So let me get this straight

[BIGZrudypoo812]

Mark Henry winning was great (stop bitching), the man plays his part great and dont give me "cant cut a promo" LMAO when was the last time Randy Orton has cut a good promo??? Mark Deserved it

Now Cena Winning just Sets up Punk vs Cena III or we could see another Del Rio vs Cena idk. Triple Threat maybe.

Kelly Kelly I 100% agree she is just flat out horrible

[PureMetalftw!]

Mark Henry: I am a huge Orton fan, he is my number 2 behind punk. but i was going for henry in that match cause i thought he really deserved it. i was suprised when he beat orton cleanly even though i said he would in the prediction contest ^.^ hahaha

John cena: after he won i just lost all the excitement i had for the next match, thank god HHH and punk put on a great match and everything that happened towards the end had me on the edge of my seat

K2: horrible, everybody says that she in improving and i will agree but come on, she has been in the wwe since 2006 or something, she has had enough time to improve

[The Brown One]

They have to come up with new ways of Kelly beating Beth besides roll-ups. Shes done it the past two PPVs and its just a cheap way to win for a face. Maybe have Beth/Natayla double team on Kelly or something.
The thing that really got to me in the PPV however, was that Cena won the WWE championship AGAIN. ADR wasn't really doing much with it, and wasn't even being advertised as much as the Triple H-Punk and Henry-Orton feud, so he couldn't be taken seriously as WWE champion. Plus he looked like a pussy, trying to get out of all of his matches. Hes a great wrestler, but they just didn't book him well. But what can Cena possibly do as a champion this time? He could have gone 3, maybe 4 more months without the championship, and then won it when nearing his Wrestlemania match with The Rock. But no, they always have to put him in the fucking main event. Hes not even the company's most popular wrestler anymore. I'm sure Sin Cara and Orton merch sell more than Cenas at this point. They should seriously rethink this.

[Tribe]

I liked the PPV my only thing I wanted Beth Phoenix to win. I am disappointed Kelly Kelly still has the title.

Cena winning not happy but no surprised.

[CrowOfMurders]

I'm happy with Henry winning,however he is NOT the top big man in the WWE, and who the hell knows if he draws? I haven't seen Smackdown's ratings jump during Henry segments. Smackdown DOES need a credible,powerful heel,the sneaky,cheating heel was a good fit for christian,but it's only exciting when the heel holds the title,and the face(Orton) chases him. When the good guy keeps getting cheated out of the title by the cheater every time,you really do enjoy it when the face finally wins. They did the reverse,by putting the title on Orton and having Christian chase and it didn't work out. TBH,Smackdown needed a change,and Henry as the badass dominant heel is a great breath of fresh air and its something they havent had in a while. Although he's had a pretty limited moveset for a while, I like the Vaderbomb on the chair,I hope he holds the title til TLC so we can see him do one on a ladder, or maybe a table

Cena,ugghhh wat can be said? Somebody said something about looking at it from a booking/business perspective. How is it smart booking,or even competent booking, if you have absolutely NO credible opponents for your champ? The Cena/Rock program isn't til april,he doesn't need to hot potato the title right now,especially with Punk tied up in Nash/Punk,who the hell is a credible challenger for Cena? Not Del Rio,the one month title reign and absolutely NO buildup pretty much buried the guy. So who's #1 contender now? If it's Del Rio still,save yourself the waste of time in watching that match because either Cena wins(yay!) or Del Rio gets another meaningless title reign, and it will be meaningless mind you,because Cena will just take the title off him whenever t[he]y want. I don't care if Cena wins after a good feud,I'll love it if he wins after a great feud,but this just shows how little the WWE respects their talent. Instead of building Del Rio as a mainevent contender and Raw's top heel,he's another Cena bitch. It's funny how smackdown has a new level of legitimacy with Henry and Cena just set the raw main event scene back another couple of years. Pathetic

[The Brown One]

I'm happy with Henry winning,however he is NOT the top big man in the WWE, and who the hell knows if he draws? I haven't seen Smackdown's ratings jump during Henry segments. Smackdown DOES need a credible,powerful heel,the sneaky,cheating heel was a good fit for christian,but it's only exciting when the heel holds the title,and the face(Orton) chases him. When the good guy keeps getting cheated out of the title by the cheater every time,you really do enjoy it when the face finally wins. They did the reverse,by putting the title on Orton and having Christian chase and it didn't work out. TBH,Smackdown needed a change,and Henry as the badass dominant heel is a great breath of fresh air and its something they havent had in a while. Although he's had a pretty limited moveset for a while, I like the Vaderbomb on the chair,I hope he holds the title til TLC so we can see him do one on a ladder, or maybe a table

