The DEFINITIVE English football banter thread

**Karsten Langenfeld** · 12-07-2012, 04:52 AM

So, my friends...germany is hunting England for that second spot in the UEFA coefficient table. Right now we are 2.6 points behind you, and next season the results of 2009 will be scratched, which will close the gap even further to a mere 0.3 points. We might even get you this season. What do you guys think...is the german Bundesliga really on par with the premiere League?

**magglis** · 12-07-2012, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by Karsten Langenfeld

So, my friends...germany is hunting England for that second spot in the UEFA coefficient table. Right now we are 2.6 points behind you, and next season the results of 2009 will be scratched, which will close the gap even further to a mere 0.3 points. We might even get you this season. What do you guys think...is the german Bundesliga really on par with the premiere League?

Are you the German JJ or something?

Every other league in the world is no where near to EPL

**Karsten Langenfeld** · 12-07-2012, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by magglis

Are you the German JJ or something?

Every other league in the world is no where near to EPL

Ok, care to elaborate why? is it the arab investors that make it so special? The only team that really constantly stands out and delivers on a big level is ManU. Mancity and Chelsea are just big because of their investors, and as you could see in the CL, money cant buy success. Also i think the Bundesliga and the Primera division are way ahead of the EPL when it comes to the atmosphere in the stadiums.

**Wade Barrett 1979** · 12-07-2012, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by Karsten Langenfeld

So, my friends...germany is hunting England for that second spot in the UEFA coefficient table. Right now we are 2.6 points behind you, and next season the results of 2009 will be scratched, which will close the gap even further to a mere 0.3 points. We might even get you this season. What do you guys think...is the german Bundesliga really on par with the premiere League?

I don't think co-efficient rankings really reflect on how good a league is otherwise Bundesliga would be above La Liga.

Were Chelsea really the best team in Europe last year? Or did they just know how to organise themselves in a couple of knock out games, while riding a bit of luck?

**Karsten Langenfeld** · 12-07-2012, 06:03 AM

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**Wade Barrett 1979** · 12-07-2012, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by Karsten Langenfeld

Well. The Bundesliga has the highest average attendance in europe, they have the healthiest finance, there is NO investor involved, no team is living off of borrowed money, the stadiums are all brandnew and hightech with a few exceptions, the only thing they lack is a major title in the last few years, but that will change i would assume. And also, as i already said, the atmosphere is much better since nearly every single game is sold out, and we still have real STANDS. So. What EXACTLY makes the other leagues better?

and if with 'la liga' you mean the serie a in italy, half of their teams are basically completely broke and will be gone from international football once the financial fairplay rules will kick in, same goes for quite a few teams in spain.

La Liga is the Spanish league and I'm agreeing with you on the Bundesliga, that was the point I was making.

**Karsten Langenfeld** · 12-07-2012, 06:33 AM

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**AshleyPunk** · 12-07-2012, 06:37 AM

Another week of school over

Now.....Bring on the derby!

**VanHooliganX** · 12-07-2012, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by Karsten Langenfeld

Well. The Bundesliga has the highest average attendance in europe, they have the healthiest finance, there is NO investor involved, no team is living off of borrowed money, the stadiums are all brandnew and hightech with a few exceptions, the only thing they lack is a major title in the last few years, but that will change i would assume. And also, as i already said, the atmosphere is much better since nearly every single game is sold out, and we still have real STANDS. So. What EXACTLY makes the other leagues better?

and if with 'la liga' you mean the serie a in italy, half of their teams are basically completely broke and will be gone from international football once the financial fairplay rules will kick in, same goes for quite a few teams in spain.

The wikipedia article on highest averages aren't exactly accurate. A lot of our teams with bigger stadiums are in Championship.

QPR can only hold 18k and only about 10-15 teams can hold over 30K. Teams like Leeds, Boro, both Sheffields, etc. are all capable of bigger attendances then them but aren't able to get back up yet.

I'm sure you have the same problem with your weaker sides in your league and some B-liga 2 teams but we've had a lot more get relegated.

Granted your money abilities are above all teams but Chavski and City so arguement here but a lot of our teams have hightech equipment and facilities.

Atmosphere doesn't mean anything in being a better league though. Better fanbases? Hell yeah, I imagine that easily compared to half our teams but an atmosphere isn't going to equal better quality of football. If it worked like that. MLB would be behind Mexico, Korea and Japans Baseball League.

The biggest difference the BPL has over every other league and every other sport is simply it's everywhere. In asia a lot of teams have stupid amount of support. In America a lot of the MLS supporters now also follow an EPL team. Nearly all countries get Premier League fixtures.

Pau was telling me how Sunderland vs Norwich was getting advertised in the Liga MX grand final in Mexico. It's just the massive advantage we have over all of them. It's a worldwide league. This in turn equals bigger cash for the 20 teams in the League. You'd be surprised how much every team gets per year.

Other massive advantages we have is our style of play. It's fast paced end to end stuff. A lot more interesting then how MLS, Seria Rigged or any league is like. It makes it more interesting to watch.

Plus our players are a big help. I'm not saying no league has star players. B-Liga has beast and amazing players but you can't point to 1 team in BPL who doesn't have someone great.

United - RVP, Rooney, manager Fergie
Liverpool - Gerrard and Suarez
Stoke - Owen
City - Ballotelli, Aguero, Silva
Arsenal - Padolski
Villa - Given
Chelsea - Cheaters, an idiotic owner, Mata
Wigan - Gomez
Newcastle - Ba and Cisse, ben arfa, collochini(sp?)
Everton - Fellani, jelavic

List goes on.