​Has Victoria Been Offered A Contract To Return To WWE?


In an interview with the WNS Podcast, Lisa Marie Varon (Victoria
in WWE, Tara in TNA) spoke about the differences between WWE and TNA and if
she’s going back to WWE. Here are highlights:

On making
appearances at conventions:
“It’s a lot of fun. Absolutely. That’s
basically what I do. I have a restaurant here in Chicago and I’m here every
single night. So, it’s basically a fanfest every night anyway. I’m taking
pictures, signing autographs and talking about what I love. Watching what I love
and making new friends in my city. So, I’m super blessed at this point in my
life right now. All those bumps and bruises in the past are really paying off. I
really love doing these autograph sessions. I go way over and beyond. I don’t
want anybody to have bad experience. I like every fan or follower to have a
unique experience meeting me. I absolutely love them. It’s also a reunion for me
to see some old friends at these conventions. You try to make it a little bit of
a vacation just to like have dinner with old buddies and catch up and find out
what they’re doing in their life.”

On opening her own restaurant
in Chicago:
“It’s going well. This is our third restaurant. We had two
more and we had a custom car shop and when we first got married we had a gym so
we’re not foreign to owning our own businesses. My husband’s very stubborn and
cannot work for anybody else and he’s been a chef since he was about 15 or 16.
He’s always been with food. It’s awesome. Our menu, if you go to
thesquaredcircle.biz, and look at our menu it’s very unusual items. I named a
few things after wrestlers and we do stuffed burgers and pizza and pizza made
with duck fat. We have adult milkshakes. We do very well. We’re both
workaholics. I’m the front of the house and he’s the back of the house and it
works out very well.”

On the upcoming Sweet And Sour Larry
Sweeney Night:
“We’ve had Ring Of Honor donating some gifts to auction
off and all proceeds go to a suicide prevention organization. So, we’re excited
to be a part of it because his friend Karen, actually she’s here because it’s
indy night so she lives in Chicago, brought it to us and we jumped on it and we
reached out and said we definitely would love to be part of it. It’s pretty sad.
In wrestling, you’re supposed to be this tough person with no family problems,
you don’t really air out your dirty laundry so you kind of bottle it up a lot
and it’s important for people to know they can reach out and have someone to
talk to if they’re under such bad times. I feel very lucky since I’ve got a lot
of followers and very social media, I’m able to get the word out moreso then
what Karen can do. Everybody should take a part in this. It’s not all about
making money it’s giving back to charity and making people aware. We had an
event where Jay Lethal and Roderick Strong came in as guest waiters and we gave
the proceeds to Mick Foley’s charity. It’s a good thing.”

what it was like to be part of an elite roster of female wrestlers such as the
WWE had:
“It was quite an honor. At the time, we were very confident
in our work but we were perfectionists and before every house show and before
every TV, we were in the ring for 4hrs working with Fit Finlay, working with Arn
Anderson, and Ricky Steamboat in the ring to try and better ourselves. We didn’t
have to do it we just did it. We knew our division was growing and growing and
getting more difficult and we wanted the viewers to respect us not just as
female wrestlers but just as wrestlers period and when I look back, when I watch
it here at the restaurant because we have the Network and when I watch some old
matches and I remember afterwards, in my mind at the time I’d be like “that was
an okay match”. And when I watch it now it’s like “That was a really good
match!”. I beat myself up for two weeks after that match. We were such
perfectionists. If one thing went wrong or if something didn’t look believable
we’d dwell on it for a long, long time.”

On intergender
“When we were doing those in the past, I was all for it. I
mean working with a guy is so much easier than working with a girl because
they’re so strong and they put you in moves that you didn’t know you could put
yourself into. They really lead the match. They’re very good leaders. Eugene
works really good, Nick Dinsmore was really good at making us look good. But
now, we have indy night here and I was watching an intergender match where one
of the girls got punched in the face by a guy and I went “NO WAY!” in my
restaurant and they’re like “What? What happened?” and I go “A guy just get
punched her in the face”. So, I think I got a little brainwashed and did a PG-13
and it was a little disturbing to watch. Because, when we first started, if I
got punched in the face by a guy, I should move because they’re supposed to be a
thousand times stronger than I am. So, it is difficult for me to watch. I don’t
mind the mixed matches where it’s girl on girl and guy on guy and then teasing
the girl about to hit the guy or the guy about to hit the girl and then getting
cut off. But, I don’t want to see a girl get punched in the face by a

On a possible return to the ring or working as a trainer
at the Performance Center:
“I have heard that rumor. Everybody that’s
been coming in every night goes “I read on the internet that you’re going back”.
My phone hasn’t rang so I don’t know what you’re talking about. I have a lot to
give, a lot of knowledge to share. I think I can help a lot of the girls.
Whenever I watch some of the wrestling I text someone in the office and say
“please give her to me for a month and I’ll work with her”. I don’t hear back, I
think they think I’m joking but I never said I was retired. I think as a
wrestler you don’t say retired because you aren’t always going to show up either
back in WWE or the indy circuit so I don’t let myself get out of shape where I’m
not ready to go in the ring. I think it’s an ego and a pride thing for me. And
you think when you’re out that you can kind of let yourself go. It’s actually
the opposite. When you’re “retired” and you go backstage people are checking you
out going I wonder if she let herself go. It’s almost a little bit more pressure
to stay in the same shape as when you left. God forbid you age or your
metabolism slows down and you start enjoying the pizzas and the burgers every
single day. I think maybe for a woman it’s a little different. We still have to
take care of our face, our physique, our nails. You still have to present
yourself as that girl that you left because people will start feeling sorry for

