Cross Armbreaker- the new threat to the World Title

**The New Guy** · 02-25-2011, 08:47 PM

Makes me remember when angle put somebody in the ankle lock
The move is awesome, Alberto knows how to put it (thanks to his mma experience), and makes it and exciting move to see
But I also hope he gets a non-submission finisher soon, It could make him a more well-rounded superstar

**Lowki** · 02-25-2011, 10:11 PM

The armbar ISN'T a MMA move! Noone can lock in an armbar because it is incredibly hard to actually pull off in real situations which makes it pointless! It's used as often as a powerbomb (check Quinten Jackson for the only successful powerbomb victory!)

There's ways around an actual armbar; Grip your arm with your free hand. Roll INTO the armbar meaning you put pressure on your arm causing it to fold.

**Rich Cranium** · 02-25-2011, 10:49 PM

Last edited by Rich Cranium; 02-25-2011 at 10:58 PM.

**Scottland** · 02-25-2011, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rich Cranium

Actually an armbar is an MMA move used as a submission from either the mount or guard and can really hurt you.
Here is an example of a quick MMA win due to an armbar submission:

Now, that's were the armbar hurts.

**TheMadThinker** · 02-25-2011, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Rich Cranium

Actually an armbar is an MMA move used as a submission from either the mount or guard and can really hurt you.
Here is an example of a quick MMA win due to an armbar submission:

He is wrong about it not being an MMA move, but he is correct about countering the move. If you can roll into it and clasp your hands together it breaks the leverage of the hold. The hole point is to never straighten out your arm so the joint is locked completely.

**johnadah** · 02-26-2011, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by TheMadThinker

He is wrong about it not being an MMA move, but he is correct about countering the move. If you can roll into it and clasp your hands together it breaks the leverage of the hold. The hole point is to never straighten out your arm so the joint is locked completely.

The problem with that idea is that, once the hold is locked in (and I mean actually locked in, not just some form of the hold is in place) then it is extremely difficult to "roll into it" and release the pressure. That's the whole point of the other guy locking your arm in between his legs and crossing his legs over your chest. There's a good chance that one man's legs are going to be significantly stronger than another man's chest. The bottom line is, yes, it can be countered. No, it is not by any means easy.

**xStraightxEdgexSaviorx** · 02-26-2011, 01:43 AM

In a scripted environment, yes it can be countered, as can any move. In the real world it can apparently be countered as well. In the scripted world however I can see a Dean Malenko turning it into a cloverleaf perhaps. It would be hard no doubt, but it would look incredible. I also agree that it is one of the strongest booked moves in the WWE right now.

My ranking of the strongest booked moves in the WWE currently:
1. Punt to the Head- Randy Orton
2. Knock Out Punch- Big Show
3. Tombstone Piledriver- Undertaker
4. 450 Splash- Justin Gabriel
5. Cross Arm-breaker- ADR
6. RKO- Randy Orton
7. Air Bourne- Evan Bourne
8. STF- John Cena
9. Skull Crushing Finale- The Miz
10a. Labell Lock- Daniel Bryan
10b. Razor's Edge (I forget what he calls it)- Sheamus

**Tommy Thunder** · 02-26-2011, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by Scottland

Cena is a submission specialist? Never thought I would have heard Cena with the title of "submission specialist". First for everything...I guess.

Well if Michael Cole says so, then it must be true...

**HuGrad** · 02-26-2011, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by maar13

The more you move it further damages your elbow, if you move with enough force to the inside you can get your other arm next to the damaged arm and kick your opponent in the head or carry him all the way up and hit a one arm Power Bomb. In reallity that also can be done like with a triangle choke but you take the risk of further the damage to the arm or if the applier gets aware of it he ca evwen break you are in a matter of seconds.

This is groundbreaking. all wrestlers on the roster need to take notice. As McMahon would say.....DEVASTATING MANEUVER!!!!