Punk & Heyman Heart attack.

[AWrestlingGod]

That's the thing... i you are pushing the envelope all the time... you are destined to go to far... or it wouldn't really be pushing the envelope.

True. WWE has had a great two years in my opinion. I hope they continue to push new stars, and have long title reigns next year as well.

[TheJosephBanks]

According to a report, it was Hayes' idea. Jerry was completely okay with it and Heyman lobbied to get it changed to something more Punk's character

[Dennis]

True. WWE has had a great two years in my opinion. I hope they continue to push new stars, and have long title reigns next year as well.

I think that was a lost art in the wwe for a while... and kind of the reason I don't want the rock to win next year... we all know he would just be a transitional champion... The title shouldn't be an easy thing to take away from the champion... and at some points in the recent past... it seemed that I couldn't keep up with who was the current champions.

[AWrestlingGod]

I think that was a lost art in the wwe for a while... and kind of the reason I don't want the rock to win next year... we all know he would just be a transitional champion... The title shouldn't be an easy thing to take away from the champion... and at some points in the recent past... it seemed that I couldn't keep up with who was the current champions.

I hope The Shield destroys The Rock at the Royal Rumble.

[Jack Newport]

I agree with you... When this still angers members of the iwc who know it's fake months later... you know the heel promo did it's job...

You call it pushing the envelope in order to go far.

I call it taking things too far out of desperation.

I put Heyman mocking Lawler's heart attack in the same category as Vince mocking JR's palsy and Triple H pretending to screw a corpse - as a fan, they are all-time low points that I'd like to forget I ever saw play out on television.

If THAT was what it took for Punk to get heat, then he should've never turned him heel in the first place.

[Lowki]

It's called a heel promo. jerry was likely ok with it... jerry loves the wwe he knows that's how heels gets over.

I read somewhere that it was suggested it to him the week before and he helped the writers with what he would and wouldn't mind doing with the promo. It's an old school "make fun of a real situation" style thing.

[Rockstar83]

it was to get Punk and Heyman over as Heels, and it worked. They really wouldn't do that in real life, remember Wrestling is just a story.

[bearkg88]

I think that was a lost art in the wwe for a while... and kind of the reason I don't want the rock to win next year... we all know he would just be a transitional champion... The title shouldn't be an easy thing to take away from the champion... and at some points in the recent past... it seemed that I couldn't keep up with who was the current champions.

Personally, i'd like to see Punk hold onto the title to WM, and one of two things. Either face Taker, and lose of course, with Taker holding the title for 2 to 3 months, to drop it, go away, and come back at WM 30 for a retirement match, or have Punk retain, and end up facing Rock and Cena in a triple threat, with Punk holding onto the title there.

Back to topic, I don't think it was a "test" per say, I think it was just more of an opportune moment to get Punk even more heat

[bearkg88]

You call it pushing the envelope in order to go far.

I call it taking things too far out of desperation.

I put Heyman mocking Lawler's heart attack in the same category as Vince mocking JR's palsy and Triple H pretending to screw a corpse - as a fan, they are all-time low points that I'd like to forget I ever saw play out on television.

If THAT was what it took for Punk to get heat, then he should've never turned him heel in the first place.

I guess we have different view points. I don't put the mocking of Lawler in the same boat as Vince's mocking of HHH make believe romp, as to me, Lawler had to OK the angle. Obviously he had some say in it, and you have to assume if he thought it would go too far he would have said no. HHH's make believe romp with Katie..well...that was just twisted...

[Dennis]

I guess we have different view points. I don't put the mocking of Lawler in the same boat as Vince's mocking of HHH make believe romp, as to me, Lawler had to OK the angle. Obviously he had some say in it, and you have to assume if he thought it would go too far he would have said no. HHH's make believe romp with Katie..well...that was just twisted...

this is my thoughts as well.... I assume many of the people who hated this angle love the attitude era, which did angles similar to this more often.