HCollins' problems with the WWE

**zrdt12** · 09-09-2011, 06:45 PM

Last edited by zrdt12; 09-09-2011 at 06:48 PM.

**Russo swerve** · 09-09-2011, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by zrdt12

Only way to get them both out of the picture is to have a non-title feud between them, tweener it all the way obv. I do think that at live events WE NEED TO STOP BOOING CENA. It just messes things up and doesn't work and is disrespectful. He's acting to be the good guy and deserves to be treated like one (even if you hate him).

7. Mid Card talent:
Of those listed, I think Sheamus is the only great talent of them. It takes something special to get into the main event and most guys in mid card range don't have that. We all knew guys like Orton/Cena had it at the time and deserve to be there. It was a different times and times are always changing.

On a side note, it just had this nightmare that Zack Ryder had a 29 week vlog work for WWE to elevate him up there and it's working. I couldn't see him being any more than a super-over low-mid card guy unless he begins to prove himself. Just doesn't seem like the kind of guy that will be able to cut those promos.

Lol stop booing cena thats a good one pee wee

**Tay Moran** · 09-09-2011, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by zrdt12

Only way to get them both out of the picture is to have a non-title feud between them, tweener it all the way obv. I do think that at live events WE NEED TO STOP BOOING CENA. It just messes things up and doesn't work and is disrespectful. He's acting to be the good guy and deserves to be treated like one (even if you hate him).

7. Mid Card talent:
Of those listed, I think Sheamus is the only great talent of them. It takes something special to get into the main event and most guys in mid card range don't have that. We all knew guys like Orton/Cena had it at the time and deserve to be there. It was a different times and times are always changing.

On a side note, it just had this nightmare that Zack Ryder had a 29 week vlog work for WWE to elevate him up there and it's working. I couldn't see him being any more than a super-over low-mid card guy unless he begins to prove himself. Just doesn't seem like the kind of guy that will be able to cut those promos.

with every vlog zack ryder gets less likely to hold A REAL TITLE imo

**zrdt12** · 09-09-2011, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Russo swerve

Lol stop booing cena thats a good one pee wee

Hah, I'm 19. I just think it's wrong. We tried it and we still have one, Mr. Super Cena making a run at the title again. So why keep doing it unless he actually turns heel. He might be boring b/c he only uses 5 moves but he can still work a match. And obviously, he's one of few in the WWE right now that can actually work the mic.

**helmsley** · 09-09-2011, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by HCollins-TNA1

Lets look what wrong with the WWE...
1. the continence push of John Cena and Randy Orton.
2. continuing with 1, Cena and Orton made to be super-hero like or Hulk Hogan like in their matches..
3. the World and WWE championship, really think they should be unified and one champion...
4. the burial of mid-card main event talent, not to long ago we was seeing CM Punk get buried losing several PPVs matches to Cena at EC 2011, and Randy Orton on several PPVs... .
5. the same applies to Christian, how many times you seen him lose and screwed over, other then a cheap win by DQ or such???
6. The mid card titles do they even matter now????
7. the mid card talent, Jack Swagger, Zac Ryder, Sheamus, Wade Barret, Drew McIntyre, DiBease Jr and others who have so much talent that is being wasted.....
8. the tag division, how is it suppose to prosper when the announcers bicker among their-selves and trash the stars???
9. missing mid card titles... Crusierweight/ Light Weight title, promote the Internet title to the main roster to be defended much like the TV or Hardcore title... WWE got the talent to give the belts to and promote, but why do they over look them???
10. more to come anyone else want to share their thoughts please go ahead...

FUCK YOU TNA mark!!!!, because everyone is always bitchin about tna it doesnt mean that you have to make a thread to make people bash wwe , ina ANY possible way, wwe is better than tna and that will never change

Yes, it has its problems but they are only human and we cannot expect that they satisfy every single person, unlike tna, that doesnt satisfy nobody and is just a waste of tima

**HCollins-TNA1** · 09-09-2011, 08:10 PM

As I have said several times before I'm a WRESTLING MARK...... I like it all WWE, TNA, ROH, NWA, Women, the Indys, and International and classic matches and videos and etc.......
But always been one to like or side with the underdog company.... As I do with TNA.... So in a way maybe I am a TNA MARK admitting it....

But when it comes down to it I like WRESTLING all together.... From the 1980s and 1990s when the mid card titles meant something.... the classic feuds of Dusty and Flair, Nikita and Magnum, Savage and Hogan, Savage and Steamboat, Lawler and Von Erich, Lawler and Gilbert.. when one wasn't put over so strong or put over so weak....

Do I watch WWE yes I do when not watching Kate plus 8... LOL.... But I been a TNA fan since day one of it conception and will remain one untill whenever the end of time comes..

**Iron Ape** · 09-09-2011, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by helmsley

FUCK YOU TNA mark!!!!, because everyone is always bitchin about tna it doesnt mean that you have to make a thread to make people bash wwe , ina ANY possible way, wwe is better than tna and that will never change

Yes, it has its problems but they are only human and we cannot expect that they satisfy every single person, unlike tna, that doesnt satisfy nobody and is just a waste of tima

While this thread might be a touch petty and predictable, there really isn't anything overtly wrong with it existing. Don't like it? Fine. But you're going to need to find a better way to deal with it, as the unnecessarily cursing and calling names in ALL CAPS business is not going to fly here.

Also, the sooner you realize that your own opinion isn't the only one worth having, the better off I think you'll be. Just a heads-up.

**helmsley** · 09-09-2011, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Iron Ape

While this thread might be a touch petty and predictable, there really isn't anything overtly wrong with it existing. Don't like it? Fine. But you're going to need to find a better way to deal with it, as the unnecessarily cursing and calling names in ALL CAPS business is not going to fly here.

Also, the sooner you realize that your own opinion isn't the only one worth having, the better off I think you'll be. Just a heads-up.

i dont care what everyones opinion is, that is mine and i will defend it always.

yes, i think is childish to call names and curse, but i really think this thread was a cheap shot to bash wwe after we have all bashed tna for the last 4 months, and im sorry if somebody is really offended but this kind of stupid bashin threads really piss me off

**Iron Ape** · 09-09-2011, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by helmsley

i dont care what everyones opinion is, that is mine and i will defend it always.

yes, i think is childish to call names and curse, but i really think this thread was a cheap shot to bash wwe after we have all bashed tna for the last 4 months, and im sorry if somebody is really offended but this kind of stupid bashin threads really piss me off

If you don't care about the opinions of others, might I suggest you find another outlet with which to exercise your time. We're on an internet forum, and the opinions of others are sort of the all-encompassing experience. I mean, we deal exclusively in the opinions of others here.

You may not need to agree with the perspective of others, but you DO need to respect their right to exercise their freedom to express it without taking to acting like a petulant child in response. If you should feel that another poster has egregiously violated common sense board etiquette with said perspective, then feel free to take it up with me or any one of the other mods and we'll be more than happy to try and assist you.