Originally Posted by
GoldSpirit
I am NOT a casual fan. Let's get that straight. I watch wrestling FOR THE WRESTLING (wow...what a shocking revelation.). So let's not act like it's a question of my appreciation for the art of wrestling. That's sort of MY ENTIRE POINT. As for your "explanation" of why each match will be good:
Miz v Cena
First thing. Yes. Rock needs to layeth the smackdown on all their candy asses. but I digress...
I'd LOVE to watch a 20 min match for the WWE Championship... a GREAT match, that is.
You explain that it will be good by saying "...Now Cena isn't the best wrestler out there, and neither is The Miz...".
That's like saying Besides this movie sucking it's going to be a good movie.
What?
And of COURSE it'll be better than anything with EVE in it.
That's like saying This fried bulltesticle will taste better than a piece of bloody snot wrapped turd.
2) Undertaker vs. HHH: Who are you to say when someone should retire from doing what he loves? I know many of us get that feeling that Triple H burys everyone upon his return, but hes a big name in the business, and can continue to draw big crowds, and main event PPVs. This will probably be the match of the night, and perhaps of the year, in the WWE. Taker has gotten older, slower, and people say that his injuries have caught up with him, but if you've been watching Wrestlemania the past few years, you'l know damn well that everytime Takers in a match at Mania, he brings his A game, and puts on the best damn match that you will see.
So, I can have an opinion as to whether a guy should "hang it up" or not?
Actually, yes I can. Hell, YOU even say "...Taker has gotten older, slower, and people say that his injuries have caught up with him...", Yes...very true. They HAVE caught up with him.
He's the Bret Favre of the WWE. (and ALMOST Ric Flair... I Don't want to see 50 yr old 'Taker in the ring. I don't mark out when the gong tolls.--I DID when I was 9 and he debuted.)
The WWE and Taker are both UNSURE about his health status. It's not even a matter of it being like "Is he good to go or not?" it's "How much is HHH going to have to carry this match and how do we get away with putting a guy THAT injured out there and still sell it.".
I HAVE seen Taker's matches from the past few years. Wrestling years are like dog years. The Undertaker isn't the same guy he was 5 years ago, or 3 years ago. He's not even the same guy he was LAST year. Why do you think it's NO HOLDS BARRED? Because they can go outside, use weapons, etc. it's , surprisingly, LESS physical that way. no big bumps in the ring... just his signatures. I'm neglecting that HHH isn't the same GAME he once was. We aren't watching WM 17. I'm not terribly excited about this match because I don't think, FROM A WRESTLING PERSPECTIVE, it will be very good. I'm sure the WWE will find a way to make us forget how bad the WRESTLING is going to be (see: HBK)
Edge v ADR
Sorry, i don't like ADR... why? He's boring. He's boring on the mic, his entrance is retarded, and that he "...puts on the most entertaining matches on Smackdown..." is not exactly a ringing endorsment. So, GREAT... the future MEXICAN star of the WWE. Well, He, Santino, Koslov, Sheamus, The Ghost of Eddie Fatu, The Iron Shiek, Finlay, Renee Dupree and every other "foreign" wrestler can go start a wrestlers U.N.. Yay. (see: Sin Cara).
And what, exactly, is limiting Edge about the PG factor? Is it limiting from hitting the gym? Is it limiting him from putting on "so-so" matches?...Is it limiting him from looking like Doc Brown from Back to the Future?
As for the comment about the Spear... (a joke. a goddamned joke.... as the entire "breakdown" was mean to be.
Still don't give a rat's ass about this match. Awesome that they are really going all in on Del Rio. (see: NEW CHAMPION CROWNED AT WM)
Rey v Cody Rhodes
So, the entire point of this match is to put over CR? Great... awesome. And Rey jobs again.
Hasn't Cody gotten a win in his career over the Vets in WWE?
Sad that I'll be forced to watch a JOB at WM.
Why, exactly, would this transition CR to the mainevent?
So, he wins against an injury prone, 38 yr old smurf who, by his own admission, isn't the wrestler he was and has had to "modify"... yay.
Ric Flair? good news. You're still in the game.
you're entertaining. you don't botch your moves and you can hit them as well as you did all those years ago. (see: ridiculous falling down, praying for mercy, kicking people in the nuts)
This match has about as much charisma as a mime with aspergers, post stroke.
