Bitch about PG here

[AGEOFFALL]

In that case I hope Linda loses.

Right now it looks like she is winning, which is really is a surprise cause now one could have guessed she would make it that far.

[Guybrush_Threepwood]

Without doubt its hurting heels and face's . John cena would be more likeable if he could cut promo's like when he was a heel rapper. CM punk and wade barrett's promo's would be amazing but the miz's promo's IMO would be like the rock if he could let loose.

But The WWE doesn't need to be TV14 to produce a good show , wasn't WCW PG when all the NWO stuff was going on during 1996-1998 ? i know WCW was TV14 by 2000 though .

Its the writer's or vince resting on his laurel's or stephanie ,its seems the WWE doesn't try to me . Raw for an episodic TV show doesn't have much continuity, the nexus brought some of the flair back and showed what the WWE can do when they try . But to me the nexus angle is already ruined, if the WWE had good writer's or creative and used nexus right WWE would be getting 4 to 5 million viewers a week. Look at what the WWE did with nexus putting bret hart in the limo and crashing it into cars that is not very PG and btw the daniel byran tie firing was a work by the WWE so they could keep it quiet about him returning at summerslam.

The elephant in the room for me is stephanie mcmahon head of creative , Since she has been in control of creative since i think 2006 how many good storylines have we had? Two IMO the randy orton - HHH feud and the nexus angle. For all we know the writer's might be coming up with great storyline's but they don't get past steph becuase she is really PG in her thinking. btw i don't know if steph is more conservative and likes PG ,but you would think so by now after looking at the storyline's of the last 4 years.

[Belzova]

Right now it looks like she is winning, which is really is a surprise cause now one could have guessed she would make it that far.

I really doubt they are doing that stuff because of Linda.
But has anyone other than NightWolf an AzureSkye noticed that they ARE in fact pushing the Pg rating to its limits?
So I have no complaints. They have found tons of ways to get their point across without using swear words.

[TheDevilsAdvocate]

Without doubt its hurting heels and face's . John cena would be more likeable if he could cut promo's like when he was a heel rapper. CM punk and wade barrett's promo's would be amazing but the miz's promo's IMO would be like the rock if he could let loose.

But The WWE doesn't need to be TV14 to produce a good show , wasn't WCW PG when all the NWO stuff was going on during 1996-1998 ? i know WCW was TV14 by 2000 though .

Its the writer's or vince resting on his laurel's or stephanie ,its seems the WWE doesn't try to me . Raw for an episodic TV show doesn't have much continuity, the nexus brought some of the flair back and showed what the WWE can do when they try . But to me the nexus angle is already ruined, if the WWE had good writer's or creative and used nexus right WWE would be getting 4 to 5 million viewers a week. Look at what the WWE did with nexus putting bret hart in the limo and crashing it into cars that is not very PG and btw the daniel byran tie firing was a work by the WWE so they could keep it quiet about him returning at summerslam.

The elephant in the room for me is stephanie mcmahon head of creative , Since she has been in control of creative since i think 2006 how many good storylines have we had? Two IMO the randy orton - HHH feud and the nexus angle. For all we know the writer's might be coming up with great storyline's but they don't get past steph becuase she is really PG in her thinking. btw i don't know if steph is more conservative and likes PG ,but you would think so by now after looking at the storyline's of the last 4 years.

All of the points you made were great, and I agree 99%. An I say that because IMO the Nexus storyline was very lazy an rushed. There was no true build up. It was just random beat downs, and then the Nexus began to slowly fall apart. The only members of that group that continue to impress me is Michael Tarver, Wade Barret, Justin Gabriel, and YES even Darren Young. Those select few have a future ahead of them. However, Heath Slater has started to grow on me, but I can see him getting lost in the shuffle along with Skip, and Otunga.