On the most important thing she’s learned being in the
“For me, we were always walking on eggshells and always
wondering am I pretty enough, am I skinny enough, did my armdrag look good, did
people believe my match, were the fans involved. I think people think when
people think you’ve made it to WWE that there’s no more pressure. It’s opposite
now, When I go to indy shows, I wish I had the confidence level some of these
indy guys have because once you’re brought up there you’re immediately put in a
position where you need to be humble. I think what I learned is that you don’t
settle for where you’re at. You always try to perfect yourself and strive to be
better. Every match we had, we never walked away and said that was awesome.
We’ll say “wow, thank you so much that was fun. Maybe we should do this next
time”. In my day too, we were a little more snug or stiff. We laid things in a
little bit tighter so that it’s more believable. You never settle for where
you’re at. Like for me and my business, the restaurant, I’m still striving to
make it better. We’re looking to expand now and it’s incredible and life passes
you so fast.”

On her match with Trish Stratus at Survivor
Series 2002:
“It was an adrenaline rush I’ll tell you that. Her and I
beat the crap out of each other. You have your best matches with your friends
because you have a lot of trust. You put your body in their hands. And, her and
I, the rule’s “don’t say sorry”, “thank you for the match right now. I’m sorry
if I’m going to hurt you”, “Let’s give the fans a good show”. In that match, the
mirror was supposed to be the finish. I was supposed to smash the mirror up on
her head and in the match she stepped on it on a move and I didn’t realize it
until I went to grab it and I was like “oh my god, oh my god”. And I also broke
my nose in that match from that trash can and chipped a tooth. But that wasn’t
the part I was upset about. It was the mirror, I was talking to myself and the
mirror was talking back to me. But that was me, Crazy Victoria and everybody
thought Trish was better and that symbolism of the mirror smashing on her head
was ruined and we had to improvise. I grabbed the wrong fire extinguisher. It
had the pin it and I took the pin out and sprayed her and ended it with a
suplex. I would have rather had it with the mirror. That’s what my
disappointment was. When I do watch it, my heart rate races again and I feel
like I’m at Madison Square Garden and all my customers here are watching it.
Because they all request to watch that match here so I play it once a night and
I still get nervous watching it.”

On her Wrestlemania 20 match
against Molly Holly:
“I was nervous. She wanted to be the first woman
to get her head shaved in history and so she was willing to put her hair on the
line. I put my title on the line. When I was cutting her hair, I don’t know if
you noticed but you’re supposed to cut it with scissors first and the guy that
was standing next to us was actually Vince McMahon’s barber in real life. And no
one went over how to shave a head and I cut her head several times. I mean I was
nicking her skin on her head. And when I went back, I was like “oh my god, we’re
going to get into a fistfight I know it. She’s gonna beat my a**” and it wasn’t
that way and everybody was pleased with the match. Everybody was proud of us but
at the same time I still felt bad because you really don’t want to cut someone
open. Because we beat the heck out of each other during the match and now to cut
her head it was really brutal and I remember them saying we need her bald by the
time we get back and there’s no way. I asked the barber “can you help me?” and
he goes “I’m not allowed to”. “But, I can’t do it”. And I’m smiling like I’m
enjoying it but inside I’m going I don’t know how tofreakin’ shave her head. She
came out here for an appearance at my restaurant to visit and I had it playing
and she goes “I’m going to the bathroom I can’t watch this part” when she got
her head shaved. But she’s a beautiful bald, she had the face for

On her favorite person to travel with: “Oh my
god, there’s so many. There’s Candice Michelle, Torrie Wilson, Chavo
Guerrero,Carlito. Gail Kim was one of my favorites. ODB. I mean, you have to
ride with people because you’re with them 24/7. You have to drive with them and
check into hotels and the girls we share a room so you automatically form a
bond. Brooke and I never had to go out. We’d have fun in the room telling
stories and stuff like that. So, it was like yeah her and I are very tight. Even
still to this day. I did notice that people in WWE have a little bit more
stronger bond than I do with people in TNA. I think just because I was with WWE
for ten years and we were on the road four days a week. Not just the Orlando
show but we weren’t together that much. I immediately had a bond with ODB from
TNA she was one of my close friends there. That’s who I’m facing at the Texas
show. So I’m excited.”

On comparing the backstage atmosphere in
WWE to that of TNA:
“It’s completely different. I’m going to be honest
with you, there was a lot of freedom at TNA. I remember coming there and asking
“Hey what do you want out of this match”. “Oh, you just do what you do”. And I’m
like “What?” because I’m not used to that. I was always used to a little bit
more structure. There’s nothing like a production like WWE. No one is going to
be WWE, ever. Also, there were times I found out I was pay per view through
twitter and I called the office saying “Hey am I on pay per view and never got
travel and it’s been two days I don’t know what’s going on”. WWE is organized.
I’m used to organization and someone handling the PR department. Someone
handling a photo shoot. So there is a department for every single thing you do
in WWE. And if you’re lost, don’t know what’s going on, they have a department
to help you out. But I did have a good career in TNA. I had some good matches. I
want to go to TNA to face ODB and Kong so that was one of my dreams and I got to
do it. And Mickie James and I had a cage match. I had a good run there. At the
end, not so much. I didn’t feel the passion anymore. That’s the difference.”

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