Call Me Crazy For This Post......

**CMBison** · 12-31-2012, 02:04 AM

....but I think John "Super Dave" Laurinaitis(Yes, I had to Google it, you know you have to everytime you write his name) could've worked. As from a stand point of a fan who would've like to tackle the creative job of making him a really hated person, I would've like to have seen his potential rise to the ranks of Eric Bischoff, McMahon-Helmsey, or even Vince McMahon, but I guess he didn't cut it. If you ask me, it was all on John Cena's involvement, not only did their eventual meeting came too early, but Tensai's streak ended due to the fact he HAD to face Cena with no one else being built up to put on a proper main event. But enough of the ruin-er of everything.....

Johnny Ace's potential could've been more powerful, granted People Power was weak, but I liked how the Team Johnny vs Team Teddy was well built and the ending was totally predictable, but Eve betraying Zack and joining Ace as an adviser was kinda neat. But his little group of Eve and Legal Consultant David Otunga wasn't the most threatening force in the WWE. I would've liked to see him gain a bigger administration, but not thrown together faction(A.K.A. King's Court and La Familia) Even Big Show being at his side didn't last long. Though I did find his rivalry with CM Punk entertaining as hell, I would've liked to have seen a big match with them, despite Royal Rumble 2012, and their match on Raw. CM Punk was the best rebel to go against him, he exposed Johnny's weaknesses and old aged, out of touch, connection with the young people. It even still seems like it would take a lot than the accolades and events he went through to make him an effective menace to the WWE Universe(*blech* kinda throw up in my mouth everytime I see that, makes me see Hornswoggle, Fruity Pebbles, and Sheamus' annoying face turn).

So what do you think? Should he make a return if it meant making him a greater force to reckon with? If it meant he would return madder, meaner, and more clever...er? What would make him really destructive to the WWE locker room or make him into the biggest thing of 2013?

**Robstar** · 12-31-2012, 02:13 AM

You're crazy.

You asked for that.

I really liked Big Johnny. I don't know how he went from the penthouse to the outhouse in WWE so quickly, although I have a theory, but it's a damn shame.

**Dameduse823** · 12-31-2012, 02:14 AM

I agree mostly with what your saying, he had potential to be a great heel but as far as I'm concerned there were two big problems. The first was his voice, I know its not something he can help but that droning monotone was such a put off anytime he was on camera and it didn't really allow him to show any emotion. that and the fact that facially he didn't really show any emotion or seemingly any interest in what was going on. Take when punk had him up for the gts, he showed no emotion and his bump was terrible.

The other issue was WWE trying to recreate McMahon/Austin which was just never going to happen, I'm not gonna go into a rant about how punk couldn't even stand in austin's shadow when it comes to his popularity during that storyline but Punk and Jonny she not the people to use while trying to redo this story. Punk was already way to over so there wasn't any shock factor about him like there was when austin broke out and Jonny was so bland that there wasn't really any reason for people to care about someone challenging him.

As for whether he should come back, no. They blew their chance with him and their not gonna get it back, keep him off camera or just make him a regular gm and keep him out of the major stories.

**El Dandy LWO** · 12-31-2012, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by CMBison

....but I think John "Super Dave" Laurinaitis(Yes, I had to Google it, you know you have to everytime you write his name) could've worked. As from a stand point of a fan who would've like to tackle the creative job of making him a really hated person, I would've like to have seen his potential rise to the ranks of Eric Bischoff, McMahon-Helmsey, or even Vince McMahon, but I guess he didn't cut it. If you ask me, it was all on John Cena's involvement, not only did their eventual meeting came too early, but Tensai's streak ended due to the fact he HAD to face Cena with no one else being built up to put on a proper main event. But enough of the ruin-er of everything.....