Cena,ugghhh wat can be said? Somebody said something about looking at it from a booking/business perspective. How is it smart booking,or even competent booking, if you have absolutely NO credible opponents for your champ? The Cena/Rock program isn't til april,he doesn't need to hot potato the title right now,especially with Punk tied up in Nash/Punk,who the hell is a credible challenger for Cena? Not Del Rio,the one month title reign and absolutely NO buildup pretty much buried the guy. So who's #1 contender now? If it's Del Rio still,save yourself the waste of time in watching that match because either Cena wins(yay!) or Del Rio gets another meaningless title reign, and it will be meaningless mind you,because Cena will just take the title off him whenever t[he]y want. I don't care if Cena wins after a good feud,I'll love it if he wins after a great feud,but this just shows how little the WWE respects their talent. Instead of building Del Rio as a mainevent contender and Raw's top heel,he's another Cena bitch. It's funny how smackdown has a new level of legitimacy with Henry and Cena just set the raw main event scene back another couple of years. Pathetic

Good point. I hear people saying that Smackdown is crap. No more crappier than Raw. Smackdown lacks the storylines that Raw has, but the wrestling is better IMO (even the Divas, and thats saying a lot), and their main event scene isn't crowded or doomed.

[Tomsta666]

Good point. I hear people saying that Smackdown is crap. No more crappier than Raw. Smackdown lacks the storylines that Raw has, but the wrestling is better IMO (even the Divas, and thats saying a lot), and their main event scene isn't crowded or doomed.

That maybe the reasoning behind the RAW super show!

[BlazersDozen]

Mark Henry's promo after he won the title was great so idk about this can't cut a promo crap. He came straight from the heart the past couple weeks in his promos that AREN'T backstage with Josh Matthews & his promo at NOC after winning the title may keep the title on him a month longer than creative planned.

As far as Cena goes, he hasn't needed the title in years. He sells without it & are just destroying the credibility of majorly talented guys on the RAW brand because nobody outside Triple H, Randy Orton, Sheamus & HBK HAVE beaten him clean in the past 4 years in singles competition. At least Randy Orton puts guys over the most he can while still pleasing creative with the ending of fueds. I loved that he allowed Henry to beat him clean at NOC. It shows how much respect he has for how loyal Mark Henry has been to the WWE & wrestling in general.

[LuckIsForLosers]

Mark Henry's promo after he won the title was great so idk about this can't cut a promo crap. He came straight from the heart the past couple weeks in his promos that AREN'T backstage with Josh Matthews & his promo at NOC after winning the title may keep the title on him a month longer than creative planned.

As far as Cena goes, he hasn't needed the title in years. He sells without it & are just destroying the credibility of majorly talented guys on the RAW brand because nobody outside Triple H, Randy Orton, Sheamus & HBK HAVE beaten him clean in the past 4 years in singles competition. At least Randy Orton puts guys over the most he can while still pleasing creative with the ending of fueds. I loved that he allowed Henry to beat him clean at NOC. It shows how much respect he has for how loyal Mark Henry has been to the WWE & wrestling in general.

Apart from the part I have put in bold on the above quote, I pretty much echo this.

Henry is not "Mr I can't cut a promo". As a face he was a buffoonish character, akin to an R-Truth-esque goofball and so didn't have opportunities for promos. His ECW title heel-run was stale and boring because of booking. Injuries before that marred any opportunities. The past few weeks have shown that, like most superstars who are good on the mic, when put in a situation and angle that KIND OF reflects his real life sentiments, he cuts a solid promo e.g. the ones since he annihilated Kane and Show and the one after the match. As for in-ring, for a big guy he is NOT bad at all. He has been solid. His demolition over the past few months has been leading up to this and necessitated a title run and this was PROVED by the fact that after he won, the crowd ERUPTED. He IS thus "over". He is a rare breed of heel that doesn't need an unclean finish to win the world title AND still be cheered/respected. And 15 years deserved this.

The KK thing was a bit of a shock. Maybe creative thought that, this being the Divas division, the residents of Buffalo NY wouldn't actually care as much as they did that Beth was from their home town and thought that they'd be more behind KK the face.

