The television discussion thread

**Amerinaine** · 10-21-2012, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Robstar

You're missing the point with actors like Bernsen and Campbell. They're like, 75% ham actors. That's their thing.

Rated him to me= other people rate him = they think he's good.

If you watch Rake, you should know it's based on an actual person. According to my sister who knows him or someone that does(?), it's pretty close to the mark. There's a new show, Jack Irish I think it's called, with Guy Pearce which has only just kicked off but I'm liking it.

I'm not gonna say he is Cary Grant or anything, but I do think he is good.

As far as Bernsen and Campbell, yeah, but they just aren't good at it to me. Campbell especially. Bernsen at least has been funny or hammed it up well before. (IE: Major League.) I can't make any case for Campbell. But that is a discussion most relegated to the movie part of this thread. Although, Campbell is completely annoying in Burn Notice, and Bernsen isn't always annoying in Psych.

**Iron Ape** · 10-21-2012, 10:24 PM

Pearce is doing television now? Crazy. I didn't know that. Dude's been on the cusp of breaking through as a legit Hollywood big screen lead for over a decade now, but I guess Lockout bombing has finally sealed the deal in regards to that ever happening, huh? Shame. Still, I'm going to have to check that out.

**Iron Ape** · 10-21-2012, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Amerinaine

As far as Bernsen and Campbell, yeah, but they just aren't good at it to me. Campbell especially. Bernsen at least has been funny or hammed it up well before. (IE: Major League.) I can't make any case for Campbell. But that is a discussion most relegated to the movie part of this thread. Although, Campbell is completely annoying in Burn Notice, and Bernsen isn't always annoying in Psych.

This is straight crazy talk. When it comes to piling-high ham sandwiches, Campbell is widely regarded as running one of the finest delis in town, and for good reason.

**Robstar** · 10-21-2012, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by Iron Ape

Pearce is doing television now? Crazy. I didn't know that. Dude's been on the cusp of breaking through as a legit Hollywood big screen lead for over a decade now, but I guess Lockout bombing has finally sealed the deal in regards to that ever happening, huh? Shame. Still, I'm going to have to check that out.

It was filmed pretty recently, I just think he's exercising other options. I don't think he's called off the film career. From what I've heard he's probably the best thing in Lawless. Pearce has also got the villain role in Iron Man 3 to come. Plus he was in Prometheus so that's something. Toni Collette still comes back here and does bit roles and small parts. I just think she enjoys doing it, it's not like she needs to. Cate Blanchett too. I think it's the humble, unpretentious nature of us Aussies that you can attribute to that

**Iron Ape** · 10-21-2012, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Robstar

It was filmed pretty recently, I just think he's exercising other options. I don't think he's called off the film career. From what I've heard he's probably the best thing in Lawless. Pearce has also got the villain role in Iron Man 3 to come. Plus he was in Prometheus so that's something. Toni Collette still comes back here and does bit roles and small parts. I just think she enjoys doing it, it's not like she needs to. Cate Blanchett too. I think it's the humble, unpretentious nature of us Aussies that you can attribute to that

I'm not saying that he's done making movies, but I think the days of him getting top-billing are pretty much over. And Guy's role in Iron Man 3 is basically a cameo (his words), so I don't really see that doing much to significantly change anything.

**Iron Ape** · 10-21-2012, 10:51 PM

And I can understand Toni Collete still taking smaller roles. I mean, I imagine she has a lot more free time on her hands, what with her little-watched television show getting cancelled and all.

**Robstar** · 10-22-2012, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by Iron Ape

And I can understand Toni Collete still taking smaller roles. I mean, I imagine she has a lot more free time on her hands, what with her little-watched television show getting cancelled and all.

I thought "...Tara" was pretty popular? That's the impression they gave here anyway. Anyway, she's a good actress I think.

Guy Pearce has been hit and miss for years now. However, as I see it, there's so little room at the "top" and the guys who are there don't seem to be going anywhere - Clooney, Pitt, DiCaprio etc. I see a lot of actors moving into TV since there's more abundant work and opportunities and a seemingly less harsh of a critique, since a series is ongoing, unlike a movie there's not as much pressure to get it absolutely right straight out of the gate.

One of my favourite Australian actors is Ben Mendelsohn who's finally getting some work over there, notably in The Dark Knight Rises and Killing Them Softly. He's got some chops but unfortunately has been plagued with some drug issues in the past

**Iron Ape** · 10-22-2012, 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by Robstar

I thought "...Tara" was pretty popular? That's the impression they gave here anyway. Anyway, she's a good actress I think.

It was popular with critics and her performance garnered her an Emmy and a Golden Globe, but the audience just didn't reflect the level of talent involved (Spielberg produced, and it was Diablo Cody's first project coming off her own Oscar win for Juno). The acclaim is actually really the only reason it was even able to last 3 seasons.

For the record: I'm a big Collette fan, so much so that her involvement has suckered me into watching more than a couple of chicks flicks that I otherwise wouldn't have bothered with.

Originally Posted by Robstar

Guy Pearce has been hit and miss for years now. However, as I see it, there's so little room at the "top" and the guys who are there don't seem to be going anywhere - Clooney, Pitt, DiCaprio etc. I see a lot of actors moving into TV since there's more abundant work and opportunities and a seemingly less harsh of a critique, since a series is ongoing, unlike a movie there's not as much pressure to get it absolutely right straight out of the gate.

Yeah, there's definitely less of an immediate stigma attached to that film to television transition these days. And with the quality of storytelling now happening on the small screen, a lot of the work is more creatively fulfilling.

Originally Posted by Robstar

One of my favourite Australian actors is Ben Mendelsohn who's finally getting some work over there, notably in The Dark Knight Rises and Killing Them Softly. He's got some chops but unfortunately has been plagued with some drug issues in the past

Dude from Animal Kingdom, right? Yeah, I like him.

**Robstar** · 10-22-2012, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by Iron Ape

It was popular with critics and her performance garnered her an Emmy and a Golden Globe, but the audience just didn't reflect the level of talent involved (Spielberg produced, and it was Diablo Cody's first project coming off her own Oscar win for Juno). The acclaim is actually really the only reason it was even able to last 3 seasons.

For the record: I'm a big Collette fan, so much so that her involvement has suckered me into watching more than a couple of chicks flicks that I otherwise wouldn't have bothered with.

Yeah, there's definitely less of an immediate stigma attached to that film to television transition these days. And with the quality of storytelling now happening on the small screen, a lot of the work is more creatively fulfilling.

Dude from Animal Kingdom, right? Yeah, I like him.

Yeah, he was in that. He was actually the original choice for Chopper, believe it or not.

So.....watched Muriels Wedding then I take it? haha Check out The Black Balloon if you can....I really liked that. Plus I'm looking forward to seeing Mental - but then, I just love Australian cinema. Good cast in that.....didn't know Liev Schreiber was in it. That guy has done some classic funny roles, weirdly a lot as a transvestite/cross dresser!