If Not A Cruiserweght Title....

[Robstar]

No looks doesn't matter. I think all of them are too plastic for my taste. I bought the characters for TBP as being closer to reality than what Lay-Cool was. Lay-Cool came across as something that was stitched together by someone in the back as their own fantasy of "Man, these two chicks would look really hot if they were in the ring together at the same time; It'd DEFINATELY give 12 year olds a boner!" whereas TBP truly seemed like legit bitches who would do anything for the notoriety that they felt they deserved (which is why the plastic helped the character). They came across much better as the bitches that they were trying to portray.

Oh no doubt, LayCool were as manufactured and deliberate as all get out, but hey, Layla makes my brain go all ahummana hummana duuuuuhhh *drools*. And it was competently entertaining enough for me and I'll be honest, I didn't see all of TBP stuff. But from what I did see, for me, they really suffered from the bargain basement effort TNA gave to their promotion, like they were an after thought or an add on. I also saw a lot of them towards the end, when they were falling apart and adding terrible new members.

What a shame WWE didn't go after them for their division. And what a shame that as usual, a valid TNA topic gets discussed outside of that forum.

[SilverGhost]

SG - You have a link for PAC and Masato Yoshino vs. Ricochet and CIMA (Way of the Ronin 2011)?

Nope, sorry

I don't follow Dragon Gate though I should since my bro, Necro, showed me its awesomeness. I follow NJPW, NOAH(but I am gonna jump off since it is dying), AJPW(thanks to NOAH fucking up), and BJW(Need some hardcore right?)

Where do you plant mic skills to grow them? lol

I don't know....acting coach? Actually practice on delivering promos?

[Darkside Ron Garvin]

Oh no doubt, LayCool were as manufactured and deliberate as all get out, but hey, Layla makes my brain go all ahummana hummana duuuuuhhh *drools*. And it was competently entertaining enough for me and I'll be honest, I didn't see all of TBP stuff. But from what I did see, for me, they really suffered from the bargain basement effort TNA gave to their promotion, like they were an after thought or an add on. I also saw a lot of them towards the end, when they were falling apart and adding terrible new members.

What a shame WWE didn't go after them for their division. And what a shame that as usual, a valid TNA topic gets discussed outside of that forum.

Unfortunate, but it seems to be the norm for me; you know having an intelligent conversation about TNA usually takes place outside of a TNA forum. And you definitely missed the best parts of TBP is you’re talking about the additions of Winter and Lacy V. Madison helped a little to revive it, but she really didn’t do much more that become the sacrificial lamb when Love needed an escape route. Had TNA pushed the marketing of Knockouts at the time, the division had a very high glass ceiling – Taylor Wilde, Gail Kim, Awesome Kong, TBP, Mickey and Tara; could have been great.

Nope, sorry

I don't follow Dragon Gate though I should since my bro, Necro, showed me its awesomeness. I follow NJPW, NOAH(but I am gonna jump off since it is dying), AJPW(thanks to NOAH fucking up), and BJW(Need some hardcore right?)



I don't know....acting coach? Actually practice on delivering promos?

I only have followed BJW since the cross over from CZW. The Ito vs. Masada feud was sick though. I hate seeing cinder blocks being used but the skewers definitely set Masada apart in terms of the ultraviolent world.

DragonGate is worth checking out. Have you seen any of the Evolve shows? Evolve 7 (I believe) had Moxley vs. Aries and the promos leading up to the match were just plain awesome. Really worth the revisit if you have the chance.

[B-MCINTYRE]

PAC is Adrian Neville right? That guy was awesome in the match I have seen of his..

[Wade Barrett 1979]

PAC is Adrian Neville right? That guy was awesome in the match I have seen of his..

He is indeed, he looked pretty slick in the tag team match v Slater & McIntyre. As I said at the time, he has everything the E wanted from Cara. He looks more polished and more in tune with the WWE 'style' already.

[B-MCINTYRE]

He is indeed, he looked pretty slick in the tag team match v Slater & McIntyre. As I said at the time, he has everything the E wanted from Cara. He looks more polished and more in tune with the WWE 'style' already.

From what I saw. You are correct.

[the wrestling shade]

...then maybe we can have an extended cruiserweight King Of The Ring?

OK so the roster isn't full of smaller guys but there is enough if you do a round-robin type tournament that extends over a couple of months. Give the wrestlers the chance to score points based off win, lose or draw with penalties for DQ's and countouts - encourage there to be a result.

Guys from NXT and FCW would be eligible as well and perhaps unsigned indy guys to fill out the numbers, which could be used as formal (or informal) tryouts. The matches could be divided through ALL the shows with the emphasis early on Main Event, Saturday Morning Slam and Superstars (which I think still exists in some form?) & NXT.

The KOTR title would be very a very useful tool to promote some of these smaller guys. Just an idea but I thought worthy of discussion anyway. (NOT expecting to happen though)

Well I tell you one thing! they a ton of time at their hands with RAW going 3 hours, and fans wouldn't mind seeing a bit of high-flying + speed type of choreography each week. so yeah! why not! After all, they need to deliver some nice mix along with the heavyweight storylines and their "funny" stuff!

[Cabers]

WWE needs a Television Championship.

In the good old days of FCW TV they had what they called the Jack Brisco 15 Championship (which was actually a medal) it was fantastic minimum of 15 minutes most pinfalls or submissions wins. Great tv my favourite clash was Damien Sandow vs. Seth Rollins truly excellent.

[Jack Newport]

Lay-Cool > TBP???






Sorry, but I'd take Vel Vel and A Love over McCool and Lay Lay, but that's just due to personal preference. It has nothing to do with looks; I just think that TBP worked much better together than Lay-Cool did.

I agree. Not only was TBP the original "mean girls" duo, but their chemistry was natural due to being such good friends in real life. Even wrestling fans outside of TNA liked them. That stable might as well be the Four Horsemen of Divas and Knockouts.

I'm not saying McCool and Layla weren't friends in real life (they were), but LayCool came off as a cheap rip-off. Very unnatural, very scriped, and matter how much they were forced down our throats, they never got over with the fans either.

I never wanted TBP to end. I never wanted LayCool to even begin.

[Peter Kaymakcian]

Where do you plant mic skills to grow them? lol

I don't know if you can though. I mean I think it's just something you are born with. Some people are born with that natural it factor. I think you can learn to become at ease with speaking in public, but I doubt you can be taught that it factor. Just one man's opinion though.