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Tons Of Notes From Day 2 & 3 Of The CM Punk & Colt Cabana vs. Dr. Amann Trial – What Was Said?

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Here are some notes from day two of the trial between Dr. Chris Amann and CM Punk/Colt Cabana…

* There are several large boxes of documents scattered around the room

* Cabana arrived the earliest, by almost an hour, wearing a nice suit and was very cordial

* Dr. Amann arrived about thirty minutes early and immediately took his place at the witness stand

* Punk was the last to arrive, looking to be in good shape for him upcoming UFC fight and wearing a blue suit. Punk also seemed tired and like his right eye might have been slightly red, possibly from training

* Punk and Cabana do not exchange any words before the trial begins for the day

* Amann’s lawyer begins to question him about how Punk’s podcast appearance with Cabana affected him

* Amann says that he has been “harassed” and “ridiculed” by Punk fans on social media

* Screen shots are shown of various tweets and Instagram posts by Amann with fans making snide comments to him

* Including one where a fan called him a “Z Pak Retard” on 12/15/14

* A 12/1/14 tweet from Marissa Payne is shown featuring a fan made sign on RAW that read “Can Someone Check My Staph Infection?”

* Amann says that he recalls the sign and the night of that RAW because it was right after the podcast

* Amann says the fan made sign made him “angry and embarrassed” as well as “humiliated

* Another tweet was shown from a fan calling Amann “#DrZPak”

* Amann begins to recall the 2014 Royal Rumble

* Amann describes how a Royal Rumble match works to the jury and lets them know that the winner is scripted and pre-determined

* Amann claims he did not know who was going to the win the match, who would be eliminated or anything like that

* Amann recalls that about 29-30 minutes into the match he came to Punk’s side while Punk was laying in the ring and Amann knelt on the ground outside the ring

* Amann says that before he joined Punk he was sitting alongside Mark Yeaton (bell keeper), Timothy Gang (Audio Tech) and Justin “Roberts” Frazen (Ring Announcer)

* Photographer John Giamondo first relayed to Amann that Punk wanted to talk to him * Amann asked Punk, “What’s happening? What’s going on?”

* Punk responded, “I got rocked,” which Amann interpreted as meaning he had a head injury

* Amann claims Punk told him he was rocked by “a clothesline from Kofi,” which leads to Amann describing a clothesline to the jury

* Punk allegedly tells Amann that he was, “seeing zig zags and squiggly lines”

* Amann claims to have informed Punk of a concussion and asked him to eliminate himself from the match to which Punk replied, according to Amann, “Nah, I am just going to collect myself and get back in the match”

* Amann then approached Yeaton to ask him to inform “Gorilla” that Punk was concussed and needed to leave the ring

* Amann describes “Gorilla” as the nerve center where the show is produced

* Amann says that Punk was unwilling to listen to him * Amann didn’t have the same headset as Yeaton to talk to “Gorilla” in the back but did have an IFB so that he could hear Gorilla but not speak to them

* Yeaton then told Gorilla that Punk was concussed and needed to leave the match

* Amann heard Michael Hayes, the producer, give the order for Punk to roll out of the ring

* Amann did not talk to Punk any further in the match

* Amann did have a walkie talkie so that he could communicate with the EMTs and contacted Larry Heck the Athletic Trainer

* Amann observed the refs several times try to relay the message to Punk over a 1-2 minute period

* Punk began listening more intently that at any other point in the trial today

* Michael Hayes then gave the order for Punk to “just eliminate himself” before sending Kane out to eliminate him

* Punk never rolled out of the ring and Kane eliminated him

* Amann claims to have only prescribed antibiotics to Punk between 2012-2014 for a sinus infection

* A 1/16/14 medical report is reviewed where is says, “Phil says his shoulder has been bothering him since last Monday. No specific injury.”

* Amann’s diagnosis was that he had shoulder pain and asked for a radiologist to check him out

* Amann ordered x-rays with four views

* Amann did not prescribe antibiotics at this time

* 12/17/13 meeting with Punk is revisted where Punk sustained an in-ring elbow injury, was treated with ice and anti-inflammatory but did not prescribe antibiotics

* Another medical report is reviewed where Amann says he evaluated Punk, without a shirt on, and did not notice a cyst on his back or buttocks

* Text exchanges between Amann and Punk are shared

* 10/22/13- Punk made no reference to back lump and never brought up lump beyond this

* 12/4/13- Punk reveals he is coughing like a maniac and his ribs hurt

* Amann says any number of conditions could cause this and doesn’t recall doing anything at the time while he was awaiting lab results

* Amann states that Punk’s comments on Cabana’s podcast have not affected his job with WWE

* Amann again says he’s felt “humilated and embarrassed” since the podcast Following the Rumble match Amann says he saw Punk in the locker room, alone, here is the exchange

* Amann remembers:

Punk, “What was that bullshit?”

Amann, “I felt you had a concussion and needed out of the match.”

