
Originally Posted by
Iron Ape
I think the first season of Twin Peaks started some real water-cooler discussion, and so did The X-Files to some extent. But The Sopranos was the show that took it to another level (though it could be argued that Oz was the impetus that opened the doors for stuff like Sopranos to even come to be, so that probably deserves some credit as well).
Yeah, I couldn't really say as I wasn't into good tv back, because I was a child, but The Sopranos is something I remember people talking about when it was shown over here, well certainly the first American show, you know, other than Friends-like fodder. Actually, now I think about it, yes, The X-Files. My mum used to watch alot of that.

Originally Posted by
Iron Ape
I'll be real curious to hear your thoughts as you go, particularly regarding some of the more divisive elements such as the dream sequences and the infamous ending. I personally ate up the more existential and ponderous elements of the show that some fans seemed to turn on, especially as the show aspired to become deeper and more layered in the later seasons (which is primarily where most people started hopping off the truck). To me, the show was soooooooooooooo much more than just about seeing people get whacked, and I think you'll be one of the ones to genuinely appreciate its loftier goals.
Truly one of the most expertly crafted pieces of entertainment ever. (And it's great that Sopranos vet Terence Winter is keeping the spirit alive on his massively under-appreciated Boardwalk Empire.)
Yeah, I love all that kinda shit. The use of the therapy as a way for the central character to reveal his thoughts and feelings and struggles with the pressure heaped upon him in his
two families, was a great way to go, rather than, say, the 'voice-over in his thoughts thing'; it adds a slightly greater reality to it all. I think I have been aware of the ending, but possibly forgot it and put it to the back of my mind, so I'm still gonna stray away from confirming it just now, until I eventually find it out naturally in the series.
What I enjoy most of all is just the camaraderie between the characters, in the mob-family life, aswell as the family-family life. The little things, and the love and respect between characters around there,
is there, whether hidden, or underplayed by the individual, or not. Seeing it presented by the performances of the ensemble, is a high, for me. Things some people would see as mundane, or nothing noteworthy do actually mean something. There is as much to be taken from and enjoyed in these moments as anything elsewhere. Moments where the camera stays on a single actor just driving a car and entering a house is perfect. Also love the fact that they're not afraid to kill off, what I would assume would be, popular charactars. If it's needed for that story, it's done.

Originally Posted by
Iron Ape
No, it's a MASSIVE disappointment. If you want a fix of badass Chiklis, you'd be way better off checking out The Shield (it's truly on the same echelon as stuff like Breaking Bad and The Wire) .
Oh well, think I'll give Vegas a pass then. Don't really have time, when there is better stuff out there. I've seen you talk highly of The Shield quite a bit Ape, I need to give it a watch soon, maybe after Sopranos, and Breaking Bad.
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