So while i know tommy has drawn a "line", i just want to say one thing that touches on icing, and the op. To me, i view one of the biggest issues is just activity. In the last 2 months what are 1 or 2 efeds you know would most likely be at the top of the efed section? Bet most of you said iwa or wwe. That is because those threads were active whether by icing, or by chit chat, or whatever, stuff was happening there. Some could chalk it up to those efeds keeping a somewhat regular schedule, but look at ewncw. Tjb did an amazing job of getting inferno posted the same time each week. Then after a little feedback, activity would die. If you cant be bothered to ic, then be active in another way.