Punk, “Fu*k that”

Punk went on to describe symptoms including a bulging eye

* Several photos from the Rumble were shown of Punk’s back with no cyst or back bulge

* No further questions from Amann’s team and we go to break

* Cabana/Punk’s team begin cross examination

* Amann is asked about an e-mail to the “TR Team” which is an e-mail group consisting on the WWE Medical Director, Medical Assistant, Stacy Depolo, Medical Staff and Mark Carrano

* In the email Amann prescribes antibiotics for pharyngitis

* Several e-mails are shown between Amann and fellow WWE doctor Michael Samson

* Samson jokes in one e-mail that, “We’re talking to Punk about a medical dose pack but we have to let AJ think about it :)”

* This was apparently a joke about how AJ Mendez, aka AJ Lee, who was Punk’s girlfriend at the time was sitting in on medical meetings

* A text exchange is shown between Amann and Punk where Punk complains of stiff ankles and sore ribs

Punk jokes about feeling, “lovely,”

* 11/5/13 e-mail from Amann to Samson is shown stating Punk feels nauseated and has a headache

* 11/14/13- DePolo to Amann e-mail has her telling Amann that Punk has been fatigued, nauseated and vomiting for days

* 11/15/13 e-mail from Samson to DePolo and Amann says that Samson had a long talk with Punk and Punk is reporting no energy, fatigue, appetite, mild diarrhea and headaches after wrestling for three days

Punk appeared to be working matches as normal

* 11/16/13 e-mail from Samson to TR Medical says that Punk is still reporting fatigue and headaches, especially after taking “bumps”

Amann describes “bumps” as any kind of fall with some contact

* 11/17/13 e-mail from Samson to DePolo and Amann says “Punk is the same”

* 11/18/13 e-mail from Samson to Amann and Amann responds saying that Punk is having some symptoms of fatigue but physically he is okay with him being physical

Amann then debates what the word “wrestle” means in the context of what “being physical” is in WWE and that it’s not always a “match”

* 11/19/13 e-mail from Samson to Amann says Punk is the same and that he is getting and MRI for his head and bloodwork done

* Depression issues for Punk are also brought up but Amann notes they didn’t have a time or place to address them

* 11/21/13 e-mail from Samson to DePolo and Amann says Punk still has headaches and fatigue

* 11/27/13 e-mail from Samson to Amann says that Punk is suffering from lower back pain and rib contusion

* 12/1/13 e-mail from WWE trainer Larry Heck to Samson and Aman says Punk feels horrible and has been in bed for three days

* 12/2/13 text message from Punk to Amann (9:30 pm) “My head is killing me. Why do I have these headaches?”

* Amann responds with lengthy text about explaining how they will reach a diagnosis

* Punk requests antibiotics to which Amann says “Yes” and they go back and forth about where to meet up around Gorilla

* Amann denies he was meeting Punk to give him antibiotics

* 12/4/13 text exchange:

* Punk can’t sleep and he is coughing like a maniac and ribs are killing him

* Amann asks him when his flight is and if they can talk

* Punk says he can’t talk now and finds this all ridiculous before saying he wants to go to a hospital when he gets home

* Amann claims he didn’t know what the problem was but wanted to help him figure it out

Here are some notes from day three of the trial between Dr. Chris Amann and CM Punk/Colt Cabana…

* Amann arrives just before 9:05am CDT, Cabana arrives shortly after.

* Punk arrives around 9:10

* Punk and Cabana are very friendly before the trial.

Video testimony of Timothy Gaeng (recorded 4/26/2018) is played.

* Gaeng was the Audio Tech (A2) for the 2014 Royal Rumble

* Gaeng was responsible for setting up “pertinent equipment,” which would’ve been ringside during the 2014 event

* He works “televised events,” “RAW shows, SmackDown shows,” and then PPVs as well.

* Gaeng says “I was responsible for setting up the announce headsets and ringside headsets” for the 2014 Royal Rumble

* Gaeng establishes that Gorilla Position is approx. 30-40 yards from the ring. “I was in the ring announcers corner.”

* Gaeng says he was “20 feet at most” from the ring during 2014 Royal Rumble

* Gaeng was able to hear any communications from the production truck. “I was able to hear anyone talking on [ring channel]”

* Gaeng was able to speak with any A2s or his A1 [supervisor] over his audio system.

* Gaeng confirmed Punk’s participation in 2014 Rumble and was aware of an incident, though he did not see the injury occur

* Gaeng heard ring channel communications ask referee if Punk was ok. When asked, “Who was the doc?” Gaeng responded “That would be Dr. Chris Amann”

* Gaeng heard, “All I heard over the headset ‘is he hurt? Get him out of there,’” and said this likely came from Gorilla Position. Gaeng recognized the voice as Paul Levesque (HHH), “that’s the voice I remember distinctly.”

* Gaeng says he heard HHH say “If he’s hurt- Check on him if he’s hurt, get him out of there.”