Johnny Ace's potential could've been more powerful, granted People Power was weak, but I liked how the Team Johnny vs Team Teddy was well built and the ending was totally predictable, but Eve betraying Zack and joining Ace as an adviser was kinda neat. But his little group of Eve and Legal Consultant David Otunga wasn't the most threatening force in the WWE. I would've liked to see him gain a bigger administration, but not thrown together faction(A.K.A. King's Court and La Familia) Even Big Show being at his side didn't last long. Though I did find his rivalry with CM Punk entertaining as hell, I would've liked to have seen a big match with them, despite Royal Rumble 2012, and their match on Raw. CM Punk was the best rebel to go against him, he exposed Johnny's weaknesses and old aged, out of touch, connection with the young people. It even still seems like it would take a lot than the accolades and events he went through to make him an effective menace to the WWE Universe(*blech* kinda throw up in my mouth everytime I see that, makes me see Hornswoggle, Fruity Pebbles, and Sheamus' annoying face turn).

So what do you think? Should he make a return if it meant making him a greater force to reckon with? If it meant he would return madder, meaner, and more clever...er? What would make him really destructive to the WWE locker room or make him into the biggest thing of 2013?

First off I agree that ace was a good on screen character and should have been more to do on the raw before he got fired from the wwe and I think he can come back and come back before wrestlemania and help ziggler beat sheumis at wm28 he can join Paul heman and Vicky can run raw. John was smart for business and can do things on smakdown and make ratings go up bigger than Tna and Dixie cartrer cm punk can help to and make for great tv as he argues with Johnny ace and maybe even big e lankstin doph ziggler and aj styles. And as long as sting comes I'm happy

**TheDevilsAdvocate** · 12-31-2012, 07:52 AM

I agree. RAW always seems empty in certain areas when it is lacking a General Manager. I would love to either see 'Big Johnny' come back or have William Regal regain his position as General Manager. He did a decent job last time if I remember correctly.

**evilgenius780** · 12-31-2012, 08:50 AM

They had something going with Johnny, and a potential match with CM Punk down the road was already set up for them, but it seemed like creative changed their mind once again.

**Jack Newport** · 12-31-2012, 12:32 PM

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**The Piper** · 12-31-2012, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Newport

I'd love to hear the theory. Seriously. I've been wondering what happened myself.

Well, Triple H took over all his duties, so it probably has something to do with him

**Robstar** · 12-31-2012, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Newport

I'd love to hear the theory. Seriously. I've been wondering what happened myself.

Here's my theory - Vince hates it and feels threatened when anyone appearing in the role of an authority figure, usually garnering heat and a lot of it - Big Johnny/Vickie Guerrero(first run) for example - get too "popular" in the role. I'm sure Vince is trying to protect the Mr.McMahon character and it offends his ego to see someone, especially those he considers less than him (which is everyone), do the job as well as him. If left there for too long, Vince would be forced to admit to himself that it wasn't just him (although Mr.McMahon is great) as much as it is the character.
Another offender of Vince's ego was Jim Ross. I truly believe Vince was threatened by JR's wrestling knowledge, his acumen and most likely, his rapport with the wrestlers. I will bet my left nut that guys were constantly going to JR for advice and this would have burned in Vince's craw. So, he was relieved of his duties.
John Laurinaitis, I believe, has suffered from a little of both these things.

**Cabers** · 12-31-2012, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Robstar

Here's my theory - Vince hates it and feels threatened when anyone appearing in the role of an authority figure, usually garnering heat and a lot of it - Big Johnny/Vickie Guerrero(first run) for example - get too "popular" in the role. I'm sure Vince is trying to protect the Mr.McMahon character and it offends his ego to see someone, especially those he considers less than him (which is everyone), do the job as well as him. If left there for too long, Vince would be forced to admit to himself that it wasn't just him (although Mr.McMahon is great) as much as it is the character.
Another offender of Vince's ego was Jim Ross. I truly believe Vince was threatened by JR's wrestling knowledge, his acumen and most likely, his rapport with the wrestlers. I will bet my left nut that guys were constantly going to JR for advice and this would have burned in Vince's craw. So, he was relieved of his duties.
John Laurinaitis, I believe, has suffered from a little of both these things.

Very interesting read there my friend and it is all very possible.