never say never I think is the best way of putting it.
I would also like to stress that there is NO, ZERO animosity between EWNCW and JBW, and also any animosity between myself and Kash, or R(ob) or whoever else at the time the above fiasco went down is strictly business. On a personal level, I have no problem with them whatsoever. But when it comes to creative business, we're just different, and have different ideas of how to go about conducting things.
Again, I don't have a problem with them but when it comes to doing creative business, we're chalk and cheese, and don't mix well together. And I'm sure than the rest of the EWNCW team from the time would agree.
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