* Gaeng says he heard the above more than once, but not more than 5 times.

* Gaeng can’t recall any communications about Punk after that.

* Gaeng states that Audio Techs wear a different audio device than referees. Medical Staff and Referees wear same communication device.

* Gaeng saw a ref, or possibly multiple refs, checking on Punk

* Gaeng says HHH or possible Vince McMahon said “If he’s hurt, check on him.” “It kept going on for minutes,” Gaeng said. When pressed, he estimated it lasted “several minutes.”

* Gaeng didn’t see Punk get treated by Amann, didn’t hear any conversations It is possible that Amann or other medical staff checked on Punk but Gaeng says his primary concern was his audio duties.

Video testimony of Larry E. Heck (recorded 5/22/2018)

* Heck is the SmackDown Athletic Trainer, and has been with WWE for 17 years.

* Heck is in charge of setting up the mobile training center at all SmackDown events (Sat.-Tues.)

* Heck describes the difference between RAW and SmackDown.

* Heck knew Punk as a WWE Employee, “I believe he was on SmackDown.”

* From 10/2013-1/2014 Heck helped Punk “as needed, per show” “At times, I would tape his ankles, tape his knees, stretch him.” “It would be nightly, per request.”

* Always done in arena, prior to event, in training room.

* From 10/2013-1/2014 Heck provided Punk with Hot Packs.

* Heck kept a direct treatment log, that he’d fill out day of treatment an electronically sign. These logs would then be added to Punk’s medical report and gives Heck access to previous records.

* Heck describes his services to punk (ankle taping, knee taping, lumbar stretching)

* Heck says stretching was focused on lower back and lower extremities, hips, etc.

* Heck primarily applied 12″x12″ hot packs to Punk’s bare lower back, below the beltline. Punk would go through multiple hot packs a night, often not removing them until he was “seconds” from going through the curtain.

* Heck is shown CM Punk’s entrance from the 2014 Royal Rumble and points out where the hot pack would be applied.

* From 10/2013-1/2014 Heck noticed no infection, lump, or irregularity on Punk’s lower back.

* Heck never saw Punk bring up a lump or infection to Amann, nor did he see Punk ask any other medical staff to cut out a lump or infection.

* Heck was radioed directly by Amann about Punk’s concussion during the 2014 Royal Rumble

* Heck said Amann told him Punk was “concussed.”

* Heck went to Gorilla Position, where he was five feet from HHH and Vince McMahon.

* Heck told HHH that Amann said Punk was concussed.

* Heck doesn’t remember any other conversations, other than telling Punk to “stay with the doctor.” Billy Kidman was on the radio chatter. Kidman was the one telling Punk to “stay down.”

* Heck helped Punk backstage and witnessed him cuss people out and leave.

* Heck said he and Amann tried to get punk to stay. Punk was angered that they stopped him from what he was supposed to do in the match.

* Heck confirms that anger, confusion and nausea are signs of concussion.

* Heck did not hear or witness any further communication.

* Cabana recognized a fan in the Royal Rumble video that is now a wrestler.

Video testimony of Referee John Cone (recorded 5/3/2018)

* Cone describes himself as “Essentially, an actor in the play we put on.”

* Cone was one of four referees involved in 2014 Royal Rumble

* Cone can only hear Michael Hayes and Billy Kidman over his earpiece during Royal Rumble.

* Cone can only communicate through hand signals, “Yes” is a closed fist, “No” is a shake of the head, “X” is an injury.

* Cone describes selling, said Punk was selling to the corner. First communication about Punk came after Amann had already talked with Punk at ringside.

* Cone: “Are you ok?” Punk: “I’ve got a fucking concussion.” Cone: “Stay down.”

* Cone is told “Tell Punk to stay down, we’re gonna send Kane to take him out early.”

* Cone relayed the message to Punk. Punk responds “If you make me leave this fucking match, I’ll fucking quit now.”

* Cone repeated the direction, but Punk pie-faced him. Cone describes a pie-face.

* Royal Rumble footage is shown and Cone identifies himself in the footage.

* Cone confirms that he refereed matches for CM Punk between 10/2013-1/2014

* Cone confirms that Punk wrestles shirtless.

* Cone was never made aware of, and never saw, a lump, infection or anything unusual on Punk’s lower back.

* Cone had no way to hear Amann talking with Punk or any communications afterwards.

Video testimony of Glenn Jacobs (recorded 5/2/2018) is played

* Kane identifies himself as an in-ring performer.

* Kane discusses how wrestlers will plan out a match, or in this case, a Royal Rumble elimination.

* Kane says Punk never made him aware of any lump or infection

* Kane says he cannot recall wrestling Punk between 10/2013-1/2014.

* Kane confirms he eliminated Punk “illegally” from the Royal Rumble, eliciting a chuckle from Punk in the courtroom.

* Kane says the elimination occurred as planned, though possibly earlier.

* Kane was not privy to Amann and Punk’s conversations.

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