WWE (a shadow of its former self)

[Robstar]

I don't quite understand why you said this. I agreed with everything you said in this thread. GG is choosing to be on an online forum, I don't need to be her savior and protect her from anyone... If anything I did take issue with her saying that the product insults her intellect. But hey, we are adults here for the most part, and choose to be here... so I can't really force what I believe down her throat. I can only provide argumentation to support premises that I put forth.

Oh Dennis

[Darkside Ron Garvin]

I guess you missed the other 2 ppvs where they went at it without aj as the ref. And when i said they let them go at it i was talking about them and guys like them in general. 10 years ago guys like punk amd bryan wouldnt have been in the main event picture let alone the champion. And now d-bry is a former whc and punk a former wwe/whc with a record breaking reign with the former. And yeah bryan is relegated to the comedy scene for the time being but he left the main event picture to help re establish the tag division with kane. He still puts on great performances and his segments are some of the most entertaining on the whole program. Plus i have no doubt that after team hell no, bryam will be back in the title picture.

What other PPVs? There was Money in the Bank and Over the Limit last year. Those were the two that had D-Bry versus Punk head to head for the WWE title. I am not knocking the stance of Bryan or Punk, nor am I knocking their abilities in the ring. I am just pointing out the fact that in the "now" that you implied, Punk and D-Bry are not tearing off the proverbial "fucking roofs" as you have put it. Nor have they been doing so for the better part of 6 months. If you were implying house shows then we'd be looking at right around the 5-6 month mark. Is your point to the fact that the prototype for the WWE superstar has changed in general because that is not what the bolded part that I highlighted was talking about.


Also - 10 years ago we had HBK, Benoit, Guerrero, Angle, Jericho, Edge, Christian, Rey Mysterio... I am not so sure these athletes you speak of are the "ground-breakers" you are making them out to be my friend.

[URATOOL]

I'm confused. For the following reasons:

1) I took you till the second half of last year to decide (in your opinion) that the WWE wasn't worth watching. I don't see the product changing in watchablity much in the last 3 or 4 year. What happened in late 2012 to put you off?
2) How can you state a dislike for the current product if you are not watching it, therefore don't truly know how it is.

And lastly, but I feel most importantly.....

3) Why the fuck are you bothering to voice an opinion on something you have abandoned?????? Surely you shouldn't care enough to start a thread?

[Rassling_Fan]

I like the current WWE product because it seems to be back to how I watched wrestling as a kid. Where we had definitive good and bad guys. Where the action was in the ring more than out of it. Sure, the Tag Division and Divas could be improved a lot more, but at the same time they give you the opportunity to cheer the heel or boo the face.

As for watching TNA, I have once more since James Storm won the TNA World Title. Been enjoying what I see since then, but they have been slowly going back to what I disliked about TNA: Focusing on a "Takeover" Group that aren't really threatening, more focus on non-TNA wrestlers, referencing things that makes you want to watch old wrestling that the WWE owns, etc.

There are still good things: Dark AJ (since he hasn't really established heel/face yet), Matt Morgan (who made himself into something from what the WWE did with him (practically nothing)), the wrestling and promo work in general (loved the one where Jesse gives Terra a pep talk with a Angelina toy) and others. If TNA could make the right changes they could become the threat to WWE.

Though I wish the Super Events of the days before my time were still around. Imagine the idea of TNA and WWE working together for a one time yearly event. Or like how ECW's relationship was with WWE and/or WCW.

[Glamour Girl]

I'm confused. For the following reasons:

1) I took you till the second half of last year to decide (in your opinion) that the WWE wasn't worth watching. I don't see the product changing in watchablity much in the last 3 or 4 year. What happened in late 2012 to put you off?
2) How can you state a dislike for the current product if you are not watching it, therefore don't truly know how it is.

And lastly, but I feel most importantly.....

3) Why the fuck are you bothering to voice an opinion on something you have abandoned?????? Surely you shouldn't care enough to start a thread?

I will state once again I watched it for 10 years which entitles me to an opinion, I also don't see why the fact that I have an opinion should bother you or anyone since my opinion is based on my time before I decided to stop watching it and I have read enough to know it hasn't changed since I stopped watching. You make it seem like a major change occurred after I stopped watching and that change was enough to take away my past 10 years of experience. Finally I will say that while I'm no longer a WWE fan I am still a wrestling fan and I'm interested in knowing people's opinions about this subject whether you feel I have a right to ask or not.

[URATOOL]

I will state once again I watched it for 10 years which entitles me to an opinion, I also don't see why the fact that I have an opinion should bother you or anyone since my opinion is based on my time before I decided to stop watching it and I have read enough to know it hasn't changed since I stopped watching. You make it seem like a major change occurred after I stopped watching and that change was enough to take away my past 10 years of experience. Finally I will say that while I'm no longer a WWE fan I am still a wrestling fan and I'm interested in knowing people's opinions about this subject whether you feel I have a right to ask or not.

Did you even read my reply? I only ask because it looks like you were replying to a bunch of stuff I didn't say. Yes you've watch for 10 years. So what? Some of us have watch for 20, 30 or more years. What's that got to do with it. I just don't see what the fuck (and I'll say it sloooowly) yooooou arrrrre stiiiiiiiiiiill haaaaaanging oooooooon tooooooo yoooooooour diiiiiisliiiiiiiick oooooooof aaaaaaaaaa proooooduuuuuuct yoooooou haaaaaave stoooooooopped waaaaaaatchiiiiiiiing. Get over it and move on with your life. Or you just look bitter.

Are you one of those people that still bang on about that relationship that ended badly 9 years ago?

[Glamour Girl]

Did you even read my reply? I only ask because it looks like you were replying to a bunch of stuff I didn't say. Yes you've watch for 10 years. So what? Some of us have watch for 20, 30 or more years. What's that got to do with it. I just don't see what the fuck (and I'll say it sloooowly) yooooou arrrrre stiiiiiiiiiiill haaaaaanging oooooooon tooooooo yoooooooour diiiiiisliiiiiiiick oooooooof aaaaaaaaaa proooooduuuuuuct yoooooou haaaaaave stoooooooopped waaaaaaatchiiiiiiiing. Get over it and move on with your life. Or you just look bitter.

Are you one of those people that still bang on about that relationship that ended badly 9 years ago?

This post wasn't a rant, I only mentioned I don't watch it anymore one time and proceeded to ask people who do still watch it. You make it seem like I wrote a post about why I don't like WWE anymore, but again I will say that while I share my opinion I don't have to defend it to you or anyone so if I feel like asking you can answer, not answer or just question why I wrote a post to which my answer will always be... BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT. If you're the EWN police proceed to arrest me and if you're not then either answer one of the 3 questions I asked originally or stop asking me as if I owe you an explanation.