As for Steph she actually likes an supports the PG rating. She, and her father have said numerous times that it was all about making the right business move, and that they wanted FAMILIES to be involved with the product vs. having a ton of adults. The only thing that I can name that bothers me more than that PG rating would be how they use the talent they currently have. Edge, Christian, Randy, and CM Punk are being hurt by the pg rating. That much I can agree on. (Look up E&C segs, and Cm Punks early promos, an especially my fav where Punk is doing his invisible mic one along with some Randy ones from early Evolution all the way until the demise of Rated RKO.)

The dumbest storyline currently in the pg era is in fact the anonymous GM one. Who the f**k is it? I hate having to hear Michael say "Excuse me ladies an gentlemen!" an that freakin' *ding dong* noise along with the flickering lights. Just show him already. Because, if it isn't The Rock or Stone Cold or HHH or Booker T making his return to the WWE then IDFC. I already know I will be dissapointed though.

[SnaggleTooth]

Right now it looks like she is winning, which is really is a surprise cause now one could have guessed she would make it that far.

It's not that I don't like Linda, but if they're watering down an already watered-down product to help get her butt into a Congressional seat, it probably explains why WWE shows aren't on my weekly must-watch list anymore. My last attempt at following a WWE storyline was the SES but now if I miss SD and the latest chapter of Punk & Co.,... meh, I'll read the results on the Internet later.

[SilverGhost]

I really doubt they are doing that stuff because of Linda.
But has anyone other than NightWolf an AzureSkye noticed that they ARE in fact pushing the Pg rating to its limits?
So I have no complaints. They have found tons of ways to get their point across without using swear words.

I know WWE is trying hard enough to make this PG era great. But this "best" isn't so good. Was it a great business move? Yes. Was it good for the wrestlers? Probably no. The kids are the target for WWE. Kids=money for WWE. And since WWE is family friendly, the parents will buy the WWE stuff because its not violent, its not graphic, and its not controversial.

For the people who knows wrestling well, we know that WWE "wrestling" is limited to keep the PG rating. Since PG has been around, we have seen crappy storylines. This made WRESTLING, not sports entertainment, dull. You can say that with the PG stuff, WWE is now the equivalent of a soap opera on TV.

Also because of the PG era, Linda McMahon can be traced back to the WWE with no bad marks whatsoever. When WWE has an issue with its wrestlers and such, they try to close the lid quickly. Remember Linda doesn't want to be tainted with the bad marks of WWE, only with family friendly programming. Lance Cade's death for example: WWE give him time in the website but had to quickly take it off. Wrestlers death's have been increasing since I can remember. More notable one was Chris Benoit. I doubt Linda wants to be labeled as a murderer and such. WWE can give rough schedules. It doesn't take a genius to know that much. But when it comes to wrestler's deaths, WWE basically erase their ties.

Basically what I am trying to say is that the WWE PG programming is beneficial for business, executives, kids and parents, but it goes against the wrestling fans that long for another Attitude Era. I am not saying anything wrong with WWE's business decisions, but if they wanted to change its programming they should at least have had GREAT ideas to back it up.

All of this....is just my thoughts on WWEPG.

[AGEOFFALL]

Here's another thought. Since wwe is pg is it possible that the reason so many of wwe's storylines suck is because they are they are trying to keep them simple enough for the little kids to understand what's going on.

[SilverGhost]

Here's another thought. Since wwe is pg is it possible that the reason so many of wwe's storylines suck is because they are they are trying to keep them simple enough for the little kids to understand what's going on.

What is there to understand for them? 8~12 don't understand segments and such. Only when the wrestlers say "I am going to beat you" then kids go crazy. My little brother,11, doesn't stick around for segments or promos only when said reason happens, he goes ballistic.

[djsoulslayer]

I wouldn't say it hurts them but it definitely challenges them. Despite the WWE being PG, we have seen some heel superstars's promos shine such as miz and kane. U just gotta know what u wanna say without saying it how u would really like to say it. (if that makes sense)

[AGEOFFALL]

What is there to understand for them? 8~12 don't understand segments and such. Only when the wrestlers say "I am going to beat you" then kids go crazy. My little brother,11, doesn't stick around for segments or promos only when said reason happens, he goes ballistic.

Well i guess it's just s#!tty booking then.