Daniel Bryan v Sheamus
I've watched DB. And yes, he would be awesome to watch at the VFW hall. YAY! A hero for SMARKS!
Now, I'll admit. I LIKE DB. but I'm not going to go out on a limb (and reach for the IWC brand Kool Aid) and say he is the "Greatest Wrestler in the World". But please, fell free to explain to me EXACTLY AND IN DETAIL why he IS...
now, to quote you "...Last year, he put on better matches than the entire roster, including the veterans...." Really? He put on better matches? Did they tape them because I'd LOVE to see them. I DID see him have some pretty good matches (from SS on.) but I want to see these AMAZING matches, the likes of which have NEVER been seen!!
and then you follow up with... " Not bad for a "newbie" huh? He stole the spotlight at virtually every PPV..." ...(silence)...
Really?
Response:
Miz v Cena: The Rock doesn't need to do anything in this match. Even having him on the card is a bonus. You missed the point of what I said about this match. You only quoted half of what I said. I said that neither man is the best wrestler out there, and its true. If I put up a match saying "John Cena vs The Miz", saying that its the best thing ever, obviously people are going to think I'm retarded. Anyone can see that neither man can put on good matches, but they can at least put on decent matches.
Undertaker vs. HHH: You said Taker isn't the same guy he was 3-5 years ago. Your'e right, he has had many injuries, and nagging pains, and therefore works a lighter schedule. But as for his matches at Mania, tell me that they haven't gotten better over the past few years. Tell me that you'd rather see Taker vs Edge than Taker vs HBK. I know I wouldn't.
As for "marking out" for Taker..you don't have to be a child to be inspired and captivated with him. Children love his character. As an adult, I don't watch him mainly for that, but his
matches.
Edge v ADR: Like I said earlier, this one for you is up to personal tastes. I love ADR's mic, and ring work. Again here, you miss the point about how Edge fits in with the PG factor. His promo work had to have a major overhaul when the rating changed to PG. When it was M, or R(its different here than it is in the States), he had more freedom on the mic, and could cut promos, and do things that made him the "Rated R Superstar". He can't do those things anymore. He can't swear, bring up sex, or anything edgy like he used to.
Rey v Cody Rhodes: It takes 2 to tango. Lets say Cody had a feud with R-Truth. I doubt either of them would come out as a better superstar. Cody feuding with an established wrestler, like Rey, could catapult him to the next level, without JOBBING. Its been done before-Triple H beat Sheamus at Mania last year, and the match wasn't one sided, like you'd expect. Where did Sheamus go from there? He won the WWE title again. And don't compare Ric to Rey. Ric is much older, and does all of those things that you say he did. I don't see Rey on the floor praying for mercy, or falling down. Just because someone is "old", doesn't mean that they can't still go. Rey isn't even that old, hes what-38? There are older talent that can still wrestle well: Kurt Angle is the perfect example here. Hes 42, and still wrestle great matches. Other guys who are around Rey's age, and can still go? Christian, Mr Anderson, Matt Morgan, Sheamus, Edge, and even R-Truth(he can move pretty fast, and athletically for a 39 year old).
Daniel Bryan v Sheamus: Why is he the best wrestler in the world? I think common sense would answer that question. What he does in his matches in WWE are just a fraction of what hes capable of. They won't let him do most of his moveset that he used on the indys, and won't let him have matches that are over 30 minutes, because hes not "established" enough. Go watch some of his ROH matches on Youtube, and you'l see what I'm talking about.
And why the fuck should The Miz be called the best wrestler in the world? Because hes holding the WWE title? In that case, you can add several more names to that list. I said
wrestler, not entertainer. The Miz is more of an entertainer, than a wrestler. Daniel Bryan is more of a wrestler, than an entertainer. You see what I'm getting at here? And by the way, the US title has been around since 1975. Only the belt design has changed. The names you listed up there were after the design of the belt changed, to the current one we have now. That list doesn't look impressive, except from Benoit's name on it. But the names that came from the 70s, 80s, and 90s sure as fuck made that title prestigious. Daniel Bryan's reminding us of that prestige, by having a long title reign, defending it often, and putting on great matches.
In conclusion: If you watch Wrestlemania, for free, and still feel cheated, then you shouldn't even watch it in the first place. As someone who is passionate about wrestling, I will order this PPV, and enjoy watching it.
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