On the Seven Levels of Hate DVD chronicling his feud with Colt Cabana: It's been a labor of love for me on a lot of levels. If people aren't familiar with this I literally took every piece of the production in my own hands. I gathered the footage, did the majority of the editing and of course I was in the ring to share the experience with Colt Cabana and we were lucky to chronicle this thing from start to finish and around three years of our wrestling careers and a lot of blood, sweat and tears went into the seven levels of hate and all of it surrounding the NWA World title is something we were both proud to hold through several points of our lives and it's been a whirlwind and I'm happy that it is out so people can chronicle the DVD and check out our story.
Starting the feud and thinking if it was going to get that big to the audience: We were lucky that Colt and I knew each other for twenty years and the comrade and the chemistry we have in terms of performing that we knew we were able to perform some cool stuff, I don't think either one of us thought the series would take the tone that it did towards the end with the changes in the National Wrestling Alliance and that really allowed us to add a real instrumental layer that made it compelling and people gravitated not towards the wrestling necessarily but things behind the scenes that people were speculating about and did not know about and now it's out in the open and people can learn about it what really happened and get some really cool wrestling.
Favorite match of the seven: All of them were different and I think that's one of the things what made them appealing for the fans. For me personally, it was the I Quit match in Hopkins, Minnesota for a promotion known as Steel Domain Wrestling. We did a lot of unique stuff and one of the prevailing scenes without giving away too much is that Colt and I really did kick the crap out of each other. The third match did a lot of that and there is a lot of unique things that went well that night and it just meshed well and I look back on it and its one of those matches that everything you wanted to do came off better then you thought it would be. Everything that you didn't know that you were going to do when you got to the ring went awesome and even the mistakes that you thought you made came out better then you thought they were. It was just one of those good nights.
Pleased or disappointed that last match wasn't in the United States: I definitely think its six of one, half of a dozen in the other. Traditionally, you love to finish the feud up in front of the fans that are seeing the majority of the matches. If they check out the DVD, some of the matches were supposed to be held in Los Angeles where for the most part the feud was created and technically and politics and all the things that went into adding this sub layer of drama into this series made this an impossibility and we were lucky to take this on the road internationally to Australia and thanks to War Zone Wrestling for bailing us out. It just goes to show you that if you do things right, people aboard want to be involved with it and we were got really lucky and we were grateful for it.
How did this change you as a wrestler?: I'm not sure how to answer that. I do what I do in the ring and that hasn't changed in the 17 years but it changed me as a person. I think that entire process to put this story together, not just the conventional stuff and not just the in-ring stuff but carrying out what we wanted to do but then having to do with the real life stuff outside the ring that fans that do not have a perspective on and did not understand what was going on and will now get a glimpse of it that's what changed me as a person and just putting the movie together does not have a feel good ending and did not end the way we wanted but there is always a silver lining and when you get away from that bubble and you reflect on it, it's gratifying that six,...