As for Cena winning, I explained my views on that on my recent "Let's go Alberto" thread. Most people hate Cena because he's so PG, so boring and "can't wrestle". I don't - I'm neither going to defend Cena with the "he's a hard worker and entertainer" or slam him with "you can't wrestle!"...the issue here isn't really about Cena, aside from the fact that it is boring seeing him as champ again. The two issues, as people have already said on this thread are:

1) What the hell are creative doing to ADR? People seem to dislike him on this forum but his promos are good, they make you want to hate him. In-ring I can't understand why certain people say he isn't impressive. Combination of quick/X-Division-ish kicks, submissions, suplexes and other moves make him better in-ring than a lot of WWE talent. And without pissing CM Punk off, he 'looks like a champ'. Creative cannot keep pushing him then burying him - it's getting irritating - either Del Rio is the next gen of talent and will be a champ/main event talent from now for the foreseeable future, or he is a mid-card talent that will wither in the mid-card/leave. They should make the decision now - he has proved himself and done the work, now his fate lies in WWE's hands.

2) It's more worrying seeing young talent being screwed over by WWE Creative. They see the need to put the belt on Cena constantly. Before someone says "it's good for business", yes, it is. But there are other alternatives for "good for business" - an example being CM Punk. In a matter of months, CM Punk has gone to being the top shirt seller in the WWE. WWE could do the same for other talented superstars. The problem is is that Cena does not really have short reigns. It is very likely he will now hold this title for MONTHS, maybe even until him v Rock at 'Mania - that's not only boring and same old, but it means that other talent, talent that NEEDS to be pushed, will not have the belt.

[Poot-Hair]

Apart from the part I have put in bold on the above quote, I pretty much echo this.

Henry is not "Mr I can't cut a promo". As a face he was a buffoonish character, akin to an R-Truth-esque goofball and so didn't have opportunities for promos. His ECW title heel-run was stale and boring because of booking. Injuries before that marred any opportunities. The past few weeks have shown that, like most superstars who are good on the mic, when put in a situation and angle that KIND OF reflects his real life sentiments, he cuts a solid promo e.g. the ones since he annihilated Kane and Show and the one after the match. As for in-ring, for a big guy he is NOT bad at all. He has been solid. His demolition over the past few months has been leading up to this and necessitated a title run and this was PROVED by the fact that after he won, the crowd ERUPTED. He IS thus "over". He is a rare breed of heel that doesn't need an unclean finish to win the world title AND still be cheered/respected. And 15 years deserved this.

The KK thing was a bit of a shock. Maybe creative thought that, this being the Divas division, the residents of Buffalo NY wouldn't actually care as much as they did that Beth was from their home town and thought that they'd be more behind KK the face.

As for Cena winning, I explained my views on that on my recent "Let's go Alberto" thread. Most people hate Cena because he's so PG, so boring and "can't wrestle". I don't - I'm neither going to defend Cena with the "he's a hard worker and entertainer" or slam him with "you can't wrestle!"...the issue here isn't really about Cena, aside from the fact that it is boring seeing him as champ again. The two issues, as people have already said on this thread are:

1) What the hell are creative doing to ADR? People seem to dislike him on this forum but his promos are good, they make you want to hate him. In-ring I can't understand why certain people say he isn't impressive. Combination of quick/X-Division-ish kicks, submissions, suplexes and other moves make him better in-ring than a lot of WWE talent. And without pissing CM Punk off, he 'looks like a champ'. Creative cannot keep pushing him then burying him - it's getting irritating - either Del Rio is the next gen of talent and will be a champ/main event talent from now for the foreseeable future, or he is a mid-card talent that will wither in the mid-card/leave. They should make the decision now - he has proved himself and done the work, now his fate lies in WWE's hands.

2) It's more worrying seeing young talent being screwed over by WWE Creative. They see the need to put the belt on Cena constantly. Before someone says "it's good for business", yes, it is. But there are other alternatives for "good for business" - an example being CM Punk. In a matter of months, CM Punk has gone to being the top shirt seller in the WWE. WWE could do the same for other talented superstars. The problem is is that Cena does not really have short reigns. It is very likely he will now hold this title for MONTHS, maybe even until him v Rock at 'Mania - that's not only boring and same old, but it means that other talent, talent that NEEDS to be pushed, will not have the belt.

^^^^This whole thing right here^^^^ I just can't help but to wonder if Cena is tired of the same old same? Maybe he wants to change and it's "not good for business right now" I mean he's fully aware of what the IWC thinks about him